Eroge Industry to Foreigners: “Play Your Own Games!”


The ill founded notion that by excluding foreign fans the Japanese eroge industry can somehow cut itself off from the world, and that in doing this their own industry and politicians will be somehow be discouraged from banning their works seems to be spreading; now we hear that two additional sites have joined eroge developer Minori in token displays of xenophobia.

Visual Antenna provides news on the visual novel scene, but is not involved in development, so it is not really clear what they hope to achieve with restricting non-Japanese access to their site, and their presumably facetious message to the handful of foreign barbarians visiting their site is even more puzzling:


Not a message which would likely be well received by the likes of Nintendo and Sony, nor by all the Japanese fans of western games…

New studio Yuzu Soft, responsible for EXE and a handful of other titles over the past few years, can’t even be bothered with an attempt at wit, and just gives a terse 403 to those falling foul of its GeoIP database:


You don’t have permission to access / on this server.

Of course, proxies have to contend with far more tenacious efforts at blocking access than the misdirected anger of visual novel developers, so it seems likely the only success these efforts will have is in allowing the companies to feel they are doing something, even if they are too cowardly to oppose their own politicians.

Likely it will remain the Japanese language which is the greatest impediment to international access…

Since the majority of visual novels enjoyed by international “fans” are probably pirated (although this is probably true of Japanese fans too, if we consider the very small sales totals involved in the industry), it seems unlikely the actual overseas availability of visual novels will be much affected.

The notion that foreign fans constitute a pack of parasites who do nothing to support developers whilst gleefully pirating their works, and then brazenly complain about a ban which threatens to cut off their supply of ISOs, is one of the major bones of contention amongst the admittedly frequently xenophobic Japanese fanbase.

This is perhaps not without foundation, even if the efforts of the visual novel industry to reach international markets have been rather lacklustre.

It is however another example of selective observation, as the huge Japanese P2P networks where these illicit copies circulate seem to serve as the primary source for overseas P2P networks, and it is hardly the case that there are no Japanese users of international networks…

It should of course be remembered that most eroge makers have remained silent and accessible to international users, so it remains to be seen whether these unwholesome displays of craven scapegoating will spread, or if instead the status quo will gradually reassert itself. The voices of Japanese fans are however far less circumspect.

Once again, it seems all the Japanese otaku community can think to do is blame foreigners, even when it is their own politicians, media, and even industry which is happily trampling the rights of the minority.

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    Comment by WiseRooster
    11:52 01/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    least take it easy on the little newbie but wanna get my two cents in at least

    What Happend with Equality Now finding Rapelay and setting the possible ban of eroge is pretty much Irony and a Domino Effect(fuck I dunno if that made any sense =_= )

    Course Im little pissed at The Femnist Extremist and the "supposed" righteous idotic people who abuse the fact of morals.

    hopefully I made a good first impression for first post on here.

    Comment by Metalbunny
    12:58 01/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    How the hell can i play my country's own games when we don't even have our own brand of games...
    Hell if there was ever a Filipino Game maker that rose to even national fame..

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:02 01/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Kabayan, what we can do is to encourage people from the states to go to the Philippines and make Ero...

    Oh, wait, we're a bunch of prude's aren't we?

    Nevermind! :D

    Comment by Anonymous125
    02:45 02/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    It is impossible to do one here in the Philippines, given that someone can't stand seeing their video in a popular internet video site

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:35 02/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    u talking about that recent sex tape scandal? lol We all know we've seen/done worse than that. Ppl just need to admit it.

    Comment by Role
    11:20 01/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I may not be a big fan of ero games, but I cannot possibly support the hypocritical morons of my country trying to restrict free speech, claiming it's "Protecting women". What women? You mean those pixels? Sorry, but... no. Just no.

    I never thought I'd ever find myself siding with an ero game company, but... well, this is something I just get ticked off when I see it. Leave the nerds and their 2d boobs alone. It's not like they're going to go after real women.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:39 01/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    ok, this shit is now stupid

    the answer is not coming now, not in 4 years maybe

    I know you're all crying, let's hold hands and sympathize in the common ground that we're all pretty sad and un-educated

    Comment by .
    08:21 01/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    awww come on, dont isolate yourselves from the world again.

    Comment by Leon Jr.
    08:44 01/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    That little message that said to play our own games if you want world peace is funny and at the same time....pointless.

    Regardless what adult games come from whether USA or Japan, it's still R-rated due to any blood and gore violence, sexual content, and other adults stuff. Doesn't matter if even an Japanese otaku wanted to buy adult games from America. Heck there are some people who cause controversy over some adult games here in America. And you know some groups want certain video games banned or restricted regardless of where it came from. Anyway Japan and America were already "dirty" as soon as they developed their own adult games.

    Like I said before, I'm not going to whine if they suddenly don't allow me to play their eroge games. It still messed up and it sucks, but right now until a miracle happens to lift the ban, things stay where they are for now.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:49 01/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well, people are Hypocrites everwhere.

    Violence is tolerable- after all, you need aggression and violence to play football, which is like... a fucking religion in the midwest.

    But sex, ooooh, no. That would encourage black people to raep white wimminz, wouldn't it? As if boys and girls don't already screw each other. Parents don't want to imagine their adorable kids having underaged sex. (It still happens.)

    Just look at the outrage over Grand Theft Auto Hot Coffee mod, but not so much when they have things exploding at a Michael Bay film. Ooh, that's baaaaad.

    In Japan? I dunno. Japan's crazy. Freedom of expression is overturned by Article 175 of Obscenity Laws. .... AND STILL! It's still okay to have the most depraved porn industry- but hey, it has mosaic, so it's okay! You have people walking around naked, groping on trains... It's all sexual repression I tells you!

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:06 20/01/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    no freedom of expression ?

    They are very stupid .
    Silly country .

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:42 01/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    If they do that just get someone to bring old man Matt Perry from the dead and do his thing.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:42 01/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    The guy from Friends?

    Comment by ManaYagami
    21:09 01/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    The guy who made the Japanese shit themselves on the XIX century.

    Comment by abort-retry-fail
    08:08 01/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well, it was mainly foreign feminists and Illusion's screwup that caused this.

    Well BT-fishing in season then...

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:07 20/01/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    no. they caused only more
    people turning on Hentai Manga.

    And boobs mangas .

    Comment by sifixs
    08:49 01/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    hahaha pinches japoneses que se metan sus juegos por el culero al fin alcabo estan feos.

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    Comment by Key
    10:44 01/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    don't blame the fire, blame the sparks that set it first

    Comment by Reclusoul
    09:44 01/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)




    You don’t have permission to access / on this den of cowards.


    Comment by Leon Jr.
    09:29 01/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    (I think this is my third post) Yeah, it's only focusing on the eroge genre. I just hope it doesn't effect the other games that doesn't have much of the adult stuff on it. It would suck for Japan to not make internation release of some of the games they send over to the US just because of this ban. I've been a fan of anime and manga for years. Even though I'm African American, I'm a nice guy who respects the people and the countries they live in. Man it's sad how some people act up over things when they can just come down, understand the situation, and do something about it without ranting and raging all the time. It's not like every American acts like that, yet people keep saying stuff like that because some a**hole disrespected them and they got the idea that if one is bad, then they're all bad.

    I did say in my last comment that Millions of Americans don't know about with this eroge ban issue in Japan. Only few thousand of people buy those eroge games because they liked it, plus the fact that they might be sick of some of the games they have in their own country, some of it which sucks a**.

    I'm always like playing something diffrent other than games from my own country, which is the reason why I buy some of them sometimes. I don't have to listen what some people say about me, because even though I'm American, they don't know nothing about me and my attitude, plus I make sure I type nothing disrespectful towards others that makes them think I'm just like one of the others. I know better and was raised better than that by my parents to be respectful of everybody around the world and I love and respect them for that.

    Comment by ManaYagami
    20:44 01/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    And now, I present to you, a WALL OF TEXT:

    "Even though I’m African American, I’m a nice guy who respects the people and the countries they live in." The way that you worded it, it made it look like that's a bad thing. I understand that a lot of Americans are being stigmatized because of the feminazis, but it's just like you said it, most of the people there and all over the world don't even know that there exists something like visual novels, much less that there are stupid people trying to censor it in Japan.

    Even though most of other people are ignorant about it, a person shouldn't be ashamed to buy visual novels, porn, anime, manga, whatever they like just because they are labeled in a certain way by other people. The people that the consumer cares about will certainly try to inform themselves about it, generally, by talking about it with the consumer. No one should feel afraid to express themselves against all of this bans on visual novels and, even though the feminist gave the final push that was needed, it was the Japanese government and organizations that censored themselves, so all of this protests should be directed at them in a way that they understand that the consumers of this market aren't only a group of "monstruous rapists" like the media and some politicians labeled.

    The problem in all of that is that people tend to create scapegoats that are easier to attack than the source of the problem. And until someone unites the people that insist on this pointless bickering, there won't be a way to fight for their rights. I support them on this, but it's their fight, since Japanese politicias won't care about the internet protests of a bunch of people from outside their country, even though they are from all over the world. They only care about the will of their people, especially, if they support their decisions or not and, that's a way to attack them. I hope that they will bring an end to this censorship.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:22 01/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)


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    Comment by Artefact

    You neglect the fact that, realistically speaking, the only form of political pressure on Japanese politicians which is likely to have any sustained effect is political donations from business organisations.

    Appeals are all very well, but why aren't the EOCS and company buying up LDP politicians as the gaming industry in the USA does? This is a tactic with proven effectiveness, as can be seen from the all but unassailable position that the US gaming industry now enjoys. Looking at how popular visual novels are in Japan, it is obvious they should be able to muster the funds.

    Lobbying in this manner has either been completely absent or completely ineffective, and instead the EOCS has damaged the entire visual culture industry by caving in and introducing draconian censorship, and it has flagrantly abandoned a significant portion of its members.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:26 01/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    You can't expect politicians to be as buyable as in the USA since you have a particularly shitty democratic system. Since politicians are usually financed by the state. In germany they may not even accept gifts.

    And where do you get the financial data about the EOCS from?

    It's also a fucking basic right we are speaking about. I'd be more concerned about police states at this point.

    Come on, I live in germany and we got the classification of youth porn in our legal system and internet cencorship for child porn sites recently. It's obviously publicity (And a bit of state surveillance). Because protect the children still sounds like a good phrase to gain votes. Japanese also have shame complexes.

    So yes, the western perception of morals screws japan. (Even though in a more indirect way)

    Comment by ManaYagami
    22:44 01/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Actually, it's quite easy since people like "Antonio" Kanji Inoki could buy his place as a Senator.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:04 01/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    No one fucking cares about you.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:30 02/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    went to japan, bought plenty of eroge, but not everyone can do this...

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:52 01/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    lol, look at visual antenna site.

    They changed the text to "I'm sorry. This access is not admitted."

    Comment by Drill
    15:43 01/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    God you guys stop being stupid. Of course since westerners aren't contributing a damn bit to the developer's profits its only reasonable they are pissed.

    You know what? Why don't we just start actually buying the games? I've ordered games before though 2 out of the 3 games I bought from Japan never made it here due to shipping errors, so I ended up canceling the orders. I still support the industry.

    Though now its harder is relatively harder to get imported stuff now and buying directly from the developer's site is a pain because...I CAN'T READ THE ORDER PAGES!

    Anyways, contribute a little you guys, at least financially. It's all we can do right now. Stop raging and being loud. You're only making us look worse. At least this article laminated in a clean, dry way that wasn't acting all bitchy like.

    Also why not make a few friends from 2chan or kakuchan and form an alliance of understanding. Call it, international-relationsChan, or something. For the love of God, the Japanese may be jumping to conclusions but come on, be a bit nicer.

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    Comment by GHS
    16:48 01/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I commend and agree with your efforts, but mostly likely those pleas for understanding will sadly fall on deaf ears. It's kind of like using the teachings of religion to stop wars. Sound right in theory but it just won't fly. Until one side is satisfied with bitching at each other, nothing is going to change. We have history to back that up.

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:10 20/01/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    alliance ?
    they lost WW2 .

    who want to do alliance with japan
    who are ruled by random USA policemen
    with random fake japan names ?

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    Comment by ZippyDSMlee
    13:58 01/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Why are they turning away consumers? that's money they are turning down!! They need to organize and create a steam like service for all the Egro IPs they can get their hands on!! then charge US/UK/ect a monthly fee for the service!

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    Comment by GHS
    14:07 01/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Consumers? Who? Foreigners? My. Ass. What we need is are some statistics on how many VNs foreigners buy overseas compared to domestic sales. The truth is: They. Don't. Care. I remember a while back Key was willing to sell the rights to Kanon for an English company to translate it; the price was $1,000,000. In other words their way of saying no. Besides they're waaay too mad at foreigners right now to give them any thought of compassion or understanding. It's just not worth it, and like in any business, whether it's worth it or not means everything.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:44 01/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    if your works are so precious to you, why don't you stop broadcasting them?

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    Comment by GHS
    16:40 01/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Because they make money broadcasting them. Just not from us (foreigners).

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    Comment by GHS
    20:14 02/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Haha, sorry, it's kind of hard to tell sometimes. Now that I think about it, that does remind of a certain translation debacle a while back (maybe that's what you're referencing to).

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:55 01/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I was hoping you'd get the reference...

    Comment by Gradation
    14:59 01/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Good thing I'm not that into Eroge, mostly because I can't find one that has a good story, and art.

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    Comment by GHS
    16:53 01/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    PS: Honestly, you don't know what you're missing.

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    Comment by GHS
    16:52 01/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I think you need to look a bit harder (although you really shouldn't need to). I'm quite sure there is something out there in the thousands of eroge games that will fit your tastes. Think you should give like Type-Moon or nitro+ or Key or one of those big name companies a try.

    Comment by hALOTOO
    19:45 03/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I recommend Love Fetish series,Binikunokaori and Reversible they are all animated.

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    Comment by Key
    23:42 01/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    first eroge then it will be anime don't you see the news on CNN before...

    sand boy (naruto)

    and the one in sankaku about Philippines ban ero but as the bill said anime

    soon we will see anime = ero

    okay they might and might not

    Comment by Anonymous125
    19:29 03/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Oh noes, not anime too, what are going to watch if anime are banned? T____T

    Comment by sifixs
    15:34 01/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    HAHAHA pendejos japoneses micropennis lo que necesitan es que les echen unas nuke in your fucking country micropennis

    Comment by ManaYagami
    20:17 01/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    You should learn Spanish (castellano) before trying to write something "funny".

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:00 01/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)


    Ban the foreigners, will they?

    Let's not buy anything from them, then!

    They produce crappy music anyway.

    Oh, and their Obama impersonator sucks.

    Give back Western Culture! Anime was a rip off from Betty Boop and early western animation anyway! Go back to making your Ukiyo-e using your rice paper!

    Go back to wearing Wafuku! Stop wearing T-shirts and Jeans!

    Stop sending tourists! (And we won't send you ours!)

    Japanese not allowed! Japanese need not apply!

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:16 01/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Anon above ↑
    You are fucking trolling right?

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:08 20/01/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    oh man ! calm down !

    relax, man.

    it's all fun and jokes
    until someone touches your country ?!!?!?!?

    Wake up noob !

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    Comment by LDC
    07:46 01/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    This is just sad.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:37 01/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    man, otaku are just killing themselves off, trying to prove who's best, can't we all just get along?

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:04 20/01/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    No !

    Misandry Women must burn !
    all of them .

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