Microsoft Funds PS3 Game Development

LOL!

I love this line "‘We won’t recognise it if it’s the same as the Xbox 360 version. Make sure you put in a lot of extra stuff!’" the ff makes it good:P
makes it sound like you're greddy

thankfully both consoles support mp3's, so you can just pump up motorhead, get drunk & get on with your lifes! cheers...

Thats why 360 sucks shame FAIL

Who are whether MS is generous they suck at bribing game anyway.360 IS FAIL fuk halo never get enough of masked man? and now odst? fail

thankfully both consoles support mp3's, so you can just pump up motorhead, get drunk & get on with your life! cheers...

OP pic?
MOE flash damage?

I'm not that worried, though it feels very crazy it just happened like that

Holy shit, I'm really getting tired of these fucking PS3 vs. 360 articles.

m$ is so generous...

i think he did mention it in a previous article.

this is what should have happened to ff13.i dont some half assed game because of the 360

Now even star ocean 4 is coming to ps3, they so call exclusive games will soon be over

This also helps explain why these games end up looking/running worse on the PS3. Devs too lazy to make good use (if any) of the Cell, since it would require major rewrites of the game's code. They end up relying mainly/exclusively on the PPE and RSX, which aren't as powerful as the 360's CPU and GPU. So the games end up being just quick ports with some extras thrown in. And it isn't just 360 -> PS3 either; Virtua Fighter 5, Unreal Tournament 3, Cross Edge, etc.

One side gets the play the game a year early, and the other gets a year-late port with lots extras and performance issues (in most cases) at full price, while the original can be found for $30 or less by the time the port comes out.

We're all losers here, folks.

I say we boycott all 3rd party games that don't get a simultaneous multiplatform release.

loli <3
Patty <333

No, not really. Artefact's hiding quite a bit of facts in this post...

"He does not however mention the traces of later additions found in the Xbox code…"

...either that, or he's blind.

*quote*
360であったPS3版追加要素の痕跡は、単純に入れたかったけど間に合わなかったのが正解だろう。
わざわざカットする理由が無い。
優先度の低いモノからカットされるのだから、追加要素になったモノはカットされたモノの復活と考えるのが自然ではないだろうか。
*/quote*

Rough translation:
The traces of PS3 additional content found in 360, was most likely just simply that they wanted to put it in, but just didn't managed to make it in time.
There is just no reason for cutting it out on purpose.
To cut things(content) of low priority first, and to revive the cut content as additional content elements is just natural, isn't it?

Xbox 360 can make Add-on downloadable content for games if you can afford the points to buy the new content. Fallout 3 for example you can add new expansion which allows you to play more content which other Game Developers would proudly add more gamming content for the fans to play.

And Yet Namco Game Developers making that excuse.

Of course Sony would say that...they want more people to buy the PS3 version as well, it's helping Namco Bandai as well. ;)

ofc sony has to be complete douchebags and fucking bitch

It's over for Microsoft. No games left, just E74 errors and the Red Ring of Death. Now that the PS3 slim has been officially released and with an unstoppable lineup to boot, Sony will overcome and destroy the competition, just like they did the previous 2 generations.

PlayStation 3. It only does everything.

I don't really see why people are getting so bent outa shape about this, it's been going on for years. If a game is only exclusive for a short time it makes sense that the second version would be improved/different as the company producing it would have more time to continue developing the software.

One game that comes to mind is the first Onimusha which was a PS2 game that eventually got ported over to the Xbox as Genma Onimusha, the changes were so extensive it was basically a different game.

So in closing, this isn't the first time that this has happened nor will it be the last. After all Business is Business and developers will do whatever they need to do to turn a profit. Be it improve a port, give exclusive DLC, or drive dump trucks full of cash up to each others doors to insure an edge.

Well, if microsoft wants to pay for timed exclusives than that is what they get. It's ridiculous to think that a developer can't improve on their game to give it more value for money. To me its more irresponsible to deliver a game that you know has some problems when you can go ahead and fix them and make a better game for the customers. Heck people that own Tales of vesperia in an x box that also have a Ps3 might think of getting it also in the ps3. This breaths in new life to the game.

Yeah, and so was Enron, Haliburton, et cetera. In the end, a bribe is still a bribe, I mean at least Sony has standards...

God damn fanboyism is terrible. On a more related note, I believe this port will cause me to buy a PS3 too along with my sleek Xbox 360. And then later, a Wii.

"He goes on to pour cold water on the notion of a DLC Xbox 360 version, saying that it could take another year to convert all the development resources back onto the Xbox, making it impossible in practical terms."

I'm going to laugh if we see DLC 360 version after the PS3 release (though I doubt it), as the above excuse is pure BS.

RRoD 360 FAGS STATUS: BUTTHURT & TOLD

This is FUCKING epic lololololololol

Everyone who wanted it on the 360 already bought it. If you liked the game you liked it. Who cares if another version with some added bonuses came out over year later. Nobody will ever see me run to get Ninja Gaiden Sigma or Eternal Sonata. I have both systems too. I treat things like this like metal gear solid 3 subsistence. If you have never played it get the new version. If you have played it before stick with the original.

Tales of V. is Shit anyway the Ps3 can have it when they want HALO 3 FTW Fck Ps3

the only reason im pissed off is cause of the extra content there getting and with hearing star ocean 4 being released on ps3 im happy cuz my mate can play it but i hope with Star ocean they give xbox 360 at least the chance to download the language pack

truth be spoken!
... at least about why development for 360 is cheaper or "easier" than for the ps3.
considering how expensive it has become to develop high-profile games, it's hardly surprising how the business works. developers/publishers take any incentive they can get, and the console manufacturers butter serious money in titles that are expected to sell, so they can collect big licensing $$$ later on.
microsoft has at least recognized the potential of indie studios (you have to start somewhere, right?), while sony and nintendo still sit on their precious hardware like hawks.
the gp32 has shown well that a purely open platform isn't the best way to go, as it's difficult to get publishers port their high-profile titles without much incentive. console and game sales go hand in hand. good marketing alone can't save you the day...

Something I noticed in the bonus Mysterious Unison dungeon in Eternal Sonata, on the final floor before the dungeon boss it had two empty rooms in the Xbox 360 version while in the PS3 version they were filled with weapons for the PS3 exclusive playable Crescendo and Serenade characters. So that there is proof that they were planning on releasing on a console besides the Xbox360 from the start.

ok thats officially the stupidest most miss interpreting heading for a article i have ever seen.
now i know why bull was the first thought into my head when i saw it.
ive lost all respect for asian developers.
they have completely sold themselves down the river, they use to be about quality now all there worried about is $$$$$$$$$$.
capcom, square enix, namco bandi have all recently turned to crap.
congrats guys you have sold your soul to the devil, i hope it was worth it.
what happened to the good ol days where developers were worried about quality?
they just wanted to go down in the books of history.
now all their worried about is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
who cares if our game sucks donkey balls as long as it brings in the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
ala halo or guitar hero.

Yeah Last I remember they Do Sony IP's only

I am open to correction.

Shut the heck up man.

Other websites posting this story have posted updates, saying the blogger featured in this article never worked on ToV, he worked on Vampire Rain. Apparently, it had a similar situation, being ported from 360 to ps3 after a year, but I doubt the guy is in any position to talk about the ToV code or if DLC is possible. Not to mention his crappy vampire game has a metacritic ranking of 38, and it makes me wonder how much his experience as a shovelware maker would differ from a developer that actually made good games.

But if this is merely another troll 360 owners post, then carry on Artefact, carry on.

the only thing im pissed off about is the fact that there getting extra content other then that im happy now my friend can play it thats the same with star ocean 4 i just want the langague pack so hopefully DLC

NAMCO BANDAI removed charactors from 360 version for selling PS3 version.

Tales of Vesperia had benn released by NAMCO BANDAI one year ago on xbox 360,and was released on Playstaion3.
We have benn claiming that they removed several elements,and then,we find one of the evidence.
Look at this image:

http://www.dotup.org/uploda/www.dotup.org160606.jpg

If it were added charactors,there isn't bank holes.So it is clear to be removed.
They were planning to cause who bought 360 ver to buy PS3 version.
Maybe They regard gamars as useful machine paying money.

Just wanted to thank every XBox360 owners for beta testing, you guys make sure the game will be great, or lets say better when it's released for the PS3. We need guinea pigs to ensure quality, and I dont mind if they use Microsoft fanboys as labour rats.

Well, that sucks...

snape kills dumbledore! seriously before the game is release, there will be spoilers. and rpg strongest point is story.

Um, that guy's not actually a Namco dev, guys. He's a dev from another company talking about his own experiences.

Japanese hypocresy at it maximum level...

It's a war of the consoles. Perhaps I suggest the Wii?
(lol, sorry, but I had to).

rankaaaaaaaaa!!!!! (see OP)

He goes on to pour cold water on the notion of a DLC Xbox 360 version, saying that it could take another year to convert all the development resources back onto the Xbox, making it impossible in practical terms.

more like "We don't expect any functioning xbox 360 in the near future to still exist"

I paid 60$ for the "Beta" (which isnt really a Beta by any Software Engineering definition at all - Beta means FEATURE-COMPLETE BUT BUGGY, and this was the exact opposite of that), and didn't feel ripped off. It's still a great game. And I'd still buy the PS3 version too.

*fap fap fap*

Sucks to be you 360 faqs!

So basically, Microsoft is generous and Sony is an asshole.

Surprised really.

still waiting for a dreamcast 2

LOL now waiting for the complete version of Star Ocean 4

Thanks, RRoD 360 fags, your helpful beta testing will give us PS3 Slim owners better game and enjoyment.

Before it was "Sony funds Xbox 360 hardware development"*
Now its "Microsoft funds PS3 software development."

What goes around, comes around.

*referring to the notion that the 360's processor is based off the same IBM PowerPC architecture that was being reengineered to eventually have the feature set that was to become the Cell. Sony paid $$$ to have totally overhauled new PPC architecture from scratch; Microsoft entered in the middle of the development cycle and walked off with an "off-the-shelf" processor and pumped out their next-gen console first.

Personally, I say SCREW YOU ALL. You should have been making JRPGs for the PC in the first place. But noooo, you want us all to go buy consoles. Now that we buy consoles, you make more JRPGs for handhelds. Now you want us all to go buy handhelds. Fukken Japs and their fukken JRPGs.

lol fking idiots. MS doesn't give a shit about you and your gaming needs just look at your rehashed shit you call shooters. 8 weapons 6 online maps 1 character model with different color schemes and online. Seriously are you fking proud of that? That you get this kinda shitty treatment on a monthly basis.

If Sony's actions of telling these companies to stop being lazy and be more considerate of their consumers and give them what they deserve means being a dick move then I'm all up for it. Fk having 3 mini bosses 1 main boss 1 extra boss and 4 fking playable characters in my jrpgs. That kinda shit would get old fast.

Yet whatever everyone single 360 fanboy is too busy riding MS's cock to realize that the companies are treating you like shit as they laugh their ass off to 1m sales and above.

dick move by sony?

I wonder how they bribed/blackmailed naughty dog with uncharted 2 then.

The fact that there's more content doesn't mean it's a dick move. It's a fact that Sony's pushing for QUALITY. Something Microsoft doesn't seem to give a shit about and their loyal blind install base is willing to waggle their ass at. Just look at all the god damn rehashed fps. 8 fking weapons 6fking maps 1fking character with different color options and online. Whose the one really being the dick? The one that gives wants to make $50 a year from each consumer, releasing a defaulty product so it can shit on you forcing you to buy another one and increasing their sales numbers (until it happened so much MS got sued for it) or Sony's whose telling companies be more considerate of your installbase and aim for new heights? All MS is doing is pampering lazy developers and lazy development. In which you fking wanna be gamers are gonna continue getting the same rehashed shit over and over again. Fking idiots.

Microsoft are awesome

I paid them to suck my cock and they did

great guys

That is simply bad business done by M$. Well someone could look at it in a way saying that this made them sell more consoles in Japan (and in some other places) which is true, but considering the amount they must have given these companies to produce the game and hold its exclusivity for only a year is a market disaster, because it takes away the complete trust the consumers have in the system and the company not to mention the money. In future releases the consumers will think "why the hell am I buying the 360 version if in a year the PS3/Wii version will come with more stuff than this". Well if it was me I'd rather wait a year and get a better version than an incomplete version.

As an XBox 360 owning JRPG-loving weeaboo, I don't have a problem with this as long as some PS3 JRPG exclusives get ported the other way (and I'm looking at you anything from Atlus or NIS).

Microsoft should have known these kinds of games only sell well in Japan, where it is the only place the ps3 is a bestseller.