Vippers vs Vankers: 2ch Targets “Korean Propaganda”

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2ch has taken the unusual step of fighting back against the wicked Korean fifth column it believes is behind most of the ills of Japanese society by producing some English language propaganda of its own, targeted at American anime fans.

The document was mailed to at least one North American university anime club, and identifies itself as the handiwork of the Vippers – denizens of 2ch’s “VIP” board, which is known even on 2ch for its eccentric and activist character.

Aside from being a surprisingly thorough outline of some of the less crazed claims which 2ch endlessly fulminates over (and which were largely responsible for a series of large-scale anti-Fuji TV demonstrations in 2011), the document is presented in unusually good English (for 2ch at least) and appears to have been quite carefully prepared.

The veracity of the claims made is another matter – they range from the usual xenophobic delusions of foreign infiltration beloved of the Internet right, to some rather more well-founded concerns about the supposed efforts of Korean nationalists to stealthily advance their national interests in Japan and beyond, and the distressingly obvious lack of reliable politicians and media Japan is afflicted by.

Whatever the truth behind their claims, they do at least give English speakers a great deal of insight into the thinking current across much of the Japanese Internet.

The letter and accompanying materials:

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    Comment by Anonymous
    22:33 11/02/2012 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    These guys are fucking retarded....

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:50 12/02/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    no, they have a point in several areas... but there are allot of dilutions too.

    japan is to sensitive about nuke anything, so disregard EVERY comment they ever make about that. it would like ameriaca hating japan and germany irrationally because of shit that happened over 70~ years ago

    japan is also to focuses on that korea as a government is putting these people in place, and not just these people getting there on their own and wanting a more pro korea attitude than fuck korea and fuck them hard that the internet wants.

    all mass media is corrupt, in america was sopa even fucking covered by ANYONE out side of a "this gets rid of piracy google, what the fuck are you against it for" that was on the today show.

    now about how easy it is for imagrants to take advantage of the system... we have that in america too. people come for collage, can get grants easily and fuck off back to their country after collage.

    japanese politics is also a very corrupt area, as is the poliece, and the education is very retarded in my opinion too, not the content, but the people.

    japan, you have more problems than what koreans are doing, fix those first.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:49 14/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    There's also the thing were stupid people breed, which would be fine if it was possible to educate children from poor parents who don't know the first things about upbringing. Which is of course impossible. Due to various circumstances.

    Besides, did memorizing stuff ever made someone smarter? is exactly what is wrong with school.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:27 12/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Your post makes me sad for the future of humanity in general.

    In more ways than one.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:39 12/02/2012 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    I stoppped reading at "we japaneese are not racists" yeah right I am not buying that.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:44 14/02/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    It's (most probably) true they have an issue about koreans in media, but most 2ch and especially the neto-yu are becoming too paranoid to take righteous action, they now have become a censoring force rather than a free-speech one.

    They need to clean corruption in japanese government and civil structure first, then remove biasing of japanese against foreigners if they want any help from overseas. Then will be when saying "we japanese are not racist" will be taken more seriously

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:37 15/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    thank you person with sence

    Did they even proof-read what they blab about or do they believe they are so "righteous" in every way possible that they couldnt even bring themselves the consider the probability of being ever slightly wrong in so many different aspects???

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    Comment by cats2
    13:50 13/02/2012 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Somebody needs to tell them that the "average western anime fan" is a mother fucker that loves dubs because they "Don't want to read!"

    No way they would read those..

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    Comment by RedRat
    03:18 18/02/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Average russian anime fan hates dub! Everybody who listen instead of reading anime called here a "ignorant morons". We are still "most reading country in the world". :-)

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:10 12/02/2012 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Foreign influences far outweight Japanese original culture (have you seen any Japanese wearing kimonos lately?). Not only are 2ch being paranoid, but also hypocrites.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:01 14/02/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Exactly. I don't see them complaining about all the American pop culture they readily consume among others. I liked the part where he emphasized "Japanese are not racist..". He should have added, "..except for the Koreans and Chinese."

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:25 12/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well i saw hundreds of girls in Kimono at last years Hanami.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:53 12/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    I get the feeling that it's popular to year traditional clothing during festivals.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:09 12/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    I have! They're older ladies though...

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    Comment by RedRat
    03:13 18/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    My young japanese friend from Tokyo wore a kimono... well, once... in Moscow. ;-)

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:18 12/02/2012 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Wait, "guilty of pro-Japan" in Korea?

    I thought in Japan there is "guilty of pro-non-Japan"??

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:25 12/02/2012 # ! Good (+0.8)

    We are fighting ACTA, SOPA, PIPA. And the Japanese otakus care about this?

    I don't even wonder anymore why Japan wanted to get through with ACTA...

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:49 12/02/2012 # ! Good (+0.8)

    If 2ch is any indicator...They would support such acts with gusto.

    Funny thing is; Japanese Otakudom involves doujins, AMV's, PV's and all sorts of memes from niconico etc...Ironically if ACTA goes into full swing that part of thier otakudom can say bye bye.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:49 12/02/2012 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    It's not that they support it, it's just that unlike Americans and Europeans Japanese are too much of a bunch of pussies to do anything about it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:53 14/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    What do you expect from a race where the strong willed people killed themselves over hundreds of years leaving only spineless ones behind?

    Comment by Anonymous

    Kinda like you, eh?

    Comment by Anonymous

    Americans and Europeans have been enslaved by the Jew. Fix THAT before you talk.

    rediscover911.com/who-did-911

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:17 12/02/2012 # ! Good (+0.5)

    Not to mention a lot of them are lolicons and/or shotacons. If conservatives return to power in Japan, those genres will also go bye bye.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:16 12/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    @11:11 Anon: Varying cultures. Respect them.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:11 12/02/2012 # ! Drivel (-0.8)

    Good Riddance. Fuck that pedo shit.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:24 13/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    I like this guy's(Anon 00:49) comment. Every time one of those bills try to get by I worry about losing those AMVs I like so much. The very AMVs that made me buy that anime and buy that CD.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:22 12/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    I haven't met one Japanese person who knows about SOPA.

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    Comment by Artefact
    18:05 12/02/2012 # ! Transparent

    Most of them don't support piracy, so it isn't a hot topic amongst them.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:53 11/02/2012 # ! Good (+0.8)

    Dear 2ch:

    We don't give a fuck.

    Sincerely,
    Normal people.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:22 12/02/2012 # ! Good (+0.5)

    Yeah seriously WTF 2ch, at this rate you might even be worse than America at thinking how you guys are the whole world or something.

    Fucking hell, give it a fucking rest and go do something more important for yourselves and your country. The reason why your society is getting worse is yourselves, especially if all you guys do is bitch about meaningless things.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:33 12/02/2012 # ! Drivel (-1.0)

    You seem to be bitching about something quite meaningless yourself.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:11 11/02/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    wait there's a normal person here!?!?!?

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:17 11/02/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    With how Sancom is overrun with trolls, ignorance, or just plain stupidity, I find it quite hard to believe.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:39 12/02/2012 # ! Good (+0.8)

    it really isn't racism. more like nationalism maybe? i don't know. but in order for it to be racism, koreans and japanese have to be of different race, which they are not. in any case, japan does that kind of crap all the time. it's just more apparent with koreans and chinese because these two countries actually possess ability to be competitive against japan. in either case, the more they are like that, the less likely others are willing to do business with them, and the bigger handicap they will have against korea and china.

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    Comment by Imyou
    03:56 12/02/2012 # ! Good (+0.7)

    @Anonymous

    Are you sure? Akihito himself claims to have Korean blood [http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/dec/28/japan.worlddispatch]... but speaking of media coverups in Japan, that probably didn't get a lot of press.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:41 11/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    @Shippoyasha No, it's like looking in the mirror. There's just as much racism here.

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    Comment by Shippoyasha
    22:32 11/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    It might be telling that even Sancom looks saintly against 2ch's worst racist epithets.

    Comment by Anonymous

    "i don't know. but in order for it to be racism, koreans and japanese have to be of different race, which they are not."

    Yes,you don't know and this is very offensive you should rethink this comment.

    We are not Korean,

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    Comment by Shippoyasha

    At least over here, there's a little more of a counter-point. If I try doing a counterpoint over there, I get totally crushed by the negative responses (Happened several times now).

    I don't know about any Sancom invasions to 2ch either. It's always the other way around.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:32 12/02/2012 # ! Drivel (-1.0)

    Silly asians

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:25 14/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Vippers,

    Prepare your tin foil hats for the onslaught!!!

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:38 15/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    hahahaha this is a gem of a comment.

    Japan sort out your own countries problems first and then we'll see what happens

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:18 11/02/2012 # ! Drivel (-0.8)

    Sancom user consider himself normal.
    You people are bunch of hypocrites sancom is white opposite of 2ch.
    You are all bunch of retards.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:46 11/02/2012 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Your english is not that good friend.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:06 12/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    You do realize that you're writing on Sancom right now, doesn't that make you a retard aswell? :O

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:36 12/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Haters will always hate.
    Well, Most of SanCom exclude me are some retard racists who always think that they are better than others.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:15 12/02/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Because you are not in any way putting yourself above others with that very statement.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:33 11/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Wellcome then!

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:57 12/02/2012 # ! Drivel (-1.0)

    The hell you talking about? Have you not noticed that anything that so much criticize Japan is downvoted to oblivion? It's more like SanCom is being overun by 2ch tards that have nothing better to do than to defend Japan every second.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:12 12/02/2012 # ! Drivel (-1.0)

    Herro Jappo-san. You engrish no good. Honorable sorry.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:08 11/02/2012 # ! Good (+0.8)

    So what I am supposed to be looking for again?










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