China’s latest ploy to ensure universal acceptance of its ancient and inalienable claim to the Senkaku isles has been to take out an ad in the New York Times asking Americans how they would react to Japan inexplicably claiming Hawaii – although some have pointed out comparisons of Japan claiming Hawaii to China claiming parts of Okinawa may be rather more appropriate than intended.

In this case, a Chinese businessman and self-proclaimed “ambassador of peace” took out a half-page ad (half of which was in Chinese in case the other message was not clear enough) in the New York Times, none too subtly attempting to push the Pearl Harbor button in the feeble minds of its American readers:


How would Americans feel, and what would America do, if Japan announced that Hawaii was its territory?

A call for peace to prevent Japan’s claim on China’s Diaoyu Islands

Chen Guangbiao, citizen of China and ambassador of peace, solemnly declares to the U.S. government and the American people:

•The Diaoyu Islands have been part of China since antiquity.

•Japan’s right wing is now violating China’s territorial sovereignty and threatening the stability and security of the Asia Pacific region.

•The Diaoyu Islands dispute and Japan’s so-called move to nationalize the islands, were incited by Japan’s right wing and should be steadfastly protested.

•I call on the U.S government and people everywhere to condemn Japan’s provocative behavior.

By contrast, landing a boatload of rabid Chinese nationalists on the islands is of course entirely unprovocative, as – like Taiwan and the South China Sea – the islands are eternally sacred Chinese territory.

The practice of East Asian nationalists attempting to drag US public opinion into their corner by advertising in influential US papers itself has lately become quite common – South Korea in particular being keen on attempting to burnish its eternal victimhood with adverts condemning the evil of the Japanese, not a difficult sell to some Americans by any means.

Amongst Japanese online his efforts have met with the expected derision:

“This is pushing it a bit far.”

“Since when have we ever claimed Hawaii?”

“Nobody is saying Hawaii is Japanese territory…”

“If Japan did claim Hawaii, which has never been under any form of Japanese control, then that would be tantamount to a declaration of war. What is China trying to say here?”

“Saipan would have been a more realistic example.”

“China should return Tibet and maybe then people will take notice of it in these matters.”

“Hawaii is probably a bad example considering American used its military to invade it in the first place.”

“Maybe he just thinks Japanese think that because he knows they like Hawaii? Not that anyone does think like that.”

“Claiming Hawaii sounds more like something China would do.”

“You can tell where they will be looking in future.”

“Dragging Americans who barely know the facts about the dispute in is pretty low.”

“The guy behind the ad is the worst kind of poseur, hanging around disaster zones to make himself look heroic as he does:”


“It seems badly thought out considering it invites Americans to think Japan should be just as angry over the Senkaku islands as they would be if someone claimed Hawaii.”

“So now the Americans know how we feel, well done China.”

“So what if Japan (China) claimed Hawaii (Senkaku)?”

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    Avatar of Rene
    Comment by Rene
    02:50 02/09/2012 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Oh fuck off. This island bullshit is getting obnoxious. Japan and America are entirely different in their approach and hostility meter. If any nation were to turn to America and say "By the way we're taking this part of your territory" America would be up in arms and fully willing to blast the ever loving piss out of whoever it was. It would be War.

    Senkaku island bullshit is just two governments want to dick wave and pocket book flash. I see this ending terribly. No really, someone is going to get hurt over this bullshit and there's going to be an incident that develops into a goddamn "Shot heard round the world" crap and God help whoever decides to sit out.

    And chances are it's going to be a Chinese person getting hurt. Because they are absolutely fucking stupid in thinking it's okay to enter forbidden territory.

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    Comment by cats2
    04:06 02/09/2012 # ! Quality (+0.8)

    "Yeah that's nice China, who gives a shit. How much longer until the NFL starts again?"

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    Comment by Arthur Shaughnessy
    12:35 02/09/2012 # ! Good (+0.4)

    It starts on September 5th with one game being played then every other team playing on the following Sunday. Goooooooooo Football!!!

    Comment by Taylor
    13:11 02/09/2012 # ! Good (+0.4)

    Senkaku..hmm interesting.

    So yeah in my fantasy league I got vick as my starter, but I'm afraid he might get hurt so I also picked up RG3.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:01 02/09/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    lol moreover japan not gonna steal hawaii in anyway :P

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:09 02/09/2012 # ! Good (+0.7)

    All I know is China being a dick and greedy. Do you know what's happening to Vietnam recently?

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:17 02/09/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Well i live there so the first thing i heard is our fishermans being captured and killed by the chinese, then they took 2 of our island. It's not that i know that 2 islands belong to us or anything but it's there ever since i was born. Then there was a protest, but we got supressed as soon as we start by the government and they labelled anyone in that protest are traitors.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:45 02/09/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)


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    Comment by Epsilon
    11:28 18/09/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Poor country being bullied by China :/

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    Comment by Victor Delacroix
    14:52 03/09/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    China is not so much too greedy, but just too cowardly. And USA just don't want to get involved. Are you sure USA will help Japan without any benefit?Are you sure if there is war between CN and JP, then US army will appear in this battlefield? Already forgot the Nuclear bombs? What about Okinawa now?
    Think about it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:47 03/09/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Like China isn't big enough... They need to sort their population problems instead of just trying to dump them on islands.

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    Comment by ntbxp
    22:09 03/09/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    They want a way to go to the pacific oceans with their troops.

    If you flip the map, you will understand that Japan and Taiwan territory...or better say "maritory" is making a wall what makes impossible to put their troops to pacific oceans.

    yes, if you get those islands, you get the some dozen of kilometers of sea as your country's territory.

    and as BR I am, I don't want China on my ass.

    Comment by Anonymous

    I'm pretty sure that they also have some island disputes , no ? But VN 's navy is way too weak and USA won't openly support them so they screw anyway .

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:37 02/09/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    china should know that this kind of moral logic won't work for the US. i mean seriously? so what if it clearly belonged to China 900 yrs ago? Native Americans used to own all of North and South America but nobody's planning on returning that stolen property.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:39 06/09/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Considering Americans love to play down it's continuous war games with the Middle East to steal resouces, it wouldn't at all be surprising.

    The only difference between these ongoing resource stealing is;

    America always throws the "liberation" as a front.
    China always throws the "originally ours" as a front.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:11 02/09/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Are you sure? With all the soccer moms falling into the bradley campaign? You obviously underestimate the ignorance of American housewives.

    Comment by Anonymous

    How can you steal land when 97% of its people die of plague before the first white man lands?

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:10 02/09/2012 # ! Good (+0.6)

    What is this plague you speak of, and where are you getting this 97% from?

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:33 02/09/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Spaniards brought with them smallpox, not the Brits that actually landed on the eastern coast. I don't call anyone with Spanish heritage being refereed to as 'the white man'.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:29 02/09/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    You meant the white man bearing diseases landed and lots of the natives died.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:27 02/09/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Sup bitches?

    I'm referring to this:

    First point in the article. It references PBS and another history book. Goddamn Spaniard conquistadors on my muthafuckin' continent!

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:37 02/09/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    No, he's using a more exclusive definition of "White" separate from the darker Mediterraneans.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:02 02/09/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    You mean "when the first white man landed" don't you?

    Comment by Anonymous

    Do you know that Europeans would purposely give infected materials to the Indians. Also even though many Indians died without ever seeing a white man, there were many who did not and fought back in order to protect their land.

    In fact if i remember correctly there was the Iroquois confederacy where different tribes banded together.

    Comment by Anonymous

    This plague is smallpox, europeans brought it to the new world. After most natives died, europeans were fighting for the stolen territory.

    Comment by Anonymous

    "nobody's planning on returning that stolen property."

    LOL, just no, please don't comment if you don't anything.

    Just google some shit and you'll see that nearly all 1st world nations with some history of conflict with natives have either apologised or given concessions to native land holders.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:54 03/09/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    So native Americans owned the whole of north America and they get a few reserves, casino rights a apology and you think that makes up for it?

    Visited Plymoth plantation, and you could literally feel how screwed the Indians felt when they were telling us about their people. Im not American but man i felt out of place.

    Not being racist but there aren't many places that Europeans/Americans haven't screwed up. An apology is worth nothing when there is the imminent dissolution of an entire race. Apparently some Native Americans are now being confused with Mexicans, how do you think that feels.

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:02 05/09/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Check historical records of America....natives SOLD the land in some cases and lost battles for it in others. Both of these are and always have been perfectly legitimate ways of getting land.

    And native americans also had no qualms about wiping out other natives...check out the history of the Huron and Iroquois who basically tried to genocide eachother.

    This stuff applies all over the world....even Japan where the people we now call Japanese once took the land from the Ainu. The people we now call English were themselves conquered by the French, the Saxons, the Romans, all of whom took the island of England for themselves when they won.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:05 03/09/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    I would rather have the casino concessions anyway

    - Running Bear Shittinwoods

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:50 06/09/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    It's funny how you guys go on a rage fest when China does the same shit that America has been doing for just as long.

    But of course evil communist China isn't allowed to do what it's doing because they're communist. While super strong capitalist America is allowed because "it's for justice"...

    Really guys? There's being ignorant then there's being ignorant and double standard.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:14 04/09/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    foreigners that don't feel the brunt of the chinese territorial attacks don't know how we really feel

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    Comment by Mauvais
    21:51 07/09/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Now that you mention it, Chinese citizens have been trying pretty hard to get themselves hurt in that area. From the fishermen who rammed the coastguard, to the activists who swam through (if I recall) shark-infested water to plant their silly flag on the island. I'm beginning to wonder if someone is recruiting people to put themselves in harm's way in order to create an international incident.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:46 04/09/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Don't worry. Mitt Romney will sell Hawaii off to you Japanese people before long.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:43 02/09/2012 # ! Good (+0.8)

    China, that is so pathetic and desperate. Why is it that one of the world's oldest civilizations still acts like a spoiled child? Grow up.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:02 02/09/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Deep down we're all still children. :3

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:29 02/09/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Because the Senkaku Islands are more than a symbol, these are a strategic point, and their waters are full of hydrocarbures and fish if Im not mistaken.

    China won't be statisfied until they exploited the shit out of them.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:29 02/09/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    or explodes the shit out of them. ;)

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    Comment by Dennis S.
    01:07 03/09/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    No, it's the alleged SUPER ABUNDANT oil reserves there that China wants.

    Comment by Anonymous

    as your opinion, American have eaten very much shit.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:40 03/09/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    i'm chinese and actually a shamed that we're trying to claim territory with such crude political wisdom and tactics. The issue here really isn't, which nation this territories belong to, cuz u just can't go out and claim territory that u didn't own but the previous government did. IF anything, Taiwan a.k.a Republic of China has more rights to it then PRC in that logic. Japan was meant to give up all territory they conquered pre-WW2 after that war, which includes senkaku/diaoyudao/diaoyutai, as a promise(forgot treaty name). but that, was a setup by the US to stop japs from getting powerful.

    afterall, these borders are defined by the nations political influence, not who had the first piss on the pole. You can go infinitely backwards in time to claim any land in that kind of mentality.

    as much as we love japan here in Sankaku, let's leave all that political BS out of this. We can enjoy the pantsu, the DFC and the 2D wifu-s, or even b-day celebrations of their wifus of hardcore otakus, but lets not getting people stirred up with a bias article so you get more traffic, Artefact.

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    Comment by Mauvais
    21:55 07/09/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Don't be silly. I come here for this kind of stuff! It's entertaining and interesting. It generates meaningful discussions that pantsu just can't. Not that there's anything wrong with them.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:27 03/09/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    especially since they're fighting over 7 square kilometers of land that doesn't produce anything.

    Comment by Anonymous in order to be pathetic and desperate, countries should follow Japan's fine example of invading other countries, massacre civilians and rape tens of thousands of women? Because I'm sure it worked out last time Japan did that. And as far as their history for the younger generation is concerned, things like that NEVER happened and China made them all up.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:13 02/09/2012 # ! Good (+0.6)

    How naive are you?
    In every war, no matter where you are, no matter which troops are marching through a city. Women will get raped by enemies or friendlies. Every fucking army rapes women. That's what happens to people who know they could die the next day. They take whatever they can get, they plunder and rape not only the enemy territory but their own as well.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:55 02/09/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    wow what a collection of idiots, nobody said it was right merely that it HAPPENDS and cant be stopped. there hasnt been a single battlefield in the world where rape (literal and figurative) hasnt happened. its not right its not good but it cant be stopped.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:26 02/09/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Just because it's happening doesn't mean it's right. Just because it's wrong doesn't mean it will never happen. People, learn to read.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:40 02/09/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    To end this obviously enlightened discussion, I would just like to say...

    The people responsible for all that bullshit are either dead or in the process of dying. Its OVER! Their turn is done. This world is OURS NOW! WE'RE responsible for whatever happens in this time period.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Quality comment.

    So basically it's right to rape women in war. Regardless of which countries that's doing it.

    Well done Sancom, you never fail to amaze me.

    Comment by Anonymous

    It's scary to think some of the people that think raping is justify because of war walk the same streets as us. They are probably gonna be the first ones running around raping women, girls, and children alike as soon as a war break-out, with their logic of "because they might not live to see tomorrow".

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:47 02/09/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Chinaman detected

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:48 03/09/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Ignorant simpleton that cares for nothing but himself detected.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:21 03/09/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    DUDE! Don't drag other bad examples of country. Every country made a mistake if you look it their history. Just don't keep reusing them over and over and over whenever someone talks bad about china.

    At least with Japan they changed and it;s now history. What china is doing NOW is low and pathetic.

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