Save Miku: Hatsune Miku YouTube Videos Deleted En Masse

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Hatsune Miku fans everywhere are being rallied to the virtual diva’s defence – parties unknown have been waging an underhanded campaign against her on YouTube, by filing fraudulent copyright claims against her videos in an effort to get all her songs deleted.

The campaign of mass deletions has been orchestrated against Hatsune Miku and Vocaloid songs hosted on YouTube’s various international sites, targeting translated versions.

Popular Vocaloid videos which were many years old and had accumulated millions of views have been deleted as a result of the action.

The deletions have been requested by a variety of suspicious parties nobody has ever heard of – names featured include “Media Interactive Inc” (who were apparently implicated in the deletion of Lady Gaga’s YouTube account) and variations on the name of “Junichi Sasa” (笹純一, 笹金純一, 笹川純一, 笹村純一, etc.).

As the copyright for all original Hatsune Miku songs normally rests with the original creator, not with any company affiliated with Yamaha, Crypton or the record company mafia (except the minority of songs professionally published by these companies themselves), none of these deletions can be considered as anything but fraudulent.

Japanese Miku fans have already organised a counter-effort in the hopes of uncovering who is behind the deletions, including an English language missive:

Someone who doesn’t like Hatsune Miku getting popular in the world is deleting her high ranked videos with English titles on it by making fake reports that the videos are infringing a copyright.
We don’t know who is doing this.
The series of these acts may be caused by organized group(s).
It is under investigation by Miku fan volunteers.
If your video is deleted by a fake report, please submit a counter-notification here: http://p.tl/hZW6
To all Vocaloid fans, Let’s get her back. Don’t give up.

All this is possible because YouTube allows unverified third parties to issue takedown notices on any content they host, which usually results in a swift deletion of the video which can only be reversed by a counter-notification.

For takedowns based on the DMCA, providers actually have a legal obligation to restore content if the uploader files a counter-notification objecting to the takedown (for example, by pointing out that the notifier does not actually hold the copyright or have the authority to act on behalf of the owner), at which point the notifier must file a lawsuit in the US or drop the matter and leave the content alone.

Not only is filing a lawsuit expensive, in the case of fraudulent or dubious claims the notifier will have perjured themselves by lying to the court about owning the copyright, possibly a rather more serious matter than the supposed infringement itself.

Unfortunately, not only are most people unaware of this aspect of DMCA usage and easily intimidated by legalistically phrased intimidation, reliably ensuring the original uploader goes to the trouble of filing a counter-notification every time one of their works are subjected to a predatory takedown is a difficult matter, particularly with older content.

Takedowns in other countries may be subject to wildly differing legal requirements, complicating matters even further.

The suspicion online is that the takedowns are politically motivated – there has been some recent high-profile competition between Korean pop groups (the “popularity” of whom is suspected to be the result of organised promotion by Korean nationalists) and Hatsune Miku (who has the earnest support of anime-fans everywhere).

This rivalry recently crystallised in the form of a pointless ranking of groups “which should perform at the London Olympics” (in fact the ranking had no official status whatsoever, a fact which was apparently almost totally lost on both raving Korean and Japanese nationalists and fervent Miku fans).

Thanks to the competing efforts of 4chan, 2ch, and the Koreans, the ranking ended up being topped by Miku, followed by a variety of obscure Korean starlets, a point of pride for deluded right-wing Japanese and probably quite vexing to Korean nationalists who fancy their nation a pop super-power.

Although 2ch is notorious for xenophobically blaming Koreans for every ill it can think of, in this case it is hard to see why else anyone would bother trying to damage Miku’s popularity, as the fraud does not seem to be intended as a shakedown and the “posing as Japanese to do something bad” tactic has apparently often been employed in such Japan-Korea nationalist spats:

“It’s probably some dirty Korean.”

“Nobody but some Korean scumbag would bother to do something this retarded.”

“This will be something to do with that London Olympics stuff…”

“Right – #1 was Miku, the rest were all K-POP.”

“Abusing copyright is a typical Korean ploy. All they can do is copy things and claim them as their own.”

“This is probably more theatrics orchestrated by the net-uyo!”

“Somebody was doing the same thing to AKB videos…”

“They are really going to turn the world against them when this comes out!”

“More of those peninsulars squandering their taxes on promoting K-POOP!”

“It could be a 2ch board – some of them are packed with Miku-haters.”

“YouTube should at least publicise the IP of people who request scores of deletions.”

“Just report all the K-POOP on there using the same name.”

“But all the Koreans loeve Miku just like we do! Believe in them, please.”

“Try searching for ‘VANK’ – you’ll see.”

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“This stuff is the shame of Japan, thank god it is being deleted!”

“This is obviously their way of getting back against Miku after she beat all their stupid K-POP groups on that Olympic ranking.”

“As usual, one of their ‘fake Japanese’ tricks.”

“Ahhh – they deleted Crucify by Megurine Luka as well!”

“If they get reported 3 times the user loses their whole account and all their uploads get deleted… this is dreadful.”

“I think this is just haters.”

“The only ones who benefit from all this are Koreans. If you don’t say this, North Americans will never get what is behind all this. They’ll just think it is Miku-ota vs some annoying copyright body. They won’t care.”

“As there is no actual proof of this, constantly saying it will only call your position into doubt.”

“This is a mistake. The videos are being deleted, and they are uploading copies with their own rip-off Vocaloid and pretending they were Korean to start with. They are scrupulously disguising their nationality by using other languages. Tell people what is going on and let them make up their own minds as to who is behind this.”

“You shouldn’t keep mentioning that country. You have to ignore them and avoid making this into another big issue.”

“Somebody tell the guys at 4chan about what those Korean bastards are up to! Can’t anyone here write English properly!?”

“Forget 4chan – don’t expect anything from them, they prefer just to watch.”

“Leave them out of this! You don’t know what they’ll do!”

“4chan never helped with that ranking – that’s just lies. They have no interest in Vocaloids over there.”

“Don’t involve them – it’s a big mistake to think they like the Japanese. And involving them is just like the tactics a certain country uses. If they decide to help, fine, but don’t try and drag them in.”

“Try using Facebook, forums and YouTube to raise awareness of this instead.”

“Don’t forget to complain to Google and YouTube about their system being abused like this.”

“Are you people morons? 4chan came in and ruined their efforts to stack that ranking with Koreans. This issue will not be resolved by avoiding any mention of who is responsible.”

“They know how Koreans do things, and came in and helped with the ranking. Trying to avoid any mention of ‘that country’ will only make it look like a copyright issue.”


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    Comment by Anonymous
    16:58 02/02/2012 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    You'd think they might try to fix the DMCA given how obnoxiously it is being abused. Can't have that though, the big media corporations might actually have to think before acting and we can't have that now, can we?

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:37 02/02/2012 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    fix? abusive?
    welcome to the American government. With such a split house, no mention will be even heard on the house floor.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:55 03/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    What government?

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:16 02/02/2012 # ! Good (+0.6)

    Anon 16:58:

    It's not *just* the DCMA, it's also YouTube's internal technical and policy mechanisms.

    For more info on what YouTube's been doing, and what your options with them (and other video-content-hosting companies) are if your video is pulled, check out:

    http://www.fairusetube.com

    I suppose the take-aways are:

    - Always have your own backups.

    - If your material lives on YouTube's servers, that material is subject to YouTube's whims. The same is true with any corporation.

    Niconico, here I come...

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    Comment by boneless
    19:44 02/02/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    http://www.fairusetube.org

    Just some time ago, haters were waging war on My Little Pony videos. Now every third YT upload is pony-related.

    Pretty sure the net effect will be the same here: no escape from Miku!

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    Comment by JSRF
    16:47 02/02/2012 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Haters gonna hate.

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    Comment by Yoshii-kun
    19:08 02/02/2012 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    They can try but they'll never win.
    She exists in all of us.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:11 04/02/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    *Manly Tears*

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:50 04/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    TM

    trademark

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:09 06/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    well said

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:34 03/02/2012 # ! Good (+0.6)

    Madness?

    THIS!

    IS!

    MIKU!!!

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:13 03/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    NOOOOOOO! *falls into the pit*

    j/k ^^

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:29 04/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    I have had several of my youtube accounts deleted on more than one occasion...and my last channel prior to my nexest one had over 250,000 total (video) views.

    All because of "All this is possible because YouTube allows unverified third parties to issue takedown notices on any content they host, which usually results in a swift deletion of the video which can only be reversed by a counter-notification."

    I now back up all my uploaded videos.
    I put up a lot of music remix videos on youtube, and my most recent channel already has 1 strike against b/c of some unknown entity claimed that my remix "video infirnged on their copyright".

    The worst part is, they didn't even tell me who filed the claim against me.

    . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

    The same crap is happening on DailyMotion as well.

    At least DM doesn't delete your account; they just notify you if a video infringes on copyrighted material, and tell you to remove it ASAP.

    I do agree...have a back-up of all videos submitted to youtube or anyother video-sharing site.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:50 02/02/2012 # ! Drivel (-1.0)

    And lovers gonna fap?

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:03 03/02/2012 # ! Drivel (-1.0)

    Fappeers gonna Fap

    Comment by Anonymous

    FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FUCK YEAH MIKU!

    Comment by Anonymous

    Fapping feels great!

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:43 03/02/2012 # ! Drivel (-1.0)

    Fappers gonna love.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:55 02/02/2012 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Deleting everything from youtube even if we have nothing to do with it?
    Sounds like Sony music.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:40 02/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    ヽ(  ̄д ̄;)ノ Second this. My Old account got taken down because of them even though I had audio swapped.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:05 04/02/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    File a counter-notification to YouTube if you think your vid was taken down by some kind of mistake. It should come back online in a few weeks if you succeed convincing them.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:09 02/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    I've had a Madoka parody pulled by Sony Music after it got over 10,000 views. -_- They suck balls

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:08 04/02/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    If your vid indeed had something that unfortunately violated someone's copyright, and was taken down, then, yeah, at least I feel sorry for you.

    But if you think your vid was taken down by some kind of mistake, do file a counter-notification to YouTube. It should come back online in a few weeks if you succeed convincing them. Convincing them is not a big deal at all, pretty easy.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:50 02/02/2012 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    they touched my internet now they also touched my goddess there will be blood

    17:42 02/02/2012 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Time to shove leeks up these bastards asshole.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:24 02/02/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    U mean spike leeks?

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:31 02/02/2012 # ! Good (+0.8)

    Take it slow, leeks then spike leeks next explosive leeks.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:59 02/02/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    NO. TAKE THE LEEK TO THE KNEE.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:30 04/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    "I had over 250,000 views, until I took a leek to the knee."

    Someone had to have it make sense ^_^

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:18 05/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    bastards, just release the road rollers already to show the true power of the Vocaloids already.

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    Comment by ArrowInTheKnee
    18:52 02/02/2012 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    The culprit must be organization of 3D pigs jealous of our Diva.... Soon they'll know the how much the combine might of all the believers can effect the internet and youtube

    En Taro Miku!

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:31 05/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    It's the bronies!!!

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:56 02/02/2012 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    This is WAR!

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:46 02/02/2012 # ! Drivel (-0.8)

    WAR like warhammer ? oh wait thats a logo. i get it. i am somewhere else.

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    Comment by Vincent Giannell
    16:49 02/02/2012 # ! Quality (+0.9)

    Those jerks who deleted those Miku videos will regret it.

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    Comment by Sazuko Toriyama
    10:59 03/02/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    BITCHES >_<!!!! HOW DARE THEY DELETE OUR UTA-HIME!! GO COMPLANE TO GOOGLE AND YOUTUBE RIGHT NOW! And all this right after the MikuXgoogle crome video!? WE GOTTA STOP THEM!! Weather its "koreans" "organized group" "2ch Voca-haters' oR WHO EVER!!! FIGHT!!!
    http://www.youtube.com/t/dmca_policy
    http://support.google.com/youtube/bin/request.py?contact_type=abuse
    http://support.google.com/youtube/bin/request.py?contact_type=otherlegal

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:26 06/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Start using P2P Sharing as well, to back it up to many others as well. Miku will not fall!

    Comment by Anonymous

    LET'S LYNCH THEM!!!

    18:08 02/02/2012 # ! Quality (+0.9)

    LEEK PROBE THEM!!!

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:49 02/02/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    you say leek probes and I think of Naba Chizuru...

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:15 02/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Oh, thanks a lot. Now you nade me remember the scene where Chizuru pulls out her pactio and stabs Negi in the ass with a giant leek. She held him like a corpse impaled on a spear!!!

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    Comment by The Kiss
    02:55 03/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Oh my...

    Why did I have to read the comments section?! The memories are coming back... awful memories...

    Make it go away... make it go aawaay!

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:35 02/02/2012 # ! Drivel (-1.0)

    That's aweful, even if it's them

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:12 02/02/2012 # ! Good (+0.8)

    1) We don't know if it's the Koreans. It's pure speculation.
    2) It's really YouTube's fault for allowing unverified takedowns. As long as this is possible, it will be abused.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:30 02/02/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    It's really YouTube's fault for allowing unverified takedowns. As long as this is possible, it will be abused.

    They are required to if Google wants to continue to operate in the USA.

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    Comment by NakkiNyan
    18:11 02/02/2012 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    YouTube is allowed to leave the content up until they get confirmation that the person/group that filed the DMCA take-down does indeed own copyright. The law is quite simple, they just don't want to go through the extra effort when they can just remove first, confirm later.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:51 02/02/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    "Good practice" or not, it's bullshit, especially when they are deleting videos copyrights to which has the uploader, without even spending 5 minutes on checking it, just because some unrelated asshole decided to press the "report" button.

    I mean, ok, they might be afraid, but that is taking it too far, and I don't really know why the whole SOPA/PIPA/ACTA/whatever else crap is even considered when the sole chance for them to pass makes people into paranoid assholes.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:23 04/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    No, they are not. They are required to accept the request in good faith. If they refused to do so and the request turned out to be valid, they are legally liable. If the MAFIAAs can sue teenagers for millions over a few mp3s, think what they would do to Google which has been a thorn in their eye for more than a decade now.

    Reference:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_Copyright_Infringement_Liability_Limitation_Act

    "Good practice" or not, it's bullshit, especially when they are deleting videos copyrights to which has the uploader, without even spending 5 minutes on checking it, just because some unrelated asshole decided to press the "report" button.

    One asshole pressing the report button does nothing. If enough assholes do, Google will investigate and determine weather the content should be taken down. However, they take user reports with a grain of salt just as they should.

    This is a different thing. Google has a separate non-public system to file infringement requests. Copyright holders can apply to use that system, but they are required to sign a contract with Google. Using that system lets you takedown videos immediately, but the contract has provisions against false requests. If you deliberately file false requests that way, Google can turn around and sue you for sabotaging their service.

    And by the way, it takes more than 5 minutes to determine weather a given party has the right to issue takedown requests. You can't just go to wikipedia and look it up. The courts will eat you alive if you do something as naive. It becomes even more complicated when organizations often subcontract separate entities to do the takedowns for them. You need to verify the publisher really has rights to the content with the local government, and then verify the request with the publisher itself. It may take hours to go through the bureaucratic bullshit.
    Considering the volume of infringing video uploaded on YT every day, it's infeasible to validate all of them.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:38 02/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    By removing the content they also remove there liability. So it's just good practice, according to legal.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:26 03/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    i am a paranoid asshole... and i have never uploaded a youtube video.

    i just watched to many of em.

    maybe your definition of "paranoid asshole" needs an overhaul.

    Comment by Anonymous

    "'Good practice' or not, it's bullshit, especially when they are deleting videos copyrights to which has the uploader, without even spending 5 minutes on checking it, just because some unrelated asshole decided to press the 'report' button."

    Because Americans are so good at stealing shit, 90% of the time it is copyrighted material anyway?

    If you don't like companies presuming you're all thieving bastards, don't act like them?

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:43 02/02/2012 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    No, they don't. The DMCA only states that the copyright holder can issue a takedown notice.
    It doesn't say that anyone else can just issue a random takedown notices; they have no legal standing whatsoever. In fact, in the US it is impossible for an unmandated individual or organisation (even the government) to file any sort of copyright claim or suit on behalf of someone else.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:27 04/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yes, but the publisher is not responsible for validating the request. Their only options are to comply or unleash the lawyers.

    It's a bit to expect google to fight your legal battles.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Screw the USA.
    Create the USA-net, and leave the Internet to the rest of the world.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:34 03/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Computer is invented in Germany. Google Konrad Zuse.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:41 04/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    @22:01
    The first "computer" was invented by a British man called Charles Babbage. His analytical engine is the first turing complete machine in the world.

    Computer networking was simultaneously developed in several different countries, notably the USA, UK and France. The "internet" didn't really get invented by anyone. It just sort of grew naturally around the same routing system based on the Internet Protocol (IP).

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:52 02/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Computer is invented in Europe. Research before you speak or your speech is invalid.

    Comment by Anonymous

    The internet was invented in the USA, so was the computer. Why doesn't the rest of the world make their own internet? lol

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:24 02/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    “Try searching for ‘VANK’ – you’ll see.”

    After seeing this, I did do a search for VANK... and what I see is a (comparatively) huge section about "Attack by Japanese internet users"

    Yea......

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    Comment by Artefact

    It's a dedicated Korean English language propaganda/pressure group, so naturally they control the English Wikipedia article.

    Searching in Japanese gives the opposite impression (although that is not to say that their Japanese critics are any more trustworthy or any less unsavoury).

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:29 03/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    i searched for VANK too.

    and i got a bunch of information about koreans. but not a single japanese ehm i mean.. what? fuck was not given!

    omg what did i just think ^^

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:33 02/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Something bad happened to dirty otaku fapping routine, ergo those dirty Koreans done it again.
    It's as simple as that.

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    Comment by Myballz
    18:16 02/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    A lot people know how to make false claims on DMCA before there is a video about on Youtube.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:27 02/02/2012 # ! Drivel (-0.7)

    If it sounds like what those Koreans would do, and you smell a little kimchi, it's gotta be the fucking Koreans...










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