Darwin Film “Too Much” for Americans
- Categories: International, News
- Date: Sep 14, 2009 10:34 JST
- Tags: 2ch, Censorship, Christianity, Movies, Religion, Science, Superstition, USA
A recent movie celebrating the 200th anniversary of Charles Darwin’s birth has ignited a storm of criticism in the superstitiously minded US, with creationists denouncing the movie, reversing the balance of opinion seen in other developed countries.
So much so that the producer has opted not to even bother releasing it in the USA, saying Americans are “not ready” for such a work.
Though American attitudes to evolution are nothing new, the all but universally scathing reaction of Japanese online is interesting to behold, particularly considering the Japan is hardly free from superstition itself.
2ch holds forth on the subject unsparingly:
“Americans are just too stupid.”
“There are no gods. Gods and demons are just the products of the fevered imaginations of men.”
“That the US, so full of idiots, can maintain a scientific and technological lead is the real mystery here…”
“America is really a cult nation.”
“They don’t really believe this, do they?”
“Those intelligent design guys. They got teaching evolution banned in some schools y’know.”
“Nice joke!”
“God didn’t make man, man made god.”
“It’s the 21st century and these idiot Christians still believe these fairytales. How long will they keep believing this rubbish…”
“Truly the land of the free.”
“What is the US, some kind of huge kindergarten?”
“I use to believe in evolution but lately I feel it might be plausible that aliens made man.”
“So who made the aliens?”
“>Only 39% believe in evolution.
What kind of idiots are they… God made it all – ridiculous.”
“But some Japanese do believe in an afterlife.”
“Americans love massacres so it’s fitting they are all Christians.”
“There are idiots in Japan who believe in spirits too, so we’re really in no position to laugh at these fools.”
“And these idiots make a fuss over a few whales…”
“This is just the protestant right making a fuss. Most Americans don’t even know what evolution is.”
“This is a matter of faith. God is necessary to maintain American society. Pure reason can’t maintain a human society. Religion is necessary to reassure people in the face of all the crime and death.”
“Saying ‘Are there really people in the US who actually believe God made man?’ to an American might be a bit dangerous…”
“What can we say about America…”
“You should put up one for blood type fortune telling too…”
The same sort of thing goes on over the thousands upon thousands of posts spawned in response to this news.
Via Itai News.
This is why America is the greatest nation on earth. We're the only one that believes such things while the heathens believe in godless reasoning.
So true man so true, i personally believe in God and science, how cause god is a scientists. Honestly i would like to see and idiot make the universe.
However whether u believe in God or don't u need to accept the fact that just the idea of god has acted as a great support for those in times of trial, just look at religious numbers during ww1 and ww2.
i hope god is not a scentist because to a scentist perfection is despair and if god is perfection the god is despair and if god is despair then we are all screwed
also i believe god is an alchemist
For those who ARE serious LOL you guys realize that according to the chart and your reasoning, Turkey would technically be the greatest nation in the world LOL.
Failsauce.
Does Artefact read Japanese? Theres no English on 2chan.
hmmm...sounds plausible "God is despair". Oh and yes we are all screwed.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God.
All hail Epicurus, bringer of undeniable proof that there is no God.
I think the general truth is that God is flawed. I hate when people quote Epicurus, this little quotation is the same as some kid asking "If God exists why do bad things happen?" The only way to prevent evil is to control every action of every human, taking away your free will. Besides, humans are too stupid and flawed to handle any godly intervention anyway. We fail and God was the first to notice so he said "Screw it, we'll just wait for the apocalypse and pick up whoever's praying at the time."
"wait" for apocalypse?
If he truly is God then he would start the apocalypse ( if any ) on whim.
"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God.
All hail Epicurus, bringer of undeniable proof that there is no God."
As logical as that arguement is, it is no proof. There is NO proof that can be brought against God, because he is omnipotent. Omnipotentency is one of the most illogical things out there, it's beyond logical comprehension. God can make a boulder so big that not even he could lift it, and he could lift it.
Using logic on such an illogical institution is like trying to make water wetter, it's impossible and stupid.
That's why Christianity was designed the way it was, it's impossible to *really* refute it.
No, no, no. The world was made by the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
Infidels, Oyashiro-sama is the only true. GENUFLECT!
We can only hope the Segata Sanshiro, Brue Lee and Chuck Norris unite forces to vanquish the 4 knights.
We should call Jack Bauer to interrogate God about his goals and reasons.
He'd get God to talk all right.
The great thing is that ALL YOU HEATHENS WILL BURN IN HELL. There you can talk evolution with Darwin, Judas, Muhammed and the rest of the worlds godless scum.
NICE TRY, you christian-fag.
And FYI, there's no such thing as hell.
That's why Christianity was designed the way it was, it's impossible to *really* refute it.
christianity the perfect religion
and i am a christian just not a die hard christian besides if god had prevented evil and every one is good and on the same level isnt that communism
I'm sure every other religion out there will say that you are also an EVIL BLASPHEMING GODLESS SCUM too Narcissist.
I personally believe that God created a world which has an answer to all of man's ills. And then made it a world of hardship. And then throw men into it, to see if they have the brains to go digging around for solutions instead of blaming him or blaming the devil or some crap.
The world is a Purgatory and life is a trial!
Ugh, Religion sickens me. People who believe in religion sicken me. Religion is just a way to control all you feeble minded people with fear. It's ridiculous to think that some people still think that America is a christian nation. It's no wonder the whole world thinks Americans are stupid.
@Narcissist
You realize that Judas is a hero right? Without Judas, Jesus never would have been crucified and no one's sins would be forgiven. When Christians demonize Judas, it shows their ignorance. The story of Judas also shows how if God exists then there is no free will, since he was destined to betray Christ. It's all bullshit.
People who believe with complete, self-indulgent conviction that God does not exist are absolute tools.
Same goes with people who blindly believe that God exists.
You cannot really know, ya dumb fucks. Get that in your dim heads.
Apocalypse can't come too soon... this world's screwed over and we all know it.
God is dead, didn't Nietzsche told you?
fuck Nietzsche
And yet I can argu back by saying that without religons, there would be no jewish people, and hitler would never have gone on his jewish killing spree.
Therefore saving many more lives than any religion has ever managed by just existing.
FK YOU, YOU JEW GO BACK TO MILKING COWS
What is all this?!?! I want more Loli news. -_-'''
This is why we can't have nice things...
you do realize that Jews are an ethnic group, right? Religion didn't really have anything to do with it. Either that or he just realty thought he'd look stupid in a yamica so he decided to wipe them out.
Also... God let it happen.
Religion has killed millions of people because it gives a reason for people to kill people. It is the cause of many of the wars that have happened. Religion has also been setting back our cultural and technological advancement. If the catholic church never controlled Europe during the middle ages then WW1 and WW2 wouldn't have happened and the problems in the middle east wouldn't have happened. Other then that a very large amount of people have been killed for no reason due to religious persecution.
Jews are not an ethnic group.
"Honestly i would like to see and idiot make the universe."
I would like to see an ethical being make the world we live in and the fucking people who inhabit it.
Dat'll be an EVILution...
The idea of god also acted as a great support in the largest crimes in world history, mass murdering, prosecution, and discrimination.
+1
yah, and in all of those cases, the people doing these acts where acting based on a horribly twisted view of the bible.
they truly believed what they were doing were the works of god. how would you know that the view of the bible you believe in at the moment is not the false one?
Mother Theresa also believed what she was doing was God's work too. It goes both ways.
You do realize the first poster was being sarcastic, don't you?
The tetrapharmakos is a flawed proof, as is any result of Socratic inquiry with regards to God. In any case, the Tetrapharmakos does not deny God and EPICURUS IS A DUMB PISSA SHIT.
"EPICURUS IS A DUMB PISSA SHIT."
Very thoughtful argument there, good sir. And you're one of those Christians then, I gather? Why, you by far exceed anything I expected! :D
Religion has nothing to do with a nation. A nation is purely political.
Also, America is not the greatest nation on earth. You're just the most important economically (and soon you won't). It seems Japanese are right about how retarded you are.
Religion is two things.
First and foremost it's a political tool used by the strong to govern the weak-minded.
Secondly it's a tool used by the weak-minded to explain (i.e. come up with excuses) why certain things are as they are.
Damn right, I can't add anything.
Hey I'm not retarded...but everyone around me is^^
Seriously, The USofA sucks balls. Texas is the Greatest Nation
Rick Perry is obnoxious enough, without his face on all the currency.
actually texas gave us george w, so i propose you cede from the US so we can go to war with you and nuke you.
A large enough radioactive wasteland WOULD settle the illegal immigration question...
Too bad they'll just go through California, Arizona, and New Mexico (which is what they are doing in addition to Texas at the moment)
> Anonymous
"actually texas gave us george w, so i propose you cede from the US so we can go to war with you and nuke you."
.........a non-George W US nuking anything seems highly unlikely, LOL.
Actually, George was from Maine.
Yes, but no voter in Maine was sufficiently retarded to either nominate 'W' for any state office, or vote him into it if such idiocy occurred. That took Texas and it voters.
Responding to the first post because no one will notice all the way at the bottom.
This should help a bit: http://www.livescience.com/health/060810_evo_rank.html
It isn't a question of whether Japan, US, or any nation believes in spirits or a religion, but rather if they reject evolution. You can have a two different countries where 100% of the population believe in god, but the one that isn't considered outdated, in denial, and being stupid is the one that also has a population that believes in evolution and accepts both.
EXACTLY! I'm not very religious, but I believe in G-d. Evolution is just another of His miracles.
Sounds nice! Of course you have a proof for that? No?
Erm... Maybe its time you should start worshiping "Mushrooms".
Or maybe most do not know the new "religion" called science.
Your statement is no different from your terrorist counterparts. Fortunately, there is still hope in America thanks to those who know where to draw the line between religion and reality.
Forgot to add the fitting image:
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=2768&page=16&replies=308&bb_attachments=95052&bbat=24960
Keep in mind that science is put on a pedestal when it really shouldnt be. Science can only test things that are a part of nature. Also the subjects of science must be testable and repeatable. If these three conditions are not met then it cannot be confirmed by science.
The acceptance of Macro Evolution is due to historic and philosphical decisions NOT Scientific. Dont get me wrong science is extremely useful its just not the only way to go at things(and it can't).
Darwin discovered Micro evolution which is mutations of already existing DNA strands between two generations of a species. Also mutations only destroy or modify the DNA never adding to it.
So lets say that DNA can be added somehow. No matter how you get down to it DNA only changes when transferred to the next generation. So I ask you this how can chemicals reproduce? And how can you get enough complicated sugars to form the right sequences for DNA?
So in recap the evolution theory is a philosophical theory which has been chosen as a reason for the beginning of life through the course of history. So why is God thrown out the window? There are many reasons which will remain unlisted because you all know why or claim not to know.
All that is asked is to search reasonably with an open mind.
Also all this Hate and Bicker'n is the reason why most people just refuse to look for answers. Theres anough H8 here to form our own Spirit Ball of Spite and destruction!
Take it EASY people.
I would ask you to define Macro-Evolution. Macro-evolution is just what you call micro-evolution over long periods of time. You are also mistaken in the belief that the theory of evolution explains the origin of life. It only explains speciation. You are referring to abiogenesis. Also you don't need to recreate evolution to prove it. You can see the evidence and tie it together. You are also mistaken in the belief that mutations cannot add to a dna strand. If I recall correctly there are three types of mutations replacements, deletions, and additions. There are also such things as self replicating polymers. You should look up abiogenesis seriously. God cannot be an answer because saying god did it is like saying you don't know. Evolution is based on proof and is used to make vaccinations every year for the flu. You should have listened when you were in elementary school.
Proof of Macro evolution has yet to be found and your your idea of micro evolution over time is only deductive not inductive.
God is a reasonable answer for the creation of our Universe. Can you give me a reason why not?
Again Evolution is a philosophical off shoot of micro evolution. Yes vaccinations are very useful I thank God for giving us the ability to deal with diseases. You can listen at anytime why not start now?
Reasonable?!?
In the first place the idea of Creating is unacceptable... What is create? is it use different materials, applying certain rules to make something?
NO! of course not...can you create a house?
No, you build houses
Can you create a table?
No! you manufacture tables
The fact is that creation is an invented concept you can't create anything.
With that clear:
If god is perfect, why are its creations imperfect?
Have you ever asked yourself about the reason for "creation"?
Assuming that an entity had a conscience before anything existed. If god is perfect and its perfectly alone, it does not need nor desires help for anything, its perfectly calm and happy. And there is nothing that can diminish its state, and nothing that can increase its happiness and power.
Why would this being want to "create something?
The answer is logic; God by definition cant desire or persue anything.
Therefore, god's creation is a fallacy.
That made me laugh...
America is not even a country, dumbass.
The USA is a place full of ignorant cowboys, who really think that there is a god.
“That the US, so full of idiots, can maintain a scientific and technological lead is the real mystery here…”
this one pwned...
The US still has a lead in science and technology? When did we get it back?
With George W. Bush...lol
I never knew we led wtf cool beans.
We dominate aerospace, pharmaceutical, biotech, computer industries, industrial supplies and always have you idiots.
Those stats are in most all likelihood skewed.
"... and always have..." WTF?!? Only by stealing Nazi scientists and telling them to work for you or face the firing squad. Most americans still think Henry Ford invented the car! You, sir, are the idiot.
Henry Ford probably built his cars the same way europeans invented guns -- bits & pieces of everyone else's science & technology put together in a way no one thought of or thought possible at the time. It is the ability & willingness to borrow & adapt everyone else's stuff that keeps America on top.
"Only by stealing Nazi scientists and telling them to work for you or face the firing squad"
Hey, we take every shortcut we can:D Don't work hard, work smart;)
OUR MILITARY BUDGET IS MORE THAN DOUBLE THE EU'S
FUCK YEAH.
"WTF?!? Only by stealing Nazi scientists and telling them to work for you or face the firing squad. Most americans still think Henry Ford invented the car! You, sir, are the idiot."
FYI for idiots who read this, Henry Ford did not in fact invent the car but the assembly line which made the car essayer to build. Oh and FYI I'm an American and I am not an idiot.
"I'm an American and I am not an idiot."
Lucky you XD.
What would the EU need a high military budget, there is no war in the EU.
Let's nuke the faggot EU and all countries!!
and after that let's bomb the confederates and machine gun the creationists!
If I am not mistaken, in terms of overall technology YES. But when you start breaking down the equation, many other countries have surpassed the Americans in various fields.
They weren't "nazi" scientist & we didn't hold them a gunpoint.They were persecuted by the Nazis for some being followers of judaism
You're forgetting the Nazi scientists & engineers who developed the first missiles--V1 & V2 rockets, and the first rocket & jet fighter planes--the Messierschmitts I think.
And the scientists who performed experiments on prisoners & kept notes.
Well basically it's because you have the idiots and the smart people and there's not a whole lot of overlap. It helps that a lot of the smart people are imported.
And the Japanese are living in a bit of a glass house with regard to how much of what they did in the first half of the 20th Century that they're willing to admit to or teach in school.
yea
Well, go take a look at any research teams in the US and they're likely stacked with people from Asia and the EU. Born and bred US researchers are only a fraction of them.
Yeah from Asia and EU and yet educated at Yale and Harvard.
But Yale and Harvard students must be well educated before they begin there, therefore the best students come from abroad. And Teachers too. American-born "talents" go to church and deny evolution. Of course, because they are retarding.
USA steals it`s "lead" (soon bygone) from other countries, with much better education systems, by hiring people like scientist and researchers. But not for long, when China and Japan begin demanding USA to pay it`s debts.
LOl at the poll that only represents 1.5k of us Americans. Believing in God is lol, however Japan believes that everything is a spirit so we at least believe 1 God(spirit) made everything instead of believing that 2 billion spirits exist that make one thing each. ROR w
Yeah, geography matters huge with that 1.5 also.
In the Bible Belt, you're obviously going to get Christfag results, but in places like Maine, California, Massachusetts, etc., that result would likely be inverted.
Oh wow that one made me laugh XD "that result would likely be inverted", do it, invert the result for the US and notice something highly amazing.
Congratz, you just won the Internet.
If you believe in a higher power don't you think splitting the workload makes more sense?
Believing in spirits is not the same thing as not believing in the evolution like the most dorks in the US. In shintoismn you believe that in everything alive is something godlike, not a believe in something that doesn't exist.
“That the US, so full of idiots, can maintain a scientific and technological lead is the real mystery here…”
That is thanks to the other half that isn't retarded.
The United States of America. The WORST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!
According to Asuka, that would be Germany.
She could probably say that about America too, though. I believe she also has (shudder) U.S. citizenship...
The worst country will be the countries jealous of the USA and have to cry about it on the internet.
+ 9000
Hater.
No, it`s Afganistan. But it`s strange that Americans want to stay there.
Half? Are you drunk, good sir?
While the Japanese are in no position to throw stones when it comes to the supernatural, I agree that it is exceedingly pathetic how many people believe in Creationism here in the US.
Believing in the supernatural is not the problem, believing that the supernatural trumps reality is the problem. Stupid people exist in every nation, that goes without saying, but the Japanese with their culture of spirits and gods, still have a vast majority who believe that science and rational thinking works. While Americans, with only one god, fervently deny such realities to the point where they want to outlaw it in schools.
more like, the only thing more retarded than reality is religion
I always hated religion. Caused me problems when I moved to where I live now. Everyone hated me for not going to church and all that. Luckily now I have met plenty of people that could care less that I'm atheist. Though, I do believe in some of the supernatural things for some reason.
Just wanna say that believing in a deity and believing in evolution are not mutually exclusive.
I believe in both.
From what I understand, this is pretty standard in Europe. This pope has even made statements to that effect.
I disagree with his reasoning, but I'm appreciative that he's not a total moron.
Agreed.
the Americans are still in the previous stage of evolution, thats why is hard for them to believe in it...
flame away!
Pretty sure you can't start flame wars by calling Americans stupid
Yet if American says something about another countries then that starts wars... double standards..
We Americans have a sense of humor, unlike the Chinese...
Sometimes I wish the Us was less religious or at least tolerant but that won't happen for awhile. I want to see this film...
you say that as a whole but great contributions were made by people from other countries.
Hmmmm I wonder why japans suicide rate is so high? Maybe because they don't have religion
There is Shinto, Buddhism, Christianity, Islam, Sikhism and other types of religions. They allow religious freedom. Saying they don't have religion was a very ignorant statement.
Russians are increasingly religious.
Russians are increasingly suicidal.
Go figure.
I am getting increasingly unreligious.
My hair is getting increasingly longer.
Go figure.
8D
>Russians are increasingly religious.
ORLY?
Nope, in fact suicide rates indirectly reflected another aspect. Their people are more willing to work their ass off as compared to waiting for state welfare.
Maybe because many countries are unwilling to classify suicidal deaths as suicide, because it`s a sin!
screw all that crap, Haruhi created everything, or chuck norris ore the flying spaghetti monster.
Chuck Norris didn`t create anything. He IS The Flying Spaghetti Monster!
Anyone know the source of that survey? Some parts of the US are pretty wacko when it comes to religion, mainly the "bible belt". Just look up the Scopes Trial. Its been over 80 years since that and things really have not changed down there.
I'm curious (worried) about the survey's methodology as well.
I really, really hope that I don't live in a country in which the majority doesn't believe in rationality.
And it should be pointed out more often that evolutionism =/= atheism, despite what creationists suggest.
PS There is no god but Haruhi, and Kyon is her prophet. Amen.
Rationality... is... right?
It can't even proof anything before the Big Bang 'cause before that, all laws of nature break.
Rationality is not rational. At all.
There is no evidence as to what happened "before" the Big Bang (if the concept "before the Big Bang" means anything). However, there is ample evidence that evolution is the most rational explanation for the fossil record.
And since this page is about evolution, that is what I meant, and so it is a win for this Anon.
....considering befour the bigbang all the laws we use to mesure the univers were not in effect its a little hard to go befour them isnt it?
Actually with string theory, they have mapped all the way back to the big bang and have working theories for beyond it. Well American scientists anyway.
Yes. Haruhi is The True God. And Mikuru and Yuki are Her Arch Angels. Let`s all worship them, when they manifest themselves in every thursday.
It probably was that region. There are 7 million or so people in North Carolina and at least 90% are the hypocritical ass hats that deny science but they go against there own "teachings" everyday.
Why follow a group that can't follow there own rules?
Even the pope John Paul II (the one before nazinger) admitted the evolution as a fact. Damn, i'd like to believe that U.S is trolling the world.
Somehow, the press enjoys ignoring the fact that many great scientists have been Catholic, and that the Catholic Church regards Genesis as an allegory, not literal fact.
This could not possibly be due to any degree of anti-Catholic sentiment on the part of the Jews who run 99% of the mainstream media.
And those Christian scientists became enlightened to the glory of science. Science is truly the evolution of religion.
And at least Christians still own the decrepit little corner of the media that is Fox News: The ultimate trolling news station.
Yeah its sad when people put all the Christians together on the same boat as ignorant fools. No, guys, most Catholics (at least where I live) are smarter. The Evangelists though... they're the hard bunch. >_>
For a slightly less simplified interpretation of the poll, see...http://www.harrisinteractive.com/harris_poll/index.asp?PID=581
The Catholic church eventually managed to coexist with science. But let's not forget the many centuries it would clamp down, hard on anything appearing to question the literal truth of the Bible.
A lot of the early Catholic scientists escaped persecution because no one understood the significance of their research.
That story that many great scientist have been religious is a persistent lie. Stop spreading it. One survey told that 7% of scientists we`re believers. Wonder what shit their so-called science was?
well, the majority of Americans aren't Catholic. They're every flavor of protestant you can think of. I don't know if other countries have those money-grabbing religious businesses the megachurches but they're a rampant disease over in the U.S. Anyways.....Protestants don't care much for catholics either. So if John Paul II said it they'll probably say he's just an idiot. It's is kind of funny how catholics were also persecuted in America for quite a while since the country came to exist.
"God created man, and man returned the favor."
Circular logic much?
Learn to pull the wool over your own eyes!
Can't believe Bulgaria is in there I feel ashamed ... ... not that I care even if I'm bulgarian we have way too many shit believers here in Bulgaria lol xD
“God didn’t make man, man made god.”
I think this is the best quote I've seen from 2ch
Seconded
god was made by men to control the masses out savagery by fear , look at how many times the translations to certain passages of the bible has changed over the years.
reused quote is reused
Agreed; 2ch isn't anything special for using that quote tbh.
It's a re-wording of a Nietzsche quote.
I want to start a nation on the moon. You can only pass by burning your book of evolution, bible, and birth certificate.
Will there be whaling?
If so, count me in.
Well, at least we can still laugh at Turkey, right?
lmfao.
turkey are the only muslim country on the chart
They're probably the only one that would allow a survey to be held.
Well and to compare the Americans to them is kind of sad. You know...
wow some vicious anti American 2chan speak there interesting japan s always trying to be like us (an we like them but that's neither here nor there.)
Actually, the Japanese hate all Americans with a passion. Not just conservatives. But liberals too. They laughed when 9/11 happened. They didn't lose anyone in the WTC. And those buildings were UGLY! All American cities are ugly. New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, San Francisco, Boston, Houston, Seattle, Philadelphia and especially Washington. You have no health care. You discriminate against everyone who isn't like you and you're entire existence is stained with the blood of the millions of innocent Natives that your ancestors slaughtered. This land is not your land. This land was not made for you or me. It doesn't matter if you're liberal or conservative. Democrat or Republican. White or Black. Gay or Straight. Man or Woman. From California or Texas. New York or Alabama. New England or Kansas. All 303 million Americans are fat, stupid, ugly, lazy ignorant, racist, sexist, homophobic, closed-minded, intolerant war-mongering, bible-loving, white supremacist assholes! You are the worst country in the world and the world wished you NEVER EXISTED!
Sincerely, Canada.
Who has absolutely, positively, NOTHING in common with you hosers.
LA MORT VERS L'AMÉRIQUE ! ! !
TOD NACH AMERIKA!!!
DOOD AAN AMERIKA!!!
ΘΑΝΑΤΟΣ ΣΤΗΝ ΑΜΕΡΙΚΗ!!!
MORTE IN AMERICA!!!
MORTE A AMÉRICA!!!
СМЕРТЬ К АМЕРИКА!!!
¡MUERTE A AMÉRICA!!!
لموت لأميركا!
アメリカへの死!!!
死亡向美国!!!
미국에 죽음!!!
+1?
death to America....love that Canadian tolerance. especially since french and English are native Canadian tongues. Not to mention all those ethnic Canadians who lived there long before those damn Europeans arrived there.
Sure America's a shit hole but why do you have to bring Canada into this?
Because it's not a shithole like Canada. We have the best health care in the world. We are the most ethnically diverse nation in the world. We have low crime rates. And more importantly, our history isn't as blood-stained as America. Plus, America is destroying our culture. I don't watch American movies or TV. I don't listen to American music or read American books or magazines. I don't even like liberal Americans like Michael Moore or Keith Oblermann simply because they are American and nothing else.
Oh, they're just mad because of our hilarious habit of shelling some Canadians whenever we're in the same war zone.
You know, "accidentally"...
Fuck. I meant to say because Canada is not a shithole like America.
Just remember. Canada : Good. America: Bad.
I thought Canada was above radical nationalism. That's a little of what I liked about it. Too bad I was wrong. Also, hating a country for its bloody history is stupid. Hate it for what it is not for it was.
Seems like an al qaeda recruitment site to me.. Anyway Canadians are just pussies who ran away during the american revolutionary war.
I'm an American and I can actually feel for what you guys are saying.
I have a message to all liberals in America:
STOP FUCKING AROUND WITH THAT "BLEEDING-HEART" BULLSHIT OF YOURS AND GRAB A PIECE. HAVE THE BALLS TO PULL THE TRIGGER AND KEEP DOING SO AS LONG AS LONG AS THAT CONSERVATIVE RAT IN YOUR SIGHTS CONTINUES TO BREATHE.
I hate the USA for what it was and what it is and pray that it has no future.
And we may have run away during the Revolutionary War, but at least we didn't illegally invade another country for oil or murder innocent women and children with nukes who had nothing to do with a war that their militaries were fighting.
I personally think that every war that the USA fought in was wrong and meaningless. Except the Civil War. Oh, yes. Americans killing Americans. Oh, I pray that Texas secedes from the American Empire so they'll have to lie themselves into another war for oil. It'll be beautiful.
"We have the best health care in the world. We have low crime rates. And more importantly, our history isn't as blood-stained as America."
+ We have great education system and gender equality.
Welcome to the Northern Europe.
Damn dude you sound like a terrorist. You seem to pray a lot... prayer is a joke.
"Illegally invade another country for oil". Yes because we have such super cheap gas prices here that must have been the reason.
"murder innocent women and children with nukes who had nothing to do with a war" Sorry but that women and children only rule is a load of crap. So as a male its ok for me to die but not women of the same age, wtf? Women teach the kids about the people who kill their fathers, then children grow up to become the new enemies. So nobody is innocent.
Hell the fact we had to nuke them twice show how crazy they all where.
Every war huh? What about helping in WWII you know like Canada also did. Everybody always says every war is meaningless, sorry but war is good for a few things, evolution, new tech, less people to feed etc..
I hate when we go to war because we always see to fight for other dumb asses freedoms
16:10, Conservatism has nothing to do with evolution. It is essentially a concept of governance. Unless your argument is that the US should nationalize all film distribution?
16:14 Most successful nations have gotten there through collateral damage. I seem to recall Canada wasn't exactly uninhabited when it's settlers got there.
This isn't a "governance" or "economic" issue dumbass, it's a socio-cultural issue (i.e. the "Culture War"), which is something the conservatives have had an edge on for far too long now.
The conservatives are the ones that are raising the most shit with regards to concepts like evolution in schools, gay marriage, pornography and other things that run counter to traditional fundementalist Christian dogma--The conservatives the ones siding with the fucking religious nutcases and their megachurches in making America into a theocracy and prolonging our embarrasment in front of the whole world.
With that in mind, why shouldn't the liberals rise up and take every fucking conservative to the gullotine?
Conservatism is about a mode of thinking. What you are describing are Republicans, which is about is a lack thereof.
Of course, I've seen bitching about all those things from the left, who, it's true, aren't terribly conservative. But that doesn't mean the mouth-breathers who elected Bush were, either.
If you're really interested in getting the US out from the yoke of the megachurchs, etc. Do some research, and find out what a conservative is, and isn't. Just because someone wants that label doesn't mean they deserve it.
Hey guess what? You think the "Christian Right" are the only ones responsible for turning this country into a shithole? Conservatives of all kinds, either real or not real, have done their fair share:
Who wanted the south to keep slavery to preserve their economic superiority despite their unethical practices? Southern/economic conservatives.
Who opposed (and continues to oppose) the existence of unions that fight against abusive managers and poor working conditions despite the? Economic conservatives.
Who were the ones that were so obsessed with the "invisible hand" theory to the point where they opposed the New Deal in the 30's that helped save our economy in the Great Depression? Economic conservatives.
Who gave the biggest support to McCarthy's abusive and paranoid policies against leftists in the name of fighting communists despite? Foreign-policy conservatives.
Who were the ones that supported segregated facilities in the 60s and the massive resistance towards integration in the 70s? Southern conservatives.
Who were the ones that lowered the tax rate in the 80s to the point where there's no longer any incentive for wealthy people to donate to charitable organizations? Economic conservatives.
Conservatives of every kind, both the religious ones who're conservatives in name only AND THE "REAL" ONES THAT THINK OF IT AS A MODE OF THINKING HAVE CAUSED TOO MUCH DAMAGE ALREADY. So what if you're not one of those fanatically religious conservatives? You still continue to associate yourself with a group of people who're just as equally capable of causing as much (or even worse) damage as their fanatically "fake" counterparts--Why shouldn't you all spend the last few moments of your pathetic lives staring down the barrel of an M16?
You, Sir, appear to be one of sensible, wise Americans. Maybe there is still some hope.
You sure do know a lot about the very country you hate so much. Been here often, have you? Ey?
There is some good Americans: people in their porn industry!
Americans don't believe in evolution because their minds are so stone-aged backwards.
Nah, just kidding, the American mind is just bloated with too much tv, ignorance, and semen.
Win. Too true.
Lose, need to state your own country your from so others can attack it.
They are even outwitted by their own missiles! At least the missiles can find Iraq and Afghanistan!
"...too much tv, ignorance, and semen" Semen? Do you mean, too little sex, or they don`t dare to masturbate, because it`s a sin. Interesting theory.
usa sucks plain and simple JP FTW lol
Yes and when North Korea finally attack Japan who do you think they will cry and whine help from..
I personally like China and Russia. I believe we three countries (USA, China and Russia)should team up and divide the world up.
Tch that could only happen after communist China is destroyed.
Hasn`t this already happened?
I think the critism here is a little harsh and I'm not even from the US (= Gerfag).
On the other hand I've got to say, (all) religion works quite a lot with symbols and metaphors imho. The bible does not tell a verified story with lots of elaboration. Instead of taking everything at face value people should see the underlying messages.
If people would start seeing the difference here, Christianity wouldn't even have any problems with the evolution theory.
“God didn’t make man, man made god.”
“It’s the 21st century and these idiot Christians still believe these fairytales. How long will they keep believing this rubbish…”
AMEN...
Pfff why should he care what Americans attitude on evolution is. The only reason hes not showing it here is because he wouldnt make enough money from it. To hell if Americas "not ready".
Quite the contrary, he would make quite a bit of money, just look at Bill Maher's Religulous. Hardly a flop...
The reasoning is only done by the less vocal groups in America who aren't religious fags, seriously the testament of the idiocy of the American general public when it comes to religion is evident in the election and re-election of George W. Bush as president just because he declared himself a borned again Christian.
This statement is something that even American's admit, well at least the learned few.
Second time he didn't win. He cheated>
I facepalmed...
I'm an American and I still ask myself, "Why is my country full of idiots?" Wish they stop living in ancient times and should start using their brains.
Just because someone doesn't believe in evolution doesn't mean that they're an idiot. That kind of logic is retarded. Evolution isn't infallible.
Not believing in evolution doesn't mean you're retarded, it means you're uninformed. Evolution cannot be believed in, because faith does not play a part in it. Not accepting evolution on the other hand, is pretty foolish once you see that all the evidence that points in the general vicinity of evolution.
Not believing in evolution alone does not make you retarded.
Not believing in evolution in the face of overwhelming scientific empirical evidence makes you a retard.And there are plenty of people like that.
Basing on scientific empirical evidence alone is retarded. You can't even prove you are awake right now and all of this is not just a dream 'cause the world as we observe is just the interpretation of our brain. And, dream is also interpretation of our brain. Really, science can't prove anything.
science proves just as much as religion does.
and neither get us anywhere...
both are just reasons to try and define our existence. nothing more, nothing less
At least science has proof and does not go around claiming that it is infallible! In fact, current science knowledge changes, gets replaced, gets thrown out or gets updated very often!
Religion (or at least people practicing religion) insist it is right even when there's overwhelming evidence pointing that it is wrong!
lol at 'science proves as much as religion does'
stop proving the surveys right you weak minded tards
Some ppl here write "science doesn`t prove anything" and yet they use internet & other technology, hopefully get good science-based medical treatment. How blind can you get?
Nah man, he's just trying to generate some controversy by not releasing it over here. In which would generate interests as well. Now people would actually kinda wanna see what the movie's about.
That chart is really just a measurement of how many hicks each nation has.
+1, I live fucking surrounded by redneck christfags :/
“What is the US, some kind of huge kindergarten?”
“Americans love massacres so it’s fitting they are all Christians.”
I lol'd
All Americans are Christians wtf no they are not..
More like MOST Americans THINK they are Christians. I doubt they even read the Bible page by page or word by word nowadays.
When will this country see religion for what it is. A fucking fairy tale. What pisses me off the most is how Christians say "we're a peaceful religion" when the only reason Christianity is still around is because it was spread at the point of a sword.
I think people who deny other peoples' opinions are assholes. Both the Christians who protest against a fucking film, and the anons here claiming to know all the secrets of the universe. I'm not really up-to-date when it comes to science, but I think discovering that there is/isn't a god would've made the news.
Non-believers need as much proof that god doesn't exist as believers have that he does - sweet fuck all.
I like you.
Are you living under a rock sir?
Whee, let's generalize history, religions, nations, people, EVERYTHING based on a quick statistic and idiots we see on TV!
If Christianity is so peaceful, then what are the Crusades? If there is a religion that can ever be claimed to be peaceful, it would be Buddhism. Incidents of people killing each other in the name of Buddha are few and far between throughout history.
As a Buddhist, I have to disagree.
Buddhists were complicit in a lot of the Japanese brutality in mainland Asia, and the Sinhalese apartheid state in Sri Lanka, just in the past century. I don't think of it as particularly good Buddhism, but that was likely the justification used.
The bodycount IS much lower, and it's easily among the religions most respectful towards scientific theory. Still, it's good to know these things.
But I thought State Shinto was complicit in the Japanese brutality in mainland Asia and racism was the Sinhalese apartheid state in Sri Lanka.
If I had to live in Japan I wouldn't believe in a god either.
Yes, let's rely on statistics to judge an entire nation. By all means.
I feel sad, knowing I live higher up on the globe knowing idiots of these proporsions live under me.
ahh yes...the glorious christfag
didnt we learn history that some dude create those religion???
now in year 2009 people still think those are real?
come on, the bible say this, the bible say that...those are all written by people and it never come to their mind that "the people" might be "full of shit"?
Indeed, the only bible we should read is the Bible black
LOL! indeed
FUCK YESSSSSSS!!
Absolutely!
That really is sad. They can believe in god all they want but they can't even accept evolution a another view. So much so, that they're denouncing the movie. They clearly don't have enough faith in their own religion and are afraid they're gonna lose worshippers and donators to the evolution theory.
Why does 2ch, no Japan in general think it can stand on a soapbox and 'preach'?
The same reason Americans think they can. Duh.
Or the Europeans every time the Americans do anything at all.
But we have bigger sticks than the other guys...
Yet again American's surprise me. When will religion be done away with and the idea of an afterlife is destroyed, why can't we live with death in mind.
No, we atheists don`t think death very often, and we are not afraid of hell in afterlife, because there is not such a thing in our minds.
WOW. 2chan otakus are apparently more intelligent and rational than half USA!!!!!.
Reality hurts idiotic americans....
With George Bush
Some people are forever doomed to live in stupidity.
It can't be helped.
That's rich :) I'm American and intelligent design is bullshit. Darwin ftw
... Cyprus and Latvia are in that chart, but not Canada?
What the hell.
I thought it was bad enough that everyone has such bad stereotypes about us, but, just wow, I really feel offended by this. Not as a Christian (I'll just define my beliefs as 'not sure' to keep it short), but as a citizen of the US.
World opinion actually matters. Maybe everyone will see that when we hit rock bottom.
Yeah and when we need help from all those countries we helped for years let see if they actually do...
Well dunno which countries you mean, but many EU countries have helped US in many ways in the past and probably do in the present.
Hurricane Katrina incident for example had many ppl from around the world helping any way they could (mostly medical help from Red cross)
There are also plenty of Peace keepers in Iraq from many countries.
Dunno how well you ppl get informed about these helping chases tough. The ways the media tells things greatly differs between differend media and countries.
yes their are organizations that help but to be honest America is the most generous nation and will continue to be so except in a depression. Not only does our government give away ridiculous sums of our Tax money Americans give away huge sums of money to charities that help people across the world.
So when I visit Europe, and I personally get scoffed at as an evil american pig tourist even though I did nothing offensive at all, it's a good thing because it will teach my politicians to care more about other countries opinions?
That's not it. They get angry because they want to be the top dog in the world unfortunately handled by the US. It's just human's jealousy against others who have better than them.
Seriously, get over with the hate because all of us are fail. One for ridiculing other races that are different from themselves culturally. Like a retard hating another retard.
"Every theory, even the most unbelievable one, that's been never prooved wrong is a solid possibility" - scientific method & calculation of probability
“Americans love massacres so it’s fitting they are all Christians.”
Wow, his one is butthurt since '45...
“And these idiots make a fuss over a few whales…”
Is it even related to whatever is going on? And "few whales" must be quite literal since there aren't many left.
Yes, all of America... except Cambridge, MA and Berkeley, CA, as 100% of their populations believe in evolution. I just happen to be nearby...
Oh, and you can be Christian and still believe in evolution, not everybody takes the bible literally.
That's why the Catholics don't have a problem with the evolution theory. My mother has a Catholic Bible that dedicates the first dozens of pages to clarify that religion and science can co-exist, and that the Bible mustn't be taken at face value.
Unfortunately, most Evangelists are illiterate, really poor people, or grow up with too much censoring of information, and the damn pastors who only like money spread all the nonsense. Its a pity. Catholics don't bad mouth other religions, but the Evangelists LIVE to tell people they're going to hell. And they make all Christians look bad. That's why I can't stand them. Ò_Ó
from the people who brought you segregation, mob lynchings, and nascar
lets hear it for the south!
What a dumbass thing to say, the north even had slaves during the freaking civil war. Lincoln didn't even want to free the slaves at first..
Christians: Feminism with men and Darth Sidious
i hate how they group us all in one bunch. just because i live here, doesnt mean i follow all the american traditions.
Why is Russia not on the list? It's only the biggest country on earth. They would be somewhere in the top half of the list I imagine, due to lack of brainwashed religious retards.
In Soviet Russia Yuri evolves YOU!
I guess Russia is back in Czarist times, concerning beliefs in creation or evolution, so about 85% are in state of denial. And some American and Russians hate each other, sharing much of same views!
so Wouldnt China have like a 100% rate for Evolution? lol
anon doesn't know what he/she is saying I see.
people IS stupid
Unless religious people can demonstrate that what they believe in is different from fairytale, I'll stick with whats real: science.
FUSION JACK~~~~~
EVOLUTION KING!!!!
For once in my life i shouted out LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Yay Croatia, wait does America include canada...
For once I kind of agree with the japanese internet on this one. Maybe I should move to iceland...
You wouldn't want to go to Iceland. They're bankrupt...money wise, not intellectually
Probably best choice would be Uk, it wouldn't be such of a cultural shock as many other countries might be.
As an American, with no particular faith but a strong scientific background it amuses me that with reports like this that the religious groups can gripe about being an oppressed minority, and to the best of my knowledge even as the simple American that i am none of our public schools are allowed to teach anything other then evolution.
It's amazing how successfully the filmmakers have trolled the news media. We're talking about a boring period piece, something that might, at best, play in some arthouse theaters for a couple of weeks.
Reviewers have called Creation "Flat, dull, and painful to sit through". Another reviewer pointed out "Darwin the scientist is reduced to a brooding, whimpering intellectual parody who wouldn’t be so out of place in a Woody Allen movie."
Distributors don't shy away from controversy, they relish it... as long as a market is involved. Dogma got huge distribution, for example. What we have here is a movie nobody will go see, not because of their opinion of evolution... but because it's a boring waste of time.
Darwin was a boring, whimpering wretch of a clergyman whose idea of fun was collecting beetles. He would never have published it at all if someone else hadn't come up with the same theory and been on the verge of publishing it themselves.
Canada isn't even on the poll. :(
Implying Canada matters to anyone.
I know that's why there is a sad smiley.
Dear 2ch.
I am an American. I am an Atheist. I wish to deliver a message to the world. People are fucking dumbasses.
There is no bearded man in the clouds watching over us. If he was real, he doesn't listen to our prayers. If he did, there would b e no reason for these things. Either he doesn't listen, or he listens to the bad ones. If he does this, then why do we call him god?
Sincerely: Anyone with a brain.
Is there any specific reason why we're continuing to let American conservatives live?
Yeah, listening to Rush Limbaugh blow a gasket is too good of entertainment for 70% of the country.
Is there any specific reason why American liberals are this stupid enough to classify people like Rush or Ann as "entertainment" as opposed being cockroaches that need a good exterminator?
Tragically, we made it illegal to kill them.
Why should "the law" stop the liberals if they know that they're being manipulated by the conservative roaches?
If liberals tried to kill off conservatives you would be outnumbered and at the same time the independents would take action to eradicate they far to the right and far to the left people thusly ensuring that they would win.
The fact that they were "outnumbered" didn't stop the extreme far-right conservatives from taking over and screwing around, did they? Why should liberals have to be deterred by something like that?
Because if you kill one of them, that one will become a martyr. Their followers would then become a lot more powerful.
Plus, if someone DID kill W, Cheney would have been president. Thats a scenario thats too scary to even contemplate. Thats why nobody ever even considered assassinating him.
“That the US, so full of idiots, can maintain a scientific and technological lead is the real mystery here…”
part of the reason is - people who have come to work from other countries ))), I (living in Canada) yet to find a professor in physics, math or engineering who/whos family did not immigrate))
Man, getting told off as "stupid and ignorant" by 2channers is too rich.
A country like Japan doesn't really have any diversity in the ethnic religious makeup of its people. So, they don't understand that in a country like the US, you don't have to go far to suddenly be in a whole different world.
If they split that poll up to "South of the Mason-Dixon Line from Texas on east" vs. the rest of the damn country, the North would be up there next to Japan while "Dumbfuckistan^H^H^H^H^H^H^H the south" wouldn't even be on a chart with Muslim nations listed.
Ciao!
this artcle has nothing to do with 2chan
"So, they don't understand that in a country like the US, you don't have to go far to suddenly be in a whole different world."
yeah man once i saw a white person, travelled to a different place and suddenly i saw a black person! my world has been turned upside down
Kit your an idiot, I live in the south and I believe in evolution and I am also not religious, neither is most of my friends. So yeah FAIL
Not too many foreigners know this, but all of the southern states are actually not part of the USA proper. They are still technically part of this country, but they have limited involvement in federal issues and international affairs. In f
I always feel like I'm gonna puke when I read the comments on this site...
People are so dumb...
Which are mostly made up of imported assets d:
I am both ashamed and annoyed.
First of all, I am ashamed to hear that such a startling number of people in my own country still believe in something as ridiculous as religion.
Secondly, I'm annoyed by all the people who generalize to the point that it sounds like ALL Americans are stupid cunts who believe in God, etc, etc.
This is not the case. There are always exceptions.
Lastly, FUCK YEAH, ICELAND!
Well, Puritans and the such were the ones who settled America, so I guess it is only natural that some of the beliefs still hold true through the centuries.
Dear Japan,
We still nuked you twice.
-With love, America
P.S How's the whale massacre going?
P.P.S Science is mute, and can not be use to prove or disprove god, whether or not evolution is fact.
1. the whale massacre is going delicious, thanks.
2. common sense disproves god.
I think this needs to be made clear. Common sense says that if any thing like a god exist why would they give a damn about you or the rest of the human race?
Common sense says that if there is no god, your on your own. If there is a god, your fucked.
LOL I love that and I agree.
Most people don't even know what the proponents of intelligent design are arguing against. Even though there are good evidences out there pointing toward evolution but it's still inconclusive, as in they still haven't found "the missing link" even though the archaeologists have been digging up dirt for like 300 years. Also there is also the problem of "irreducible complexity": A lot of organs/cellular mechanisms in the body can't function as "half-evolved", take heart and lungs/Krebs cycle for example. There needs to be a minimum complexity for it to be functional. And actually, intelligent design doesn't rule out the natural selection, which is a kind of microevolution that has been studied, documented, and proven. But as to life evolve from nothing and from single-cell organisms to multicellular organisms, that kind of macroevolution. There are more studies to be done on that.
To poorly quote Time magazine (I think): "Evolution is like a net, it may be full of holes, but it is very real to the fish."
Just as the religious have been striving for *thousands* of years and are still to show any proof of god whatsoever...
the whole idea is that you choose to believe in something that cant be proven. the religion does not require believers to offer up proof, thats how its managed to evolve beyond a cult and persist for thousands of years. its easy answers for the weak minded.
I would like to ask an important question. Does no one here know that the theory of evolution has no scientific backing and has been scientifically disproved.
I really hope you are trolling...
Its still a 'theory' for a reason. The 'Big Bang' is also a load of crap. 'Dark matter' indeed.
And just to preempt a lot of left/right trolling: I'm not religious: bullshit is bullshit.
if by load of crap you mean universally accepted by nearly all scientists then youre absolutely right.
So was the flat earth theory at the time. Red shift and dark matter. Do your research junior, you're being lied to. The universe is not expanding.
lmfao at this wannabe scientist anon. yep, do your research and youll find out its all made up just like the bible. get your head out of the fucking sand.
The scientific definition of a theory is not the same as the linguistic one. That's pretty basic, as education goes.
How's that Emerson quote go?
They replaced dark matter with dark energy now.
Some people tend to forget that evolution is not JUST a theory, it is FACT. Evolution has been observed and recorded. It may be hard for some to comprehend simply because a species won't drastically change over a single generation. Dinosaurs didn't turn into birds overnight; it took millions of years.
^
I think we can all agree to microevolution aka natural selection. But it is the macroevolution that we need evidence to prove. We have yet to find transitional fossil records during the event of speciation(a nail in the coffin), say, from reptile to mammal. In fact the theory of evolution has only been around for 200 years, which is a blink of an eye compare to the timescale of life existed on earth. I wouldn't call that a fact but more like a probable hypothesis for now.
hahahahahahaha. i hope youre serious, that makes it so much more funny.
What kind of shit are you talking anon(12:40).Its still a theory because it has NOT been disproved but there is also no 100% proof that it is true so it hasn't been called a "law" yet.That's the way scientific theories work.Dumbass.
The theory still stands until today because nobody could prove it to be wrong YET.
The lies you're spreading is the same shit creationists tell the stupid Americans who fail in biology.
disproving a theory a paradigm shift does not make.
And yet it has not been proven to be absolutely correct. Biology and Intelligent Design aren't mutually exclusive. As a scientist I believe both sides have their points, and the data is inconclusive to prove/disprove either side. Only ignorant people will blindly follow the mainstream belief without considering arguments from both sides.
Those responses from 2ch makes me think they don't even realize how entrenched mysticism is in Japan.
Okatu praying for an Anime wife at a shrine.
Anyway believe in God or not only three things matter:
1. You cannot deny science nor can you take it too far.
2. Don't push your views on others.
3. However you do it, be a good person.
Very well said.
A more sophisticated view of politics and power would lead you to the conclusion that powerful special interests disproportionately effect perception in the United States more than almost anywhere in the world.
Also, you can look beyond the name calling if you are a sociologist and attempt to study why there are so many more religious people in the United States; mainly the eradication of all social programs, stagnation of wages, lack of health care, rising cost of virtually everything, eradication of labor unions, eradication and privatization of schools, poverty, outsourcing and the destruction of all manufacturing. It's basically extreme oppression and corruption. In areas like this, you see irrationality and religion replace reality, because the reality is despair.
A truly educated observer would realize that most of the people in the US are either misrepresented by a vocal minority, or victims. The same thing has happened in multiple parts of the world before.
..Lol Turkey. As a Turkish citizen, I am Not Amused by these results. Worse than America, eh.
Seriously, religion class should be taken off our curriculum.
the chart is quite misleading, although it saids "34 countries", its basically EUROPE, US and JAPAN.
I'd be willing to bet the rest of the world is even more ignorant, a few exceptions like Singapore aside.
Be interesting to know China and Israel's results.
Singapore? I can safely say that most of us would place not sure as most singaporeans are clueless, ignorant and unconcerned abt things like this. Coming from a Singaporean here. I support evolution anyway.
Well, I doubt the Icelandic youth are all passionate about it, either.
Singapore has a pretty solid reputation,compared to it's immediate neighbors. Even if what you say is true, it's still better than an even split, like my nation.
Having studied in Singapore, the younger generation there is very similar to the little princes and princesses in America.
...and Japan is only there because it's an honorary member of Europe.
Japan isn't really like Europe..
Stupid americans. Nothing new.
Jealous third world commentators, nothing new.
It's moments like these that make me ashamed of being an American. I accept people having different beliefs, but when those beliefs are forced upon other people like the fucking Republicans tried to do for the last eight years, that's where I get pissed. One day, I would like to live in a country where our beliefs don't isolate us from the rest of the world. I mean seriously, it's probably just a movie talking about Darwin, and the fact that it won't come out here says how much catching up we as a country need to do.
Our 'country' will be dead in less than 2 years, and you'll be sucking U.N. dick with the rest of the Europeans.
Enjoy the end of the constitution and all of your rights you stupid paradigmer.
oh christ a fucking republican. get water-boarded faggot.
Paradigmer= someone who believes in left vs. right. Maybe you should stick to loli porn?
Who the fuck came up with that random yet oddly specific definition?
prolly that anon, just now.
You Paradigimoners.
dead in 2 years? how do you figure? are you a north korean scientist working on missles?
I always laugh when someone bring God in to a topic. Seriously, the US nation really need some hardcore education to get their mind thinking about what is really happening and what not.
From where I live they are a lots of idiots saying GOD is all that. I'm really sadden by them.
Yeah, and that hardcore education needs to start with you.
Japanese and French may pray to MOE characters.
"Oh my Louise! Oh my Shana!"
Americans are fucking stupid.
So are jealous people.
The US is pretty set it its old, often downright stupid ways--that's nothing new. What's got me shocked is that so much of Japan is down with evolution, what with all the talk of shrines and anti-demon barriers and danmaku-ing virgin goddesses (possibly excepting Suwako Moriya, depending on who you ask). I guess there's no reason those can't co-exist alongside an origin that makes sense, though.
The main religion of Japan does not exactly believe in an almighty god anyway, so it isn't too surprisng.
In the end it doesn't matter what the Japanese believe, with their weak population rates they'll be extinct in no time anyway. They can be the fossils people discover years from now.
Christians, Jews, & Muslims can accept that all living things come from God, but can't accept that all living things have a common point of original ancestry. They want to believe that the way animals & plants are put together are united by the idea that one all-powerful being did it all at once, not by the idea that the design of one form of life led to & influenced the design of later-appearing forms of life in a step-by-step progression.
Oh yeah, I forgot one other thing: They RESENT the idea that they might have ANYTHING in common with monkeys!
Japanese love monkies that's why they love evolution. Monkey D. Luffy and One Piece is the most popular manga in Japan? The second most is Dragonball, a story about monkey men?
lol good point. I freaking hate Monkeys.
If you believes in ghost then there is God, if you don't, there's no God. Simple as that.
I'm a Christian myself and I'm pretty comfortable with evolution, that might be how we were made in the first place-though I wonder why we dropped our furry monkey coats the more we evolved. You'd think that would be helpful. There's just too many ignorant christfags in the US that can't accept evolution as an explanation for how we end up. Believe me, the world wasn't made in literally a week, if that story is even true but no one has taken the bible literally even when it was just created.
Humans are suppose to have originated from either africa or china. Fur would NOT be helpful
If your as hairy as the men and women in my family, you kept the fur regardless.
Lastly, you need anyone who was around at the time or knew anything about it to die out before you can make everyone believe bullshit.
People jumping on the JAPAN RULZZ AMERIKA SUXLOL = Fat Otaku rejects that get erect off their own manboobs.
CANADA RULZ #1 = Too much beer, hosers. Canada = #1 Greatest Insignificant in the world; you all are like that whiny little brother in the chav clothes way too big for your ass; just look at your land.
SCIENCE IS FACT. NOLIE. = Science is not a matter of it is or it is not. It doesn't prove anything; it doesn't disprove anything. Science is a method of maybes, and by all definitions, it continues to seek to disprove gravity. Again, SCIENCE IS NOT TO BACK UP YOUR ARROGANCE. So GTFO.
BUUUURN CHRISTIAAAANZZZ!!! = So you're an atheist. You believe in nothing, but that in itself is a belief. You are no better than a Christian for trying to push your beliefs on others.
With love from Lancashire, U.K.
James
Move to Alabama, please.
I live in a america and it annoys the hell out of me that people actually believe in something they've never seen.
I read this earlier, and I have to say it feels manufactured. Either that, or there are pieces of the story we aren't being told. There are literally HUNDREDS of movies about Darwin distributed in the US, why would everyone decide to shun this one for only that reason? inb4 this movie suddenly "finds" a distributor in a couple months.
“God didn’t make man, man made god.”
I swear I've heard that in an episode of Cowboy Bebop
Why can't 4chan have discussions like this?
Lol at the comments from 2 chan, what do you expect to hear from them and Japan's general lack of religious diversity.
Yeah and those same people would be the first crying for help from the USA to save them if north Korea attacks...
if the USA didn't facepalmfail, there wouldn't be a North Korea in the first place...
Intelligent Design isn't about God. In fact, if you consider the odds of simple elements aggregate and form life out of nothing, you might as well believe in God.
Science is about finding the truth, not the answer that most accurately aligns to your theological beliefs. The THEORY of intelligent design has been peer reviewed and has been found wanting, just as the THEORY of evolution has. Darwin was a christian and it pained him that his study didn't align with his faith, yet he continued his work in search of the truth. Proponents of intelligent design are invariably christian in faith, and seek only to drive a theological wedge into atheist science. God or no god, Intelligent Design doesn't seek to answer any scientific question, and is a useless argument scientifically - but not theologically. Therefore, it *IS* about god!
I love the part about “And these idiots make a fuss over a few whales…” cause I am American and I can't stand that Whale war show, freaking eco-terrorists.
The thing is I am usually the type of guy who wants to attack both sides of something. I hate atheist and religious people equally, both sides think their right, neither side can prove it and both think I give a shit... which I don't. Oh and guess what I live in the bible belt too.
religion= faith
science(evolution)=facts
YOu need them both in life.
"There is no science without religion, and there is no religion without science," Albert Einstein.
Too bad he didn't stick around long enough to watch Quantum Physics turn into scientific religion...
i dont
Believing in God might not be very logical, but it does not inherently make one a stupid person. Not believing in God might be more logical, but it does not inherently make one a smart person. I don't personally believe in God, and being associated with the kind of high-and-mighty genius assholes in these comments makes me sick.