One of Japan’s top generals and the former chief of staff of its air force has used the memorial day of the Hiroshima atomic bombing to hold a lecture in Hiroshima demanding Japan maintain its own nuclear deterrent, lest she be bombed a third time by the likes of China or North Korea.
Lieutenant General (or Air Marshal) Toshio Tamogami gave a lecture to 1300 people on the 64th anniversary of the bombing, advocating a Japanese pursuit of nuclear armaments:
“To avoid being atomic bombed a third time, the normal way of thinking about this is that we should pursue our own nuclear armament.”
Toshio Tamogami himself is no stranger to controversy, having been sacked from his position as chief of staff of the Air Self Defence Force for irritating nearby countries by arguing that Japan should not be considered one of the belligerent nations of WWII.
Hiroshima’s notoriously leftist city administration is unhappy the day’s pacifist theatrics were disturbed by a note of realism, with the mayor having tried to get the lecture date changed “so as not to increase the sadness of the bereaved as they mourn the spirits of the dead.”
Calls for a revision of Japan’s Constitution to allow a more robust ability to defend itself in the face of regional tensions are increasingly heard in the ruling LDP, though for the moment no politicians openly advocate an independent nuclear deterrent.
With North Korea having threatened to kill 40 million Japanese in a nuclear strike, and with the ever increasing military build-up in China, it seems likely that paying billions to maintain American bases in Japan with no absolute guarantee of American intervention will become increasingly hard for Japanese politicians to justify…
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If not nukes they should build N2 mines.
Japan doesn't need nuclear weapons, it just need some WoMD (Weapons of Moe Distraction)
They need loli battle machines.
Oh my god, you've just invented a whole new genre of weaponary
Why should they process nukes if they already have Evas?
Nukes/N2s are cheap, evas are expensive.
From what I hear, even giving an eva a new paint job is expensive as hell.
and you have to contain them using ayanami's sweat.
all hail luleouch!!!sakuradite is all his!!!>:D fuck im gonna cry watching that anime T.T damn nice story though
What Japan needs is Gundam, and I mean all the Gundams from the first series which is Mobile Suit Gundam series up to the current which is Gundam 00
sure spend billions of dollars/yen on suit that might not work as we expect it to and worse if they even make one thats it one because maintaining such machines also require billions. This machine can also be one of the biggest target to smash by tanks that can hide behind houses while this machine can only hide effectively behind skyscrapers .
I wish what he really said was: We must acquire nuclear-powered mechas.
what they need is emperor lelouch and lots of knightmares and 10 sakuradites :D
you forgot about the FLEIA
Why would they need nukes when they've got all that sakuradite?
can never be too careful.
If they want nukes then why did they even bother building that gundam?
as a carrier for nuke arsenal...
and as the bearer of Japan's military supremacy...
Doesn't he remember the laws the were created by the USA so japan never creates war again they dont even a army any more and any way the usa would defend japan if north korea attacks
What the hell are you talking about?America originally said no military , but then said you can have a "self defense force".
ncw in your generals ass!
Nobody will attack you if you own nuclear bombs.
but they will steal it. right under your nose though
Oh gawd...This is how the nuclear apocalypse is gonna start.Anyone ever play Fallout 3?This is evidence that it will happen.Unless there are 0 surviors,and we all get Nuclearly fucked.
Mankind is prone to tyranny (and submission). We are also S&M enthusiasts at heart. Accept that.
Man saying that on the anniversary of history's first nuclear attack. That guy's got balls as big as Selvaria's boobs.
all they need is GN drive...
me more prefer neutron jammer canceller... hahahah...
They'll make Gundam .
no they'll make macrosses and thus the macross age shall begin. ang macross city will be in Japan.
Many people don't realize this, Japan is actually the fifth most funded military in the world. It is second in Asia only below China. Japan does not need nukes to defend itself against North Korea. If it wanted to, it can increase its air force capability from defense to more of an attack capacity. I do believe in selective preemptive strike for Japan when dealing with North Korea.
Building nukes is crazy for Japan, who are they going to lob it at? North Korea? China (especially China) and Russia would have serious issues with a nuke attack so close to their lands. The nuke fallout could even affect South Korea. If Japan ever launches nukes at China, well it would mean total obliteration for Japan when China nukes back. We all know how small and densely populated Japan is.
When Japan has come clean about its brutal past in WWII and nut jobs like this General aren't in power, then maybe one day, if at all, Japan will be ready for nuclear weapons
How about no, it's not like America AGREED TO PROTECT YOU.
they did actually. ^_^
Never happen. Developing nuclear weapon alone costs shitload of money. We're not talking about millions of dollars but billions of dollars. Also keeping it functional and SAFE will drag another millions out of budget. Russia keeps only 20% of it's nukes functional, and still plans to scrap most of them, since that simply kills their millitary budget (though they stopped this for now, because of this US missile defence system). And no, few nukes won't do anything more than attract unnessesary attention. They would need at least Israeli-size nuclear pottential (around 80 nukes). I hardly see Japanese goverments wasting such money for some empire-wannabe generels. And, unlike "We are peaceful society, lololol" this is real argument why local hardhead generals won't get these toys for sure.
True. The general probably wants to have nukes to boost his street cred. Just think of South Park's Cartman.
Besides, there is not much of a reason for N Korea to attack Japan. Japan's economy, though stagnant for quite some time, is still vital for the world. And despite what N Korea says about the capitalist pigs,I bet they are secretly planning to open up.
Now I only worry about China. Being an important world leader, its time it buckle up and act like a respectable leader instead of being the school bully.
Japan is the second richest in the world and is the cradle of the latest tech. If they learn to develop nuclear weapons, think about how much improvement will happen and how much deadlier Japan will be. Also, Japan can spend money if they want to, they're one of the world's leading lenders of money. developing nuclear weapons will not be a problem for them when they have the thing they need, money and brains. Japanese are the most intelligent people in the world, their IQ average for every people is about 110 and they have the money to develop nukes. they can use subs to keep these weapons, just like the US trident subs.
I don't see why not. I mean, they say it's gonna be for deterrent purposes. What makes Japan different from any other countries anyway? I mean, aside from the fact that their defeat in World War II has made them into a country that is hell-bent on selling us the latest iteration of Sony and Nintendo's latest console?
They have no place to hide their missile silos. With MIRVs a single missile can carry up to 12 warheads. If a nation intends to do so, they can carpet bomb Japan with just a few missiles. It is quite unlikely that their nuclear launching infrastructures would survive if the attack is not apprehended before hand. By stationing them in submarines would theoretically allow for a second strike but it's a big if, and Japan would be inevitably destroyed anyways. Small nations aren't meant for nukes(with Israel being an exception, well they're Jews).
actually. I think the launch sites will be immune to nuclear attacks. that's how the Us works. Their silos are underground are actually housing hundreds of ICBMs, there are about a thousand silos spread in USA and can be moved from one place to another in case that some of the silos get affected even though they were built to resist nuclear strikes. I think Japan would do the same.
Quoting Fallout 3: War... war never changes.
Or is it even more direct to the point to say: Humans... humans never changes.
The world turns and spins and always ends up in the same place.
It's pretty simple: Human stupidity will never cease to exist, it's proven humanity never learn from it's mistakes, so it's innevitable that one day we'll end up being the cause of our own extinction.
We create weapons with the potential to destroy Earth thousands of time over, but we claim it's for our own protection.
Innevitably, one day, one of those weapons will end up falling in wrong hands, they will be used, and we will all be screwed by them, because of a very simple fact: BECAUSE THEY EXIST.
Unfortunately, with warmongers like Bush and this guy, there's no other way for them to learn how bad having nuclear weapons is other than they experiencing an attack of said weapons themselves.
And humanity, as history passes and people forgets about WWII will end up needing another war to remember how bad things get.
The only question is: Will Earth survive WWIII? Will humanity survive? And do our kind really deserves to?
Nukes are crude. They just attract unwanted attention and at most times cause unwanted results. Work on something original and stop copying the world Japan xp
If anyone bombs our allies (including japan) we will fuck them up! America ain't perfect but when it come's to our allies we don't fuck around.
Japan want to bomb US cities as a revenge of Hiroshima.....
Dear Japan,
Hahaha...no.
Sincerely,
USA
You mean Sincerely, Anonymous. Considering you don't represent the entirety of the USA,just yourself.
Hell, he doesn't even represent all the anonymous' so he can just suck himself.
I don't think that's really necessary anyway with the American troops stationed there. If they screwed with Japan then America would screw them right back.
Either way, read the mood. (not that the US ambassador to Japan did such a bang-up job with that subject either)
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"""it seems likely that paying billions to maintain American bases in Japan with no absolute guarantee of American intervention will become increasingly hard for Japanese politicians to justify…"""
Wait what? I thought they HAD to protect them. Isn't that one of the core values in the US/Japan relationship set up immediately after WWII
If ever they build and launched nukes, some country with nukes will launch the double of what Japan had launched. Then he'll realize it's a big mistake to do so.
Suddenly, every unemployed weeaboo that browses this website is a nuclear physicist and/or politician. Go figure...
They should just figure out how to make RL minosky particles then they could rule the world as the only country to have secretly mastered mobile suit technology.
Why all of a sudden to acquire nuclear armaments in Japan? It will not benefit to any party who need to take care of the high expenses the the nuke bear or to blow it and nations suffer. I think all of these nuclear weapons building should be stop to avoid world war III which is not fought by men but at the press of a button.
Is acquiring nuclear weapons really the best option?
They'd have to test it somewhere,and testing it on native soil(as a few countries have done) probably wouldn't sit well with the citizens. There may be other deterrents that can be used that wouldn't leave the affected area unable to support life for thousands of years that could be used(as for what they are,I don't know).
Considering north korea's latests threats, I really cannot blame japan one bit for wanting to protect their country.
Nuclear testing is prohibited by international agreements and policies so even if Japan decided to build their own nuclear armaments they wouldn't be able to test it.
North Korea violated such and therefore is subject to so much heat by the international community.
Japan would still be able to acquire nuclear armaments from allies, or be capable of producing their own with a clear certainty/aid that they would work.
This is stupied, didn't russia recently agree state that if china were to destroy all of there nukes they would do the same? We should be moving towards destroying nukes and here this dude is asking for there own? I smell another cold war...
No, they almost certainly did not. Russia is not stupid enough to want to disarm. Neither is the PRC. Then again, both are not dangerously unstable.
And unilaterally disarming nukes is an dangerously naive idea. Even bilateral disarmament is not all that smart of an idea is the other parties are not particularly trustworthy - this is the same Russia that has threatened nuclear attacks on Poland within the last year for the Poles agreeing to have American missile defenses on their soil.
After read all the comments, i think we must remember motto of Vash the Stempede "Love & Peace". hope WW3 never happend
0o.. scary scary.. they already won the media warfare. brainwashed so many kids.. We must forgive but please dont forget about the past !!
forget = WW3 !
Forget=Crispy earth
Forget = zero survival rate
Gundams and psychic schoolgirls are not enough as deterrence eh?
ニュートロンジャマー
a japanese general? since when did they have an army?
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Nukes are overrated. They need to spend more of their time and energy on getting those gundams built.
Niiceeee somebody is using my name! How funny!
this
PLENTY of countries beg for us bases. mainly ones worried about invasion. Places like Poland, the Philippines and Japan ask and lobby for it.
Personally i think we should go home because it would save TONS of money and it's honestly not our business. War should only be in self defense or to stop genocide.
Nukes are an oddly good deterrent. It's why we never attacked mainland china during Korea and Vietnam like the psycho generals wanted. Its basic Dr. Strangelove theory. If both sides possess a doomsday device you get a Mexican standoff and therefor world peace forever... or until someone gets really drunk.
Actually, we did briefly go into China after taking the capital of N. Korea during the forgotten war, which is why the Chinese got involved and pushed us back. If it weren't for McArthur that disobeyed Truman's orders not to do it, there wouldn't be such a thing as a "divided" Korea today.
You know shit about a global economy then.
If US minds it's own business and all of it's allies that make money and goods appear in it are gone, what do we do then?
Well, now we go to full on war or just wait to be attacked as our country declines.
If Japan ever does go through with getting their own nuclear armament, I'd officially say they fail History FOREVER. :|
I can understand how having such belligerent neighbors can ruffle feathers, but that gives those strutting attention whores what they want. To get noticed by the rest of the World.
what country doesnt want nuclear weapons?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southeast_Asian_Nuclear-Weapon-Free_Zone_Treaty
More then you think.
I don't know but I doubt that any country in that area ( China, Korea or Japan ) can really know that they are being bombed with more than 5 minutes of anticipation. A nuke will be over their capital in less time that a guy faps.
Cheers;
Nick
PS: Japan, Dedicate yourself to making VN and great Animes/Mangas.
Even though some have intentions of defending themseleves, as far as anyone knows it, those nuclear weapons are still dangerous. The kind of power that the nuclear weapons is one of those reasons why some other countries want to have it and don't let it go.
finally.i been waiting for this for a long time.all the money they pay america to station troops in japan is only harming it.after they guild their nukes they better get started on building some nuclear powered gundams
We already gave them two, how many more can they want? WTF?
i say they need nukes....
for the war against agnes-chan!
for real now:
german militarys said the same thing back in the 50-60s... something like "tactical nukes are anyway just an evolitionary step of artillery, lets get nukes!"
the german people didnt wanted it, so we didnt got nukes...
exept the american b61 nukes that are stationen in germany, lol... some in our airforce bases, most in the american one(rammstein)...
i´d say the same thing is going to happen in japan...
btw. germany and japan have the strongest none nuclear military in the world...
lol... my english is really bad... sorry!
I would think arming Japan with nukes would provoke North Korea even more. Lets face it, Kim Jong-Il is not the brightest or the most reasonable person in the world. He has already threatened a rain of nuclear fire on the US with out having any missiles that can reach the US. I doubt he would show more reason with a nuclear armed Japan.
If I was Japan I would be looking more into the United States direct energy weapons that can shoot down a missile from miles away. And if North Korea ever launches any kind of attack on Japan, the US would retaliate almost instantly.
they should hurry making MS
someone already made it until RX-03
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=At52Sd7rvAs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8el7Iuaw3Q&feature=related [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8el7Iuaw3Q&feature=related]
the maker made the robot because of gundam, that's why the series begin with RX
nice pic, as usual.
Naturally a nuclear arsenal would be far more useful to Japan than increased domestic demand.
You would think all those attacks by Godzilla would teach them a thing or two about nuclear weapons.
I symphatize with General Tamogami, but I do hope, if his government pursued this "nucular arms" powah that he wants, I hope Japan be not another aggressor nation just like almost 60+ years ago. But I don't think Japan will be like that, she has learned the lessons of history. :)
Militarism... -_-
bullshit. we still have no idea if japan will be an aggressive nation. the only reason why they're not a threat today is because we've all got our guns pointed at them if they so much as even try to build a military
AMEN. don't be so rude. opinions are most likely welcome. thank you. :)
I doubt it would improve Japan's defence much. A deterrent only works if the other side cares. I don't think North Korea's leaders would mind losing a few million peasants.
No, but as demented and shit crazy the senile dictator over there is, he certainly don't wants to die.
Eh, he's got his own fallout bunker with food, drink, movies and lolli's.
He'll live.
Get your own Nukes Japan. I'd love for them to drop the Nuclear Bukkake on Tiny Kim Jong Ill. Fuck Yeah!
I don't think they'll get nukes. I think they're gonna build up a huge space station in outer space. secretly evacuate all the Japanese and blow up the whole world. Genesis is the right word for this...
The biggest diplomatic threat to Japan if they acquire nukes is not North Korea, but Red China. It's also why any American notion of deploying short-range tactical nukes near North Korea always fall through. If China wasn't there, America would have two dozen nuclear submarines just prowling around North Korea on a daily basis.
what makes you think they are not.
Japanese Nuke Bukkake (Nukekake) rained down on Red China would be awesome too. I understand they keep their Loli's down over there.
Stupid military. Did this guy forgot that it was Japan who engaged US first in WW2 ?
Don't start a pointless who started who / who did more horrific crimes... debate..
~_~..
Rape of Nanking, Bataan Death March, Second Sino-Japanese War, Three Alls Policy, Okinawan Mass-Suicide Orders, Pearl Harbor, etc.
The Empire of Japan started the war. Japan engaged the Asian mainland countries, Pacific Islands and then finally the United States. Japan clearly started the war and the United States clearly ended it.
I love Japanese culture, but I also have to accept the truth about its sick and twisted history.
They started shit in the Pacific that their xenophobia and pride hasn't quite let them live down. Making matters worse, what with Japan's huge problem with textbook revisionism, this Tamogami guy thinks Japan has some sort of moral high ground to wield nuclear weaponry? Japan's political apologism aside, and with the latest xenophobic statistics released by Sankaku on the Japanese dislike of Asian countries, I think Japan's in a terrible moral position to even CONSIDER nuclear weaponry.
I guess it goes to show that all that sakoku and military belligerence still hasn't died in the old Japanese bones. >=\
No sir, I've loved and studied Japanese culture/language/anime/manga for well over 10 years now. I used to excuse away Japan's actions during WWII, but reality is reality, you just can't run from the truth, you've gotta' accept it and learn from it. They say Germany remembers too much, and Japan too little, about WWII. It's a travesty there are still some Japanese who carry such a militaristic spirit.
i dont care about these things.
but i think youre biased against japan
People say that the US with its allies did everything to provoke Japan to do the attack. They also had the information that it would happen days before Pearl Harbour and notified no one there. They seem to have been successful if you really believe the history books without causality checking this blindly.
Yeah, well, and Hitler was Roosevelt's close friend, and acted entirely on his instructions. The end result was supposed to make US a hero nation for decades, disregarding the millions of lives sacrificed. Which happened. Even the fact that Russian role in victory over Germany was just as immensive as US's wasnt made public in the US. I can tell you all 'bout conspiracies.
And here you have a perfect example of someone saying stupid brainless shit. Thank you Riiku, now go attend to your tinfoil hat collection.
This anon obviously does not understand sarcasm.
Yeah well people say a lot of stupid shit, it dose not make it true. The fact is Japan attacked the United States because the US stop selling its oil to Japan because of Japans attacks on French Indochina.
And save the conspiracy theorists for someone who gives a shit.