Tokyo’s Ishihara-led government is proposing yet more onerous censorship of manga and anime, this time on the grounds that they are sexist and violate the human rights of the groups (i.e. women and children) being depicted.
From one of the Tokyo government’s latest policy documents, outlining their plans for enforcing a “gender equality” regime on the people of Tokyo:
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However, much media information is based on sexual stereotypes and frequently depicts sexual violence towards women and children, and this is one of the prime impediments to gender equality.
According to cabinet surveys, 80% of people now think there are problems with depictions of sex and violence on TV and the Internet.
Freedom of expression should be respected, but it is also necessary to adequately respect the human rights of the people being depicted to not be the subject of unpleasant sexual or violent expression in the public media.
Tokyo recently revised its ordinance for the healthy development of youth, and also established Tokyo’s duty to allow the healthy development of young people by restrictions on their Internet environment and the eradication of child pornography.
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Our policy direction:
It is necessary to demand media undertake to voluntarily censor themselves with regard to depictions of sex and violence.
Tokyo must ensure publishers and advertisers do not promote sexual discrimination.
All media must thoroughly uphold moral restrictions [on their publications].
It would appear Tokyo has finally succeeded in combining both right-wing demands for censorship on the grounds of upholding public morals and left-wing demands for censorship on feminist and “human rights” (i.e. those of the people depicted in or exposed to the expression of others) grounds.
Online there is not much surprise – it was long obvious to all but the most deluded apologists that Tokyo’s manga ban was the thin end of the wedge, and that Ishihara and company would simply keep tightening censorship until only rape novels and pornographic videos remain:
“You’re all done for!”
“Is there anything these people don’t want to ban?”
“He can’t get it up any more so all ero is banned, eh?”
“I would think most men in anime are the ones being abused.”
“Do something about him before this spreads over the rest of the country!”
“He’s senile, his policies barely make sense any more.”
“This obsession with equality – yet in practice it always means favouring women.”
“The old farts voted him in. Do something about the people of Tokyo!”
“So this means shonen, shoujo, seinen and ladies comics are all going out of print for promoting sexual discrimination.”
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See what happens when your people remain dickless?
Are they changing into western puritans?
The condition is actually called being "catholic."
Protestants are the puritans. Catholics have a lot more sexual freedom.
At least, Catholic priests do.
You got to be kidding....Actually all todays people are puritains when it comes to any form of nudity some has the "malaise" of the rigifying penis and some wants to keep their newgiven image as tough and rigidely serious.
So not wearing a condom, and having to give birth every time you conceive is sexual freedom? I think you've got it mixed up.
But what do I care, I'm an Athiest, and as such, do whatever I damn well want.
Okay you know what? This is actually getting funny now. This is the best troll ever Ishihara! Let's see how far you can take it before people snap.
And Japanese people, how about you stop being internet tough guys and actually stand up for yourselves?
Lol, history class should be:
Sensei: ...And so kids, only brave japanese to ever stand against tyrant Ishihara was Yamabuki aka to-love-ru's artist. He's the manliest man with steel balls while others watch dicklessly.
majority of japanese people arent anime/games fanatic.. and seeing as how anime has been demonised by the media, and how creepy some otaku acts... majority of people are going to vote for this douche...
a very real answer
if you were japanese and had a stranger suddenly talk about anime or manga to you when you clearly have no interest in it, is not an uncommon situation
"HENTAI = WORLD PEACE"
I am right behind ya buddy
He's nowhere near Trollestia
I think he's working on it small scale at first, Luna style.
I think he's starting small, Luna-style.
Am I the only one who notice how the OP pic delicately resembles him having a fun and happy time being banged by the dude behind him...?
Notice he only targets female and child depictions, while leaving out males. He's protecting his precious Yaoi.
Lol so friggin' true.
Seriously speaking though, shouldn't he first start with Yaoi? It's depicting men as weak, girly, and extremely submissive, that and the homosexual themes (I have nothing against homosexuality, however since Ishihara is being a total prick, the situation calls for it), and the fact that some of it is hardcore gay porn, and for WOMEN no less is just disturbingly unpleasant.
Ishihara needs to use some fucking common sense.
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Shitara looks like Donald Rumesfield in that picture..
ONLY WAR USA EVER STARTED...
UNPROVOKED...
BOTH ARE PIECES OF SH1T
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I think I agree with you......
We are onto you upsidedowngaybuttsex-hara!
Yes, but only because you have an infantile intellect that thinks anyone that stands behind someone else is having buttsecks. Not everyone like the anus like you, pal.
SECRET BUTT FUN!
xD SCARY BUT FUN!
Anons 4:57 and 9:15 both deserve this brohoof lol /)(\
well he is certainly an asshole person
Suprise Butt fun
My hope with this guy was a heart attack or aneurysm..
Parents and schools idem less careful about sex
It is very easy to point the blame to someone and play dead
i does agree in a way curse people to death is bad but
i do wanted to see him find himself with lot of
red card call!!
NO job lose job No money
who pay Ishihara ~.~
Although anime and manga portray women in various sexual ways, a lot of them have women in dominate roles and rarely portray them as anything less then a man.
Ghost in the Shell is a good example. I love Motoko. Intelligent and capable, but extremely hot.
Reality has nothing to do with this joker.
He's just a grandstanding fuck, who wants to fuck the otaku over, under the pretense of standing up for women.
Yeah, but she does walk around in a purple spandex under her trench coat.
So does Superman. I wouldn't really call that sexist.
6get in a feminist thread.
They are going about this completely wrong.
I have no problem with trying to rid any entertainment industry of sexism, as I think all people should be valued equally.
However, censoring violence and sex just for the sake of it won't help anything. If you want to censor violence against women specifically, for example, the gratuitous rape scenes against women or the idea in Japan that women shouldn't enjoy sex and it hurts them all the time, then I'm fine with that. Banning sex altogether though, is incredibly stupid and narrow-minded.
Again, I have no problem with getting rid of the obvious sexual discrimination in Japanese media. But if they want to be fair they should come up with a direct, clear-cut rating system that covers all offenses equally and fairly. Not this blanket "BAN SEX AND VIOLENCE" shit.
If you cannot depict something in your media, then as a culture, you cannot discuss it. You can't explore the concept, you cannot bring about a dialog of its merits or harms.
Essentially, it's a crude attempt at thought control, but like sex itself, it's not like these ideas won't occur to people for not having seen them in the media. They'll just be ignorant about it now.
Never mind that historical depictions may be made inaccurate, like the movie edits to remove smoking in times where everyone smoked. Censorship quickly becomes historical revisionism.
Even if you oppose the ideas being shown or discussed somewhere, you have to consider very carefully the repercussions of censoring them, because the impact can be pretty deep and damaging.
No one said anything about censoring altogether. We're talking about trying to address issues by targeting the wrong "causes."
The parent post was talking about how they're fine with censoring violence against women specifically, but not banning sex and violence overall. I'm saying that even if it's unpleasant to see, it should be allowed because punishing people who raise the issue won't make it go away.
People will still raise issues that aren't regularly shown in the media because it's obvious those issues exist. The problem is how common the Japanese media makes these issues. To say that we should just regularly treat people like shit in the media solves nothing and just sounds like an excuse to keep negative material. People will talk about it no matter what, so why be okay with sexism in the media when is SO fucking prevalent in Japan as it is?
I don't like seeing it, but I don't know what a proper solution for it is. The Japanese porn industry's fixation on rape just baffles me. Small doses wouldn't be the worst thing in the world, but when it represents about half of what's out there, I can't help but think something is off. If there's so much of this stuff, it means that people must be buying it, otherwise it would die out. Is every man in Japan just so frustrated with the more even playing field in modern times that they gotta rape someone?
when they banned loli 2d porn, I didn't stand up because I'm not into this thing.
when they banned violent 2d porn, I didn't stand up because I'm not into this thing, either.
now they are banning 2d porn alltogether, who will stand up with me now?
'now they are banning 2d porn alltogether, who will stand up with me now?'
Your penis.
Yeah, milf is the only disgusting but legal supposed porn now. My dick will not join you
Believe it or not some women have rape fantasies and humiliation fetishes. It shouldn't be right for any of that to be censored, if someone likes it who cares? A Porno is a porno is a porno is a porno so all of this banned this but not that BS is a vicious cycle.. If you aint hurting anyone without their consent (looking out for you BDSM'ers) and if it's clearly not cp (on par with a snuff film if you read articles about what happens in those kind of paraphernalia) then leave it be.
Do you people even read before commenting?
Screw that, I'm a woman and I like both vanilla AND hardcore sex! (and everything in between) Who does he think he is, protecting me of stuff I don't want protecting from?
Sexism is a product of stupidity as these two anons above clearly demonstrate. If politicians want to battle it so much then this is what they should be dealing with, not with popularity stunts.
Sexism is embedded in you brain it seems.
It's fine if you like hardcore sex, but there is a huge difference between hardcore (rough sex, very graphic sex, extreme close-ups) in which the woman is enjoying herself as an active participant, and rape scenes and non-con sex (the woman never enjoys it, the woman is never satisfied, the woman never initiates.)
I don't mind the occasional rape fetish or ravishment fetish, but there is a problem when the majority of your porn makes it look like women hate sex. There is also an issue for men when it looks like men only get sex by forcing women or doing things to them that they don't enjoy. Think of the backlash we get from images like that.
It gives women a bad impression of us, it gives young men a bad impression of what they should be, and soon people like Ishihara target problems that aren't the real issue because of these perceived "problems."
In the long run, it really just turns into another way to criminalize men.
Where did I say hardcore = only rape fetish? I have read many H manga where there's willingness in both partners but can be considered hardcore. Take On Me comes to mind, where the main couple was consensual but they experimented a lot and strayed from just vanilla sex.
I do agree that the predominance of non-consensual sex does affect in the long tun the impression we have of men, but I just wanna ask if that says something about the cultural stigma. I believe Japan shouldn't be so hard on restricting sexuality in their culture, it puts a lot of stress in their men. Just look at how many get falsely accused as train chikan when they were just minding their own business and the women only carriage; this kind of discriminating treatment stresses men, as if they were sexual deviants by default when they're not.
You don't need protecting because western societies already treat (or at least attempt to treat) women equally. Women in Japan don't have this luxury.
11:04 instead of your extremely original trolling, why don't you actually make a counter-argument?
@13:29
Because I have duel citizenship with Japan and actually lived there, speak the language, etc etc. That's how I know. And what's your point? Bad things happen in the west so we should ignore them when they happen in Japan? That I should ignore the obvious sexism in Japan because it hurts your widdle feelings? What are you bitching about exactly?
I've never heard of a single complaint from my relatives in Japan about sexism. I don't know what your warped view is because Female Mangaka draw more erotic stuff than the guys but no one is complaining about it except you
Wha? And where is that happening? You are lying. You are a mangina
You need to get your head out of your ass.
What makes you think the women in japan are treated inequal? i've seen women here in the west beaten, treated like crap, so what's your point.
Hardcore sex =/= consensual sex you stupid bimbo.
Last time i checked porn-stars were consensually getting paid to perform hardcore sex
@Roc
SO you just agreed with me. Good job.
Where did I say otherwise? Last time I checked hardcore can be consensual too.
Well at least you don't try to say I have a penis, that's a plus :3
Who said anything about taking away hardcore sex? If you don't know how to comprehend what you're reading then get back to the kitchen.
Ugh.
"kitchen"
"bimbo"
Fucking hell since when is sancom full of shitty trolls.
I believe a gutless person who hides behind the anon name should go to the kitchen too, we both lack balls, so let's go make some sammwiches :3
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but men and women aren't equal, especially now days. women keep saying they are discriminated, yet their are in the key position everywhere. women get priority over men in jobs, and men are facing the problem of getting falsely accused of sexual harassment as a tactic to get them out of the way.
even if manga and anime were sexist, which i doubt it greatly, at least not anymore than any other media, books, films, tv. i wouldn't doubt is only a reflection of what is going on. but then again even manga is mostly don't by women lately, which are greatly the ones responsible for such a bad interpretation of manga. just look at previous sankaku articles on the subject before trying to call me a liar or a chauvinist.
"just look at previous SANKAKU ARTICLES on the subject before trying to call me a liar or a chauvinist."
*Facepalm*
Incidentally, banning depictions of sexism in media is a form of censorship by itself. By advocating it, you advocate against free speech. Just a curious observation.
You can twist it that way if you want, I don't mind.
My point is that I'm completely fine with them addressing sexism in the media, the same way I'm fine with them addressing racism or any other prejudice that strays from treating all people as equals.
Because when you start allowing sexism or racism in your media, the inevitable result is that there is a greater chance that the group you are prejudice against will have less freedom of speech in the media due to the fact that it will become common practice to degrade or exclude them.
Freedom of speech isn't the original issue though. The problem is that he wants to get rid of sexism, but is targeting sex and violence, which is not the direct cause of sexism.
@9:38 It is not censorship if the ban involves getting rid of footage of an dis-consenting child being sexually abused. Do not confuse a work of fiction and consent with that of real snuff, rape and cp. Banning child porn is justifiable because it involves an individual being coerced into something they wouldn't normally do. And don't even tell me you liked being sodomized as a child or would have consented to it at a pre-pubescent age - That is Snuff and is as bad (worse in my opinion) as battery, murder and all of the above.
@9:16
U MAD BRO?
Learn to read.
Thank you 9:16 for that off topic overemotional rant.
Compromising fuckwads such as yourself is half the problem. Give them an inch and they will take a mile.
Freedom of Speech is an all or nothing deal. The censorship of anything, no matter how vile, distasteful, or harmful is still censorship and a limit on intrinsic human freedom to say whatever the fuck they goddamn please.
@09:16
Censorship is not a black and white issue. Bear in mind that banning child porn is a form censorship too, even through even hardcore advocates of freedom of speech support it.
You clearly mind if you started talking about it. Facts are not "twisting it". They are just that, even if you don't like them.
Depicting unequal treatment does not result in unequal treatment in reality. People develop the capability to recognize that somewhere around the age of 3 if my memory serves me right.
There is a clear distinction where a depiction is intended to be derogatory and where it's not. It should be a no brainier to which side anime belongs, but I guess not all people possess the mental capacity.
You have it backwards. Derogatory depiction does not cause discrimination. Discrimination is what causes derogatory depiction. Media may be used to reinforce a status quo but it will neither cause, nor sustain it on it's own. In fact, media has never been known to sustain anything worse than fascination with American Idol, which is pretty grim, admittedly.
Freedom of speech is an issue, and you can't sidetrack it because there are other issues. I never even tackled this point, why do you even bring it up here?
Sex was always a delicate matter in media and politics. They go about it as if it was something abnormal and wrong from nature.