To Love-Ru Trace Trouble: “It’s My Mother, Honestly!”
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- Date: Sep 17, 2009 20:09 JST
- Tags: Artists, Food, Hokkaido, Illustration, Marketing, Moe, Plagiarism, To Love-Ru
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Commence massive fappage!!
BOOM HEADSHOT!!
Massive fappage... except for maybe not rly.
Dick Slap
Seaweed rug burns!
Dem guys have sharp eyes...
i dunno about you guys but these drawings look no where near similar to to-love-ru
>it was my mother
BEST EXCUSE EVER
Lame@$$ excuse evar.
Indeed, try using this excuse when you're a teacher who raped and indecently assaulted as many as 27 female students, that would be pretty awesome.
An Australian sportsman claimed that his mother gave him the contraband drugs...
Frued needs to have a talk with that artist
delicious
howver
HOW THE HELL CAN THEY SPOT THIS? Do they have some sort of humansupercomputer on the disguise of 2ch?
Veda browses 2ch
nekkid innovator
2ch has juiz.
Yeah, seriously.
And why would you copy from the same source for all your images anyway?
He made no attempt to cover it up either. There's little to no change aside from clothing.
hence trancing/plagiarism.
2ch worked under FBI
Nah, they worked for illuminati
2chan IS illuminati.
*fixed*
I have the same question. Spotting this things actually seems impossible to me.
On the other hand if you see an anime over 100 times and read a manga 200 times maybe you will be able to actually see any similarity anywhere.
There is a high possibility that few of 2ch denizens are very skilled programmers. So, it's possible to write a program that would search all the pictures it finds on the net and finds a duplicates. You see what I did there?
No it is not possible for 1 or 2 programmers to write such a complex program.
Image analysis and matching is very complex, and needs very large sophisticated programs.
Please do not repeat this silly suggestion any more.
iqdb does pretty well, although a lot of it works with color matching between images
The entirety of 2ch is a brain in a jar, hooked up to a supercomputer.
A Buso Renkin reference, or a Gurren Lagann reference?
How bout THEY SAVED HITLER'S BRAIN!
Kara no Kyoukai perhaps?
Moe Noodles... Smoke Weed. Seriously, leave Mio and her blue panties alone cuz she is not a slut! Free loli love for all men. Peace.
what
Cool story bro.
That's possibly the MOEsome-est avatar you ever used, Obsidian...
I find it amusing that you take notice of who I am, or the changes that I do.
Heh.
Seems like i can draw a conclussion from these kind of articles;
Some artists in Pixiv trace other artworks..
Some "ARTISTS" in Deviantart steal other artworks..
I don't call those pussies artist, being afraid of not being able to draw something decent or good, resorting to tracing/stealing art/hoping to be praised. These are the people who don't put their heart into their drawings.
Oh wow, I trace manga all the time, as well as real photos, just to get the postures right.
'Course, like the artist mentioned, I make sure to change the face, hair, and clothes.
Dammit, what I'm doing is plagiarism then, and should I get popular, maybe I will incur the wrath of 2ch as well.
I'll be willing to dare them to identify the source of the drawings traced from real life photos though (i.e. the ones offered on free photo sites).
2ch wants YOU to draw original stuff, OR THEY WILL HUNT YOU DOWN LIKE A DOG.
Please tell me you're joking.
YOUR A JOKE!
...
MAKE ME LAUGH!
Yeah, what's wrong with tracing something to begin with? There's a finite number of postures anyway so it's bound to happen, that chars have the same pose as others. Maybe he should have left a leg or an arm away, making the char disabeld/moe.
I agree that there are infinite amounts of poses that have already been drawn, but no one draws the same exact line, that's where styles comes in to distinguish the way they draw. Tracing gives you confidence as an artist, but if your not willing to go through the frustration, concept, failure of drawing, then tracing will be your limit as an artist.
Exactly. If you have to trace to get a posture right, you simply can't draw. Anime characters are extremely easy to copy if you tinker a bit with a pencil, but understanding how warped human proportions can give birth to idealized characters is something else.
Nowadays it's not rare to see kids who can't even copy by freehand claim to be artists thanks to tracing software...luckily this doesn't stop their art from being mediocre, regardless of how good they can color/edit the base lineart.
Knowing to draw the human body in any position from any perspective takes skill, and gives you almost limitless options with your art. Unless you're going to be a shoujo artist, only knowing how to trace is going to severely limit your art, especially when you're confronted with a position/perspective you can't find a reference of.
Make your own 3D renders. That's why I do. A "virtual" model!
And because it's your own, no one else will ever know ... plus, if you're like me and have been drawing for 10 years, you know exactly where and what to clean up. It's amazing.
I start with a "thumbnail" sketch, then a rough, I pop open Cinema4D and basic humanoid, move it around, hit render and use that to help with errors.
Tracing and photo-referencing are two different things.
Tracing for practice and tracing for works for class, products, projects especially those that will earn you money are also two different things.
Plagiarism occurs when you misappropriate someone's authored work as your own. Merely tracing a picture doesn't make it plagiarism. Attributing yourself as the original artist of your trace is plagiarism.
These particular comparisons are way too weak to fire the guy over. Then again Japan is probably overflowing with artists that they can play along with these witch hunts.
why is it always TO-Love-Ru? I really enjoy his work, but tracing and calling it your own is really pathetic.
:O those bastards!
2ch sucks!
Cry more, tracer.
2ch are fucking thugs.
they live the thug life
hand pose and face seem a little different in the last pic comparison and other just pose of the hands.
Does kinda look like to-love ru but not totaly damnit.
So now people can't draw similiar poses anymore?
I mean wtf.
because things like the legs, hips, tilt of spine, and chin all lining up with another image means nothing, right?
What's sadder is that he traced the anime art instead of the superior manga.
Looks like his mama raised him with low standards.
Mm! Pass the konbu, please.
these 2ch fellows really need to get a life
I mean c'mon, is tracing stuff like this their hobby? Or are they just bored? Either way, they need to get a life in my opinion
Delicious Nori. You must eat it!
See Katteni Kaizo Chapter 17. ;-)
i wish i could. where can i seee it??
Seems like i can somewhat draw a conclussion from these kind of articles;
Some artists in Pixiv trace other artworks..
Some "ARTISTS" in Deviantart steals other artworks..
no wonder other country copy from japan, they even copy them selfs, lol
Fuck it,any anime can hav the same pose in the picture as long as the models doesnt resemble each other,i dun consider it plagiarism. The model pose of the seaweed packing and to-love-ru dun even resemble each other,its only the positioning thats almost the same and u call it plagiarism???!! Wtf then like that if any two paintings have the same object positioning by chance but different theme,them u can go around sueing ppl lah??!!!
Typical Chinese complaining about their right to plagiarize.
yep
Pretty sure he's either Malaysian or Singaporean..
Ya,some damm fucking NEET otakus with nothing better to do than to sabotage other ppl's rights.
Yeah. The right to plagiarize.
Now if someone could put the collective power of 20,000 NEETs to good use.
So I don't get it...what's so "bad" about copyright infringement anyways??
cash and lawsuit and loss of credibility
really i think the only thing "bad" about tracing is the copyright infringement. like that urasora guy, as a collage artist he was excellent...
dont feed the trolls
I don't mean what's so bad about being caught infringing on copyright....
I mean what's so bad about a little bit of plagiarism anyways...
I mean, c'mon, FUCKING DISNEY plagiarizes and DENIES it too!!
Compare....Osamu Tezuka's "Kimba the White Lion" vs. Disney's "Lion King"
Exact same storyline, completely identical main character, with the exception that Kimba is a white colored lion and Disney's Simba is a normal lion...
Of course, if anyone so much as make a work RESEMBLE a disney licensed characters, they'll send their lawyers to rape you...
What I'm saying is...is copyright infringement really that bad of a thing?? fucking Disney does it, and no one is accusing them of it.
ok, what if you spent years and thousands of dollars, and putting yourself through all the stress to make some great work, and some asshole comes along and steals it from you and claims it as your own? That wouldnt be fair would it? Them profiting off all your hard work. Itd make you angry right? Youd feel you deserve compensation right?
As an artist, and a writer myself, copyright infringement is the worst possible thing that can happen to your work. Trust me, if you were an artist or a writer, youd understand.
Douchebags like Disnet happen to be a world renowned company with billions of dollars at their disposal, hence why then can by pass these laws because they can afford the lawyers that will come and rape you up the ass
Just because Disney does it and gets away with it doesn't suddenly make it right.
Infringing copyright disrespects the voice of the original creators, as well as sometimes takes revenue away from them for the sake of someone else's undeserved profit.
there's a difference between accusing and having legal action taken
yes, people did accuse them of it
no, no one sued them over it. why? like someone said, lawyers and enough money to make it go away or drag it out in court forever
it is speculated that the movie was originally supposed to be a remake of kimba but they were ultimately unable to acquire the rights to it and had foolishly begun production before securing the rights after someone along the line had assumed that it would not be an issue and that the rights were guaranteed. they have likely learned their lesson as it is embarrassing no matter how much money they may have earned.
just because disney "got away with it" does not mean it is okay
"things are not always so cut and dried as with konbu…"
Clever.
I am glad someone finally noticed that.
I would like to see pics of his mother.
i guess this is what you do when you have no life.
soooooo
japan will also be like us
full of sue
I HATE TRACORS!!
TO love-ru FTW :)!!!!!!!