Bandai Namco Shamelessly Lied to Xbox Testers
- Categories: Games, News
- Date: Sep 21, 2009 21:05 JST
- Tags: Marketing, Namco Bandai, Ports, PS3, Tales of Vesperia, Tales Series, Xbox 360
Bandai Namco has been caught in a rather embarrassingly brazen lie to upset Tales of Vesperia beta testers, adding further to the controversy surrounding Microsoft’s efforts to secure Japanese exclusives for its console.
The Xbox 360 beta version contained a mysterious room in which a girl’s pirate hat could be found in a drawer, “with the barely legible name Pa… written on it.”
When the PS3 version was announced to have pirate loli character Patty Fleur, Xbox 360 testers quickly remembered the room and its incriminating contents.
Confronted some months ago, Namco replied “There is certainly such a scene, but it has no connection whatsoever with Patty.”
Players visiting the room in Perfect Tales of Vesperia were however greeted with this sight:
Yuri: “Hmm… So you were staying at a place like this?”
Though nobody really expects them to come clean about the pile of money they received from Microsoft in order to develop what they secretly planned as a beta version of the full PS3 release, they might at least be expected to exercise more finesse in placating the understandably irate testers…











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I'm so angry.
I don't give a SHIT !
ONLY kids would cares.
Haha! True that.
This is like a movie: foreign console company with big $ lure a Japanese game company to help them out, at first the Japanese company didn't want to betray and help out foreigners more, but $ talks, so they agreed with the deal but keep the best part to themselves, or for the other Japanese console company. A foreigner can't fully understand or imagine the loyalty and "we are Japanese" mentality can be strong. I am glad that they do that secretly and fxxk up MS, and for the Japanese owners of 360, too bad, this is a valuable lesson to them not to buy/trust a foreign game console. Buy Japanese !
Nope, it's still all about the money if you think long enough. There is no loyalty or patriotism involved there. They just want to earn more from a game that is exclusive for a good amount of time on the other console.
Partly you are true in the sense that the Japanese will still buy their own products(even if it is now made in China) so Bandai-Namco ported the game to the console that the 3rd-largest-market-for-video-games likes. Then, they earned again without putting much effort. In short, it is just a marketing decision masked by their "patriotism".
And I think the cycle will just continue. Make games (and earn from the donation) and port them to the other console to earn again (because the main target of these types of games are Japanese).
Arrrrrr...I'd like to swab her poop deck...
Honestly, I thought Karol was kind of annoying. So I'm not sure adding another tiny, obnoxious character to the mix is really a move in the right direction.
Maybe I'm way off base, but the loli pirate just seems... inexplicable and out of place to me. Now, if they had added an inexplicable, busty kunoichi character, I'd buy it again in a heartbeat.
But this? Pass.
You can bet your ass we'll NEVER see Magna Carta 2 on the PS3 after this debocle.It is also supposably a 360 exlusive in (Japan and NA at least)and only being published by Namco/Bandai, not developed by(Softmax is the developer).I seriously doubt even Namco Bandai would dare double cross MS again.
If MC2's sales are high enough in Japan (while it is plausible, I wouldn't really bet on it), you can rest assured that it'll most definitely be ported to PlayStation 3.
No smart move of Bandai Namco to fuck with MS again. Losing the right to develop for 360 and getting no more extra cash from MS, leaving them with the wii (casuals, low sales) and PS3 (no Sony support, no extra cash, massive work to develop on).
Porting Vesperia was already pretty dangerous. Are they blank or something?
So anyone knows the contact address of Bandai Namco? Maybe I could ask to produce Idolm@ster for the PS3 then (yeah, I have a xbox360 too but I'm too pissed at all the "complete" versions right now and I don't feel like importing another 360)...
You can try these:
http://www.bandainamcogames.co.jp/info/contact.php
http://www.namcobandaigames.com/company
lmfao...i was pissed of once but i dont care im over it lol
Artefact, my psychic powers tell me that you bought the 360 version of ToV day one for full price, perhaps the ToV 360 bundle. And now after getting burnt crisp by PS3 version's Patty Fleur's ultra moe moeness, you just can't stop writing on this backstabbing.
I was refering to Artefact, THE ps3-console-boy who makes this shitty "news".
Don't blame artefact because your console failed miserably in the format war.
What, you mean the PlayStation "third place in global sales" 3?
Surely, you shouldn't blame Arte for that, he's actually cheering for the underdog here. :D
+9999 Critical HITS.
Mind as well rename the site PS3Complex.
This is the exact same article has 30 ones before it. What, does japan have nothing else interesting going on? Or is he too stupid to realize companies don't give two shits about anyone, so whats the point in being loyal. It's like opening your mouth to a hot girl's asshole. It doesn't change the fact you're eating shit.
He could have announced some new releases or updates on upcoming games. Persona 3 PSP maybe. But no, of course he has to talk about vesperia again. Nothing new either, no gameplay footage, nothing. Just "LOL PS3 VERSION IS BETTER. I NEED TO JUSTIFY IT BECAUSE IT CAME OUT 2 YEARS LATER"
You know what, while Arte's way of covering the news strikes as horribly fanboyish, I still think it's a somewhat interesting tip.
... Well, that's as much "positive criticism" as I can do. So there.
i'm an x360 & ps3 fan & namco bandai & both sony and microsoft can go fuck themselves cause when all is said & done, none of these companies give a fuck about the gamers, just the money they can get their greedy slimey hands on.
fuck you microsoft.
fuck you namco.
fuck you bandai.
fuck you sony.
fuck you fanboy, for not appreciating the other platform & being narrow-minded & stupid.
fuck??? U
So, umm, does anyone remember Eternal Sonata? Also published by Namco Bandai? Originally released for the Xbox 360, then ported a year later to the PS3 with additional content?
Yeah.
Wasn't here when it all happened, did Arte make as much ruckus as with this one back then?
Nah i'm seeing a different approach here, Artefact just wanted to flame the endless war of the nerds here between ps and xbox fanboys~ you little kids, entertaining the hell out of us! pfft~
Loli are everywere O.O
let's loli dominate the world and collective mind...
4fun LOL'I'
Its about the only loli that the PS3 has. Nintendo owns the rest in its money printing machine.
I do like hearing about news for Tales game since I'm admittedly a huge Tales fan, but really, we get the point now. There are things in the PS3 version not in the 360 version - things that were probably pre-planned. I think there's been enough articles just talking about the small little differences people notice and can RAAAAGE about. At this point I would rather hear news about whether or not the PS3 port will appear outside of Japan. I keep seeing articles on the PS3 vs. 360 version, but no article on how the American ToV voice actors were called back in to do some additional likes for Artes. It's just a rumor and people might just be getting their hopes up for nothing, but at least the console fanboy bashing should be slightly less. <-Me probably getting my hopes up.
This is how PS3 fanboys make it seem like their console has more games. They keep blabbering about exclusives that they stole from the 360. It really is quite stupid.
360 got Final Fantasy 13 and MGS5. How would you like it if I posted news about that everyday to make it seem like 360 is stealing ALL of PS3's exclusives.
MGS 5? LOL! Trey 4 Life you fucking 360 weebol!
trey 4 life? wtf u think this is, youtube?
Get the fuck out.
PS3-boy: "Goog God, I can't wait any longer to play FFXIII (I mean, it was announced on 2006 for Christ's sake!), Tekken 6 and whatever it is Kojima is working on right now. It sure is great to have a PS3, fuck the 360!!"
News: "All-important system exclusives Final Fantasy XIII, Tekken 6 and Metal Gear Rising Whatever go multiplat!"
PS3-boy: "Fuck you Square Enix, fuck you Namco Bandai and fuck you Kojima, you dirty, honour-less nips!! I didn't like your crappy games anyways, go suck your dear XRoD 3shitty's American dick!!1!11 >:( >:(>:(" [goes play some random 360 shooter knockoff like Resistance]
Et cetera...
Brooklyn RAGE!
Jesus fucking hell. As if it weren't bad enough that we're getting another daily dose of games news, it's OLD news. We're aware of it all, already! Bring back the damn fap galleries and bizarre news!
I agree, and by the way shooter games aren't the reason why people play the Xbox360. What idiotic dumba** thought up that mess. Some people are not thinking straight.
gimme some news on scribblenaut!!!
+1
SCANDAL
PASSION
ALL-GIRL THREESOMES
At least one of these things makes for a day in the life at Namco Bandai!
and that is what Japan gets for buying an Xbox. Face it, nobody in Japan or Asia in that matter should ever get a XBox
Sorry but I don't want anybody dictating what should I do with my money. I'll buy whatever I want.
Are you just trolling or something, because this stupid issue with Xbox360/PS3 crap is getting 2 years too old right now.
Amazingly enough I agree with you.
Soooo seeing all the hype on this game...is this game play worthy? dont have either console but looking to get a ps3 though, since it is a sony!
If you want the ps3 tales of vesperia with all the new extras, then go ahead if you want to. Well since you're getting a ps3, it is obvious you want the game, but the ps3 isn't that much, just few more extra stuff. Regardless both versions of TOV are still good.
well i only heard of TOV awhile ago, i am mainly getting the ps3 to play movies, and for the upcoming FF13 and mgs4
I thought MGS4 was a movie?
He said he wants his PS3 to play movies three times. Lol, geddit?
microsofy need to learn not making jrpg exclusive, especially if it gains good reception of the beta version, for sure it'll come later in complete version in sony consoles. just stay with your exclusive fps shooting game, microsoft
loli FTW!
I downloaded the ps3 demo and was kinda shocked to notice the graphics are worse than the 360 version, the resolution is lower
wow, what a fucking disapointment.
see this dude
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGCL35nAfug&feature=related [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGCL35nAfug&feature=related]
1:36 = Epic ????
not really , only screen replacement
Try this
1:57 = Overkill Brother
Yeah, a COMPLETE screen
Nuff said
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH LIGHT DRAGON DESTRUCTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ¬¬
I'm too busy laughing at you guys to rage. I love Namco Tales so much.
Ok, that's it. If I see one more biased ToV News the next time I visit this page has a reader less.
First of all:
The game is still the same good game 360 users had. If the final score is 94% on the 360 or 95% on the PS3 because of a few more gimmicks doesn't make that much of a difference in my eyes!
Apart from that: (Bandai) Namco has always ported their games to Sony platforms after a while with bonus features.
It's been the same with Tales of Symphonia. New Character, New attacks, etc.
And speaking of new characters, I don't understand all the fuss about Patty in the first place. Let's be honest:
Who would want her in the party anyway? I had a hard time decideing who to take with me the way it was already and Patty is probably the most unlikeable character to pick so what's the point of haveing her?
The story has been readjusted? Is that the Sony fanboy way of saying "some lines now involve Patty"?
"The game is fully voiced now?" Because the Sony fanboys can't read? All important dialogoues were voiced on the 360 already so what's left? NPC Dialogues? I'm sure that adds a lot...
Hell if Bandai Namco hadn't made these addidtions the game would have probably sold even worse than it did on the PS3.
YES I KNOW it outsold the 360 easyly but let us think about it for a moment: The PS3 has a much bigger installed hardware base in Japan and the previous Tales of games sold up to 500.000 in the first one or two weeks which means it TANKED pretty damn hard on the PS3 for a Tales game.
And last but not least these emo news posts from butthurt PS3 fans prove that Microsofts strategy pretty much worked in my eyes. PS3 fanboys are enraged about getting the game later, many bought a 360 for the game in japan and now those who didn't jump up and down like little monkeys because they got a loli character the pedos can fap to.
Conclusion:
Stop makeing these idiotic ToV news unless you want to lose readers and prove that Microsoft had quite the success with that (temporary) exclusivity deal!
"The PS3 has a much bigger installed hardware base in Japan and the previous Tales of games sold up to 500.000 in the first one or two weeks which means it TANKED pretty damn hard on the PS3 for a Tales game."
Actually, and if VGChartz's data is to be trusted, the "Tales of" games that managed to sell 500.000 units in the first week were just a few, only Tales of Destiny 2 (PS2) reaches that amount, followed by the first Tales of Destiny (PSX), Tales of Rebirth (PS2), Tales of the Abyss (PS2), and then it goes down to the 200.000 odd units from there. Even DS titles don't go much higher than that.
Both Vesperia 360 and PS3 are way behind previous installments in terms of popularity, as well as the series in general, it seems.
Out of all that text all I could decipher was QQ
That's why the PS3 version of ToV is voiced completly. Because PS3 players obviously can't read
And again: it isn't a beta by definition, but the exact opposite.
Beta means feature-complete, but buggy. The Xbox version was not feature-complete.
SUEEEEEEEEEE THEMMMM
I FUCKING SPENT 80 DOLLARS OF A SPECIAL EDITION OF A FUCKING BETA? oh no no no no theres a problem here.
this was the gayest Tales of game anyways.
Please oh please let this be a PS3 Exclusive .
Those XBox 360 users had there game but what about us PS3 users . We need some RPG love too you know .
"Please oh please let this be a PS3 Exclusive"
port, exlusive, port, exclusive
cool story bro
people still talk about this? really?
Oh,fuck it.
press start...
Even though I have an Xbox, I'm so, so glad that I waited and thus not to have bought ToV now...
Same here, anon. Same here.
"bought"
pirate loli for PS3, pirating for 360.
Microsoft paid Namco for the development costs for ToV, correct? Wouldn't that "technically" means they weren't paying for a timed exclusive? Obviously that's what they wanted, but I don't see how this was unfair or underhanded. How is this situation any different than paying a company like Mistwalker to make exclusive games for a certain system, like putting in a commission? This is certainly within the rules of the gaming industry or any industry so.. what am I not getting here?
Actually nevermind, forgot about the convenient absence of logic when it comes to fanboy arguments.
On a side note: I hope the PS3 version comes to the US.
This is one of those times when it is actually a good idea to sue Bandai Namco, I mean, it was Microsoft money, even if the "exclusivity" was limited to a Beta.
No, it's not a good idea.
They wouldn't win, because Bandai Namco hasn't broken a law. God damn, you must be American or something to assume you can just sue someone for doing something you don't like.
I cant wait till this game releases so Sanakaku can stop posting these frequent trolling fanboy articles.
Of course they will move on to something else like SO4 now but the Tales shit is getting old.
Oh, I can almost see it. "Perfect SO4 gets exclusive usagi loli", "Perfect SO4 loses minute crotch detail due to Sony check", "Perfect SO4 runs at something like 25% less resolution than early Americanized 360 beta plus some framerate hiccups but who cares", "Perfect SO4 this", "Perfect SO4 that"... it'll be loads of fun, don't you think? Lulz
I will be referring back to this fine post in the months to come, though first I must finish unraveling the mystery of Patty's amnesia...
Experiments made by the Imperial Knights a few month before Yuri is leaving Zaphias (aka beginning of the game).
I could care less about what console the game is on. I own both consoles, and I already own this game on 360.
And I enjoyed it alot when it came out, because it is a great game.
And, after a whole year, Namco makes an even better version that I have the OPTION to buy, with LOTS of extra content. And you know what? I actually want that content.
And I don't even care what system its on. They could leave it on the PS3, they could make a DC Xbox 360 version, what ever, I don't care. I just want the new content in some way or another, to come out in North America (and I think Europe should get it too).
That's all I want, and English translation of the new content, in any form, just so I can enjoy the best version of this game that I already like. I'd be happy to pay full price just to get it.
Its too bad we have these annoying fanboys trolling each other instead of everyone using their f*cking brains and e-mailing Namco asking politely to bring over the new content.
Its also too bad that Namco most likely has no intention of bringing this new content over. So unfortunately, looks like most of us that want the new version are going to be stuck using walkthroughs off the internet because we will have no other way to play the game.
LOL i remembered that room... haha :P
Will get the PS3 version when it's released in English ;)
Seeing how much the PS3 fanboys writeing these articles keep going on about the same subject (an unsympathic loli character nobody really cares about) actually shows how well M$ strategy worked and how butthurt they are that it was released on the 360 first.
YOU DON'T FUCKING KNOW WHAT BETA MEANS
THIS IS BUSINESS AS USUAL FOR THE VIDEO GAME INDUSTRY
STICK TO SHIT YOU KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT INSTEAD OF SPAMMING BULLSHIT WITH NO PURPOSE BESIDES ANGERING IGNORANT FANBOYS
(YOU KNOW, STUFF LIKE TEACHERS RAPING THEIR STUDENTS)
I wish people would stop using Caps Lock like it's cruise control for awesome.
+1
-capslock though
Another day, another Vesperia article.
Is anyone surprised by this? Namco hates Americans, or at least their Tales Studios hates Americans. I find it to be absolutely NO shock at all that Namco would willfully produce an inferior/incomplete version of a fully planned game for an American system, then turn around and use the money that American company had given them to produce the game to "finish" it & release it on a "glorious" Japanese console once exclusivity time ran out.
I'd also like to bet that the finished PS3 version will never be released in America, just to piss off American players and preserve the integrity of their "perfect Japanese game".
Faggots.
It's the same thing they did when they "ported" Tales of Symphonia over to the PS2... they didn't even bother to license it in America.
same with Destiny II, there is no US version of Destiny II (Sequel of Destiny not US version of Eternia)
So let's face it: even though PS3 gets an enhanced/perfect Vesperia port, it's ultimately just for their "loyal Nippon fans" and not their "baka gaijin test subjects." That's just what the staff of Namco Tales Studio are: a bunch of xenophobic douchebags.
Only a problem if said players are Japanese-illiterate.
The fact that they released Ace Combat 6 exclusively on the 360 says otherwise, Anon.
Shit just got real.
Also Japanese are real cool guys they accept Microsoft money placing betas on the 360 and they don't afraid of anything.
Old joke is old.
Wow too much news about Tales of Vesperia.
well, these news are relevant to my interests.
+9000
Who likes Patty?
I do!!
I slept her everynight.
The wheel of hate is turning!
Rebel 1
ACTION!
Waiting to land on Owned (Bankrupt)
Waiting for the ASTRAL FINISH to end it all, seriously...
Placate irate testers... um, why? I mean, they're Xbox owners, they don't have a future in Elevenland so they can be ignored.
You don't have to own a 360 even, or have bought ToV to realize how shitty of a move this is.
Anyone with half a brain is at least going to be put off from buying Namco's games after this, because who knows when they'll "finish" a game more and release it for something else.
Maybe it will be a console you have, maybe it won't, but you'll still be expected to buy it again.
Yup, I'm definitely waiting for this to hit the used or bargain bin. I mean, I already waited a year for this shit, what's another?
In contrast Resonance of Fate will be a day one purchase for me. Sega may suck at business practices, but thankfully they don't give gaijins the middle finger. Cue Yakuza 3 as well.
I know this is a mind-blowing concept for you fanboys, but it's actually possible to own more than one console.
Which an irate won't do?
provided you have the money
If you can buy an Xbox 360 then you can buy a PS3 as well.
Both are expensive machines but you can buy both if you save or get to work than just fighting over which is better.