The EOCS adult game censorship regulations imposed in response to feminist criticism have finally been revealed in detail, and it seems they are shockingly draconian, practically banning all pictures and text which stray from the missionary position.
Not just rape and loli are now banned; all group sex, kinkiness and anything else which might cause trouble or offence is banned, whether in pictures or text; it is difficult to characterise such a sweeping ban as anything but a complete victory for opponents of freedom of expression and sexuality.
The full list of what is now completely off limits to adult games published through traditional channels:
(Some terms do not have clear English equivalents)
Rape
Loli
Gang Rape
Assault
Brutality
“Reverse” Rape
Girl
Adultery
“Reverse” Assault
Compulsion
Gangbang
Student Council
Bestiality
Bondage
Coercion
Train Molestation
Enjo Kousai (Prostitution)
Incest
Torture
Binding
Pregnancy
Violation
Slaves
Pregnant Women
Confinement
Conception
The ban covers all pictures, text, packaging and even the names of the publishers themselves.
Euphemisms are also banned, and the list will be added to as required. It seems the only major omission is homosexuality; it is also not clear whether the ban on pregnancy and conception means games must now feature obligatory contraception…
The source is a publisher quoting the EOCS guidelines for the benefit of their own partners, so it is still not a direct announcement, but seems as close to one as can be expected. This also confirms the previous publisher misgivings that a game featuring nekomimi and consensual pregnancy would be banned under the new regulations.
Details of how this may affect publishers and retail channels are covered in the previous articles, suffice to say it seems the retail trade in such games will be undergoing a severe contraction.
With such a spectacular success in censoring so broad an array of deviancy, it seems only a matter of time before a similar assault is launched against anime and manga, to say nothing of the wider pornography industry…
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I am more confused than anything else, I don't get into a lot of the fetishes on these lists, but drawings are not real, why are they getting so worked up over something so meaningless.
They're getting up in arms about it because they're insecure with anything that they personally wouldn't do themselves, IMO.
That and they have total god-complexes going, to want to control others the way they do.
Extremist feminists need to die, it's that simple.
I agree, they sucked at being women in there own right. So they try to piss every one off by forcing people to do what they want. We should send them all to the sun with it being in disguise as a retreat for feminist convention to Hawaii.
agreed.... This ban covers many fetishes that I like!! And I'm a girl!
Is this going to end up fucking-up the upcoming "Boku no Pico" eroge, or is all shota (both boyish and femme) still protected? What about futanari? Do they even make "baachan" (granny) ero there?
The closest thing I know is a game called まままままま(yea, funny name) which you get woo your step mom's mom(I guess that makes her your step grandmother). The art is decent but the game is a piece of trash. I hope they leave the futanari alone.
- Simon Cowell of Eroge
I believe that would fall under incest though.
also: eww.
Give it a few years and all porn will be banned in japan. The triumph of the masses over free speech where no legal checks exist.
You realize porn is already banned right? They defined porn as "showing genitals".
Hence, mosaics.
It's like they are trying to kill the very culture of Japan ...ironically by Japanese too..
Meh , this is not gonna happen. Once a traditional culture would always be in the blood. If they want this to stop , they gotta burn themselves alive and make a new age for Japan.
FUCK. WE LOST.
I am just in awe of what happened...
Come to think of it. The dissolution of Studio e.go! might have been a prelude to this ban. 山本和枝 never explicitly stated why she left Studio e.go!, but since then she has made a new brand でぼの巣製作所 and distributed her game digitally. I am not sure if this bypass the ban but a lots game producers will likely follow suit, seeing Lilith and Norn have been doing that for a while. The eroge market doesn't have capacity to accommodate 30+ romance eroge each month WITHOUT loli, shoujo, and student council. A lot of eroge makers will probably go under or start making baby bottles. I hate to be right about this, but started collecting eroge was a great idea since we won't be seeing a lot of those for a while. I hope this ban is just temporary.
- Simon Cowell of Eroge
Well, at least we'll see a resurgence of Japanese torrent activity. More seeds, yay!
Why would pregnancy, conception, or Girl be banned?
That doesn't make any fucking sense.
This shit is stupid.
Who wants to make a Anti-Femnazi group?
I BAN missionary position pfft why not ? might aswell take it all away instead of all the good stuff... shitty people doing nothing for our world just making it more shitty >_< lets make a war against the people who ban loli nad reap!! we all know its a good thing to have in games and pictures... atleast some people wont reap a loli because of thoes ero games right ?
DAMN YOU FEMINISTS! WHAT DID WE EVER DO TO HAVE YOU CREATURES BORN IN THIS WORLD. THIS WORLD WOULD'VE BEEN A BETTER PLACE WITHOUT YOU SICK BITCHES!
There goes feminist cunts ruining it for everyone again. Thanks, ladies. NO SEX FOR YOU EVER! NO BABIES! You will now all become lesbians because no men will ever fuck you nasty, feminist, bitches who want nothing more than to take away our pride.
You don't want equality, you want to rule over men! admit it or I shall slaughter thee and...-deep breath- BECOME THE GOD OF THE NEW WORLD WHERE ONLY WOMEN UNDER THE AGE THIRTY-FIVE ARE ALLOWED!
Thank you, have a nice daaaaaaaaaay. :)
Pfft, they'll just have babies with men they pussy-whip. How do you think they still exist in such great numbers?
Hey, stop raging at feminists and realize that the Japanese industry did this to themselves. All the feminists did was send a few angry letters to a single eroge producer of a single game.
They didn't have to comply. But they did.
The Japanese news didn't have to blow it out of proportion, but they did. They didn't have to claim there's a ban on rape when no announcement as such had been made, but they did.
EOCS didn't have create these insane new restrictions, but they did.
Eroge producers could've stood up for themselves, but they didn't.
Don't blame the feminists - they simply started off the chain. I for one blame the Japanese themselves.
If this ban really comes to fruition, we'll probably see a lot of eroge producers move to digital distribution to bypass the ban, or they'll all drop out of the EOCS.
This is why I fucking hate my gender.
I want my eroge, damnit.
we still got tentacles?
Errm, it well falls under either "Bestiality", or "Binding", or "Confinement", or "rape", or "gang rape", or "violation", or "torture", or "brutality", or "bondage" and of course, "assault".
Will anyone care to explain what does "student council" mean?
Hey, 600+ posts. New record? :D
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- Simon Cowell of Eroge
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Guns!
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And the Napalms
And the Nukes!
I don't think the term freedom of expression really should apply to this kind of thing. It's not really expressing anything.
That said, shoujo? really? and student council? what are they trying to do here?
And seeing as this is a within company notice, doesn't that mean the real list might be longer...
Your poor understandings of freedom of expression disturbs me...
Enlighten us with how dirty drawings expresses your political, social, or *urg* religious opinions.
You really do have a poor understanding of freedom of expression. Simple answer: they don't. Nowhere is it written that every form of expression must refer to political, social or religious issues. And even if it was, a constitution that defines free expression like this would be morally wrong (Yes! I said morally!) and needs to be reformed.
Aren't they by doing this making some of the things that some people who are adults and do it by their consent illegal?
I mean some people are really into bondage, you can find that stuff all over the net. Well does banning it in an adult game seem rather silly by comparison?
i agree to this bans if the ban, in exchange, feminazis too
Nothing is worth being restricted to only having sex in the missionary position, for the sole purpose of procreation (with a 3D girl) - no fap materials allowed. All been banned.
And they banned "Shoujo", which really confuses me. Does that mean it'll be all yaoi-ero stuff from now on ?
Why Minori, why? ;A;
It's all your goddamned fault Equality Now! Now I can't get in to Minori's website. D:<
I got this when I went to minori's official site
http://www.minori.ph/
"minori official website.
This website cannot be browsed excluding Japan.
Some foreigners seem to be having an antipathy against EROGE.
Therefore, We prohibited the access from foreign countries, to defend our culture.
Sorry for you of the fan that lives in a foreign country."
I feel so sad now...
(Btw this can be bypassed with a Japanese proxy.)
- Simon Cowell of Eroge
A conspiracy by the 3D world so that the hikkis make these banned moves not in the 2D world but to the 3D world.
Perhaps the 3D was just too jealous with 2D, thus this conspiracy. :D
I feel sick. What - the - fuck?
i have nothing more to say
SO WITH THIS EROGE IS A THING OF THE PAST... NO MORE BUT A HISTORY IN PC GAMING... DOES ANYONE CARE... THOSE PEOPLE WHO TRY TO BAN EROGE ARE ALL HYPOCRYTES AND SUCH MUST BE RID FROM THE WORLD.... DAMN THEM...
The ban is there, but the actual damage is minimal (so far).
This isn't a law-based ban, so there's nothing to worry about. If EOCS really implements this, then all the eroge producers will jump ship to another ratings organization.
Still, there are concerns that there may be people who would take this as a initinative to start making the bans.. lawful.
Already there's evidence of a drastic chain-combo after a certain idiot put up rapelay on Amazon, hence starting a violent reaction. And it's not stopping now.
Call it irrational paranoia but i believe that this will ALSO affect normal anime and other fictional materials. You can see how n4kk3d faries for art is bannable in UK.
You're forgetting the power of Akiba and 2ch... if they try to impose the same policies on anime, they may find they no longer hold office.
Because the otaku will have revolted.
Also, I heard this article just hit 600 comments. Woohoo~ (inb4 b&)
"Girl"
lolwut
This means no Tsukihime remake.
No Sacchin route.
;___;
Or, you know, just cut the porn.
I expected that anyway, if they wanted the Melty Blood voice actors...
Which would mean no Sacchin H scenes... Isn't it sad ;_;?
And without porn, how are they gonna seal Roa in Ciel's ass?
They'll find a way.
I've been wondering if they wouldn't include h-scenes so that they could use the seiyuu for the remake. IMO what they should do is keep the seiyuu but just don't have them voice the h-scenes, hopefully the fans will understand.
Girl...
This makes me laugh.
So we're allowed to have men fucking each other?
Too bad I'm not even remotely attracting to yaoi...
The situation cheeses me off though. For the love of god, when did people lose their spines? Conception? Train scenes? These are perfectly acceptable! This is where being so freaking worried about being politically correct has taken us, to bowing down and kissing the asses of the nearest figure claiming to be 'objectionalized' or 'discriminated against' on the base that they have a vagina or some other bullshit excuse.
I'm all for equality and the VALID fights related to it, but this is not it. This is being a coward without a pair of balls to their name that takes the easiest route so the poowr wittle 'feminists' (as they dare call themselves) awent offwended. BAAAAAAAAAAAW I say, BAAAAAAW. Fuck the femenazis.
They almost banned all fetishes out there! or rather they did.
This is the end of the all erotic genres. Now will be this, but in the future will be anything that disturb a minority: homosexuality, preteens and also.
It is the beginning of the end of the world. Soon, we will be slaves to moralfags who can sentence us to death at any single deviant act from their definition of "normalcy".
This will be followed by a rebellion led by against the Moralfagacy. Anarchy, orgies, lolirape, guro, vore, furries, and all sorts of extreme sexual violations will follow for one century, ending with nuclear warfare over the increasingly rare virgin lolis. The world as we know it will then end, and Earth can finally begin healing from the disease known as humans.
http://zepy.momotato.com/2009/06/23/online-dl-shop-reveals-new-restrictions/
Your news look a lot like this one. Are you sure you didn't edit this out and make it look like a global ban?
What the hell? I'm female and I like to watch some of those anime ( "it seems only a matter of time before a similar assault is launched against anime and manga") and I'm pretty displeased. I mean, I like to watch bondage, rape, slave and brutality p0rn. It's just fun to watch and kind of displaying sexuality. Fuck off feminists (I'm female, for sure!), every normal man / human should know no one should treat women like that (if they don't want to (@slave for example)). :/ I hope someone could do something against it.
Okay, to bann lolirape isn't bad, but it won't decrease the pedos.
And Yaoi..lol, but you can find everything what's listed here in yaois, too. Just to inform...xDD
> bann lolirape isn't bad
You don't seem to realize that banning anything opens the door to banning other, more benign things. This is what started this mess in the first place.
I mean, who needs icky gross Freedom of Speech anyway?
How do you express your speech through cartoon depictions of child rape? Tell me. I find this interesting.
I find it interesting someone can get off on cartoon depictions of child rape. Very disturbing.
This isn't free speech. This isn't speaking your mind in a debate. This is you justifying getting off to dirty drawings of little children.
They are drawings. Free expression is not only speaking your mind in a debate, it is also being able to doodle on a piece of paper whatever you want.
It doesn't need to be justified. That's the whole point. Someone feels like it, so he/she (I bet the thought that women draw this kind of stuff too never crossed your mind) draws away. That's all there is to it. As long as you don't understand this you haven't understood what freedom of expression is.
I think these people are affiliated with christalibans~
I wonder what the 2chan reactions are...
what's going to happen is it will push all the eroge makers underground. you won't find they products in local stores but at comic markets etc. The ban is is self imposed so it'll only be slightly harder to get your content. any self respecting otaku will have no problem gettin hold of such content. The ban will get the damn feminists off their backs. After all this has died down, and the feminists have a new target, things will pick back up again.
in saying that, this is why I hate feminists. All they do is moan. You don't see them tackling the porn industry in america. Or do anything about abuse in 3rd world countries. They should learnt to fix their stupid domestic problems in their glorious america first before sticking their noses into other countries.
Stop hating on feminists FFS. Not all of them are against us at all. This group, for example, was one of the few groups who opposed the loli ban in the UK:
http://www.fiawol.demon.co.uk/FAC/
Not all Taliban are terrorists. Yes, there are even some good Taliban...
LOL no.
Try harder.
There's a difference between equalists and feminists.
The feminist movement desired equal rights for women and men. You're confusing feminists with feminazis (or just plain old extremely conservative fucktards).
Feminism fights for equality. You mean like the 1917 marches in England where women demanded the right to vote while half a million men with no right to vote lay dying in French mud. Did these women say a word demanding the right to vote for all men? Nope. Radical feminism also influences all law making, for example by pushing the 1 in 4 lie onto governments, making unfair and cruel laws against men the world over....so if there are more of these non-radical "nice" feminists who only want equality......why do you do nothing while law after law is passed in country after country taking the rights of men away? If you're so into equality, why haven't you demanded that all women be fairly represented in dangerous jobs, no you only want fair representation in high paying or glamourous jobs. No woman ever marched in protest because the mining industry or the construction industry are exclusively male. I shouldn't have to explain THIS ... the "non-radical feminist" is nothing but a myth.
Yes, what an ignorant fucktard.
Non-radical feminism (the most common form) fights for the equality of men and women.
I shouldn't even have to explain that...
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助けて;_;
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WTF? Even Gangbanging?! WTF?!
http://www.fat-pie.com/thechildthatsmeltfunny.htm
that pretty much sums up how I feel about it. Kind of a mixture of misguided and pointless banning.
What I don't get is that why hentai is assaulted as such, when if you look at the '' real '' pornographicy over the internets, there's probably atleast 2000% more of that, and it's '' real '', too !.
Needless to say, this sucks big time and I don't get why Japan is agreeing to this, this is gonna affect their sales ALOT O_o.
... in fear I await the day anime and manga will be banished.
If all anime and manga are nothing but hentai *you're using that word wrong, but I think I'll let it slide*, then is it really worth it?
Lol, come down from your high horse already.
Im not quite sure what you guys are talking about. I never said all anime is porn. What I said is that why they are banishing almost all forms of eroge, when there's much sicker stuff over the internet, and that's '' real '' porn too.
And for the last sentence, I said it as in '' In fear I am waiting for the day Anime and Manga may be banished ''. Of course, I was kinda kidding, but with all this stuff happening.. who knows what's next.
Distance is equating all anime and whatnot with porn, missing out on the fact anime and whatnot are not reliant on porn. Not every work has porn to begin with.
There is no high horse. I don't recall watching pornography during Cowboy Bebop or Fullmetal Alchemist. There is a surprising lack of pornography in GREAT works, and high amounts of it in cheap crap.
I did not claim that either. I'm saying that wanting to get rid of pornography entirely because you think only "cheap crap" has it is sitting on a high horse. Nobody forces you to watch it. It becomes perfectly apparent with your question "is it really worth it?". What is worth what? Even if anime and manga were nothing but hentai, there is no "price" you'd have to "pay" for tolerating it. Except your hurt moral feelings. But that is your personal problem, not society's.
It actually looks like there are five 'categories' of ban here, and the specific terms are probably more like guidelines. Translated list is each row, but if you line them up on that chart it looks like each column is a category.
First column is Rape, Reverse Rape, Gangbang, Train molestation. Second column is loli, shoujo, school council, enjou kosai, pregnancy, pregnant women, conception. Third one is gang rape, adultery, bestiality, incest, violation. Third one is sexual violence, reverse violence, bondage and torture. Final column is brutality, compulsion, coercion, binding, slavery and confinement.
When grouped together they make a lot more sense. Essentially, non-consensual sex acts are banned in the first column. Loli is (still) banned and they're closing the loophole that used to see loli avoid the outright ban (never stating ages, but characters obviously underdeveloped, i.e. shoujo). It doesn't matter if it's 'consensual' (Enjou Kosai), it doesn't matter if you say they must be 18 because they're in the student council (the only explanation I can see for that being in the list), being or becoming pregnant doesn't prove they're not underage.
It's hard to see much of a difference between the first and third columns. I suspect this is an abuse-of-trust catchall. Adultery is another one that seems odd in this context and I assume this is lost in translation somehow. I can't see any way you could enforce a ban on it.
Fourth column is sexual violence. Bondage in this case would probably be the more extreme and violent kind, especially given one of the other categories is torture. This is most likely a ban on the sort of extremely violent porn which would also be banned in 3D in most developed countries. Snuff, torture, beating, that sort of thing.
Final column is basically your catchall dehumanisation / coercion stuff. Forcing compliance with threats, slavery, imprisonment. The 'binding' one here could be refering to classic rope bondage, which if so is surprising considering that for better or worse Japan is kind of famous for that and in the world of 3D it's got a fair bit of cultural significance. I think it's probably more likely that what they're specifically trying to ban here is restraining to prevent the victim from being able to resist.
I get the impression that this could be a little less terrible for freedom of expression etc in Japan than it appears. I guess we'll have to wait for some official clarifications on it. How severe it turns out to be will also vary greatly depending on whether the panel reviewing the games is able to use their discretion or not. If they enforce it to the letter and so on, then they'll probably destroy the whole industry. But it could just turn out to be a minor blip that ends up cutting out the extreme fringe of the market. There's a ton of fetishes which this doesn't ban, too, so I can't see it being the absolute end of everything. At least not yet - it's a slippery slope.
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This... is completely off-topic.
Fuckin christfag...
Surely not? I call poe. Nobody's that retarded.
... This guys are just endangering themselves. Heck they should already stop going outside. Well not that their houses are a safe place to hide. They would soon feel the wrath of some rich otaku, they might already recieve a bullet to the head as we speak.
"rich" "otaku"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
"rich" meaning lots of money? yes, those exist. How do you think they keep up with their hobbies?
loli want, the others suck
Does the fact that you don't personally like them mean that it's okay to entirely ban them? If you accept other fetishes being banned and only care about your own, there will be no one left to protect yours when they come for it!
Though in this case, they banned loli already. But nonetheless, your comment makes you look like a very weak-minded person to me.
Futanari stays! :D
Oops posted too fast.
Serious now:
This is BS... Stupid feminists...
Taking away what we like.
They have no life, so they wanna ruin others lives... =/ Screw them.
EOCS have no ballz!!!!! Eroge softhouses need to learn how to fight back!!!
At this rate only the original release of Mahou Shoujo Ai 3 can be sold now.
did they just banned my reason to live? faggots
# Rape
# Loli
# Gang Rape
# Sexual violence (陵辱)
# Cruel sexual play (鬼畜)
# Reverse rape
# Shoujo
# Forbidden sex (相姦)
# Reverse sexual violence (逆陵辱)
# Forced (強要)
# Group sex (複数プレイ)
# School council (生徒会)
# Bestiality (not catgirls or vampires etc)
# Bondage
# Coercion
# Train groping (車内わいせつ)
# Enjo Kousai (wikipedia link)
# Incest
# Torture
# Bind tightly (緊縛)
# Pregnant
# Rape (強姦) (another way to refer to rape)
# Slave
# Pregnant woman
# Imprisonment
# Impregnation
I'd like to rage like everyone else here, but does anyone know how this is being taken by Japanese people (particularly 2ch)? Surely there are some individuals who would step up to the plate and begin at least a petition or something.....right?