Wada: “FF7 Remake Would Take 10 Times as Long as FF13″
- Categories: Games, News
- Date: May 30, 2010 09:58 JST
- Tags: Final Fantasy, Production Controversy, Remakes, RPG, Square Enix, Twitter
Square Enix’s CEO has claimed that a remake of Final Fantasy VII would be a difficult proposition indeed, which by his estimation could take 10 times the development time Final Fantasy XIII took.
Square Enix CEO Wada tweeted thus:
Regarding an FF7 remake:
We get this question all the time from lots of countries. At this level of quality it took us 3-4 years to finish FF13, but if we were to finish a FF7 remake at the same level of quality it would take 10 times as long, so it’s a difficult issue and not just something we could start at any time.
However, with the request being so frequent it’s something we keep to heart.
Naturally there are those who are quick to begin making disparaging comments about the relationship between Final Fantasy XIII’s notorious linearity and the likely development time (“It’s because there are towns!”), as well as those who are left wondering about Square Enix’s constant vacillations over the feasibility of such a remake in the face of what must already be the most anticipated remake of videogame history.
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I hardly think it's take them 30-40 years, but even if it would they should stop talking about it and just do it
Even if only a side project, it'd make them a lot of money
Then they should remake 10 while they're at it
I'd rather play the original FF7, but a remake is fine too... but i cant wait 30 - 40 years, i'll probably die already
This remind me of Chrono Trigger 3D remake (AKA Chrono Resurrection), which actually quit impressive & proved that it's doable. Too bad SE decided to kill it, even though many have expressed they want a CT remake & SE refused to make one. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrono_Resurrection
Now, do we need someone "attempt" to make a HD FF7 just to prove that it's doable?
If Square Enix has gotten this ridiculously lazy, they need to go bankrupt.
Not only that, they disrespect their fandom with these arrogant attitudes. Because if many wish a FF VII remake, then it should tell them that such product would be highly profitable, and thus pleasant to them. As long as the remake stays faithful to the original, and brings some modern gameplay and graphics, along with a theoretically improved storyline, than the product will be a success. Just look at Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver -- awesome and very well done remakes of Gold and Silver while also being the best main series games of the Pokémon franchise so far.
First off, the people who keep saying "he means 30-40 years" apparently do not understand hyperbole. Completely disregard that number, just think of it as generically equaling "a really long time." I know I know, don't feed the troll, but really that's one of those things that are so stupid I can't help myself.
It is interesting that he said it'd take that long though, considering they already have all of the plot, characters, dialogue, battle system, and locations already plotted out--they'd just need to re-do the graphic assets in HD, dub in voice acting for the dialogue and probably add some extras to make it somewhat worth buying (who here's hoping for schoolgirl alternate outfits for the girls?).
*cough* Anywho, it does seemed to be a veiled or accidental comment on the amount of content in FF13 compared to FF7. Unlike many of the people on this site, I didn't hate FF13, but I will say I miss things like the Overworld from pre-PS2 FF games, and minigames from the pre-FF13 games. Has anyone actually sat down and looked at the amount of different zones in each, though? Keeping in mind that the PS2 and PS3 games have much larger zones than the PS1 games.
That Yuffie Picture is cute :3 I wanna give her a hug...and then some
So they admit, that FF7 was a better game than FF13 now is?
Probably because SQX is too lazy to make a good game.
Is he implying FF7 is 10 times the game FF13 is?
me and the rest of the goddamn world would be willing to wait that long for such a masterpeice.
It's not only the graphics that would need re-doing. Since FFX, they've had voice acting, so they would need to do that as well. Also, the audio formats have advanced quite a lot, so they'd have to do that. They'd also have to make said audio playable on, say, a home theater audio system.
They'd have to re-design most of the landscape to look good on 1080p. Same with the characters and the videos. They'd have to do that to all of the monsters in the game as well. Oh, and of course, Gold Saucer.
Then there's the more flashy videos and animations, such as any video with Meteor, the ending video and Omnislash.
They'd also have to re-design all of the NPCs. Then they'd need to find a way to make towns and airships plausible and work smooth without affecting the graphics.
And who knows, they might even need to put additional details, such as the materia slots in Buster Sword being filled with actual materia.
Also, the conversion from PS1 graphics to PS3 would pretty much mean that they'd have to re-design most of the characters almost completely, or they'd just look silly.
Really, it's not just a "Press a button and presto, HD FF7". It's much, much more.
And besides, one of their main concerns would indeed be whether the fans would be pleased with it, because if they wouldn't, the game would pretty much flop. Not to mention that only the actual die-hard fans of FF7 would buy the game, since it would have nothing new, just being a remake for PS3. And really, considering how long it took to get remakes of the earlier FFs to PS1 or GBA, what makes anyone think that they'd pull off that on PS3?
Oh yes it would sell. It's not something that fans want, it's a game that they need. ^_^
About 20 years from now, after a hard day from work, you just arrived at your house. Same old routine, you get a change of clothes grab something to eat and try to entertain yourself away from the aftertaste of that shift. As you pass by the room of your 13 year old son you hear an especially nostalgic music, it sent an electric shock to your whole body, it made you feel young and gave a flashback of hours and hours of enjoyment and epicness. Yes, it's the main theme of FFVII (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzz5cVt70j8). It seemed to be the grandest symphony that ever tickled your ears. Your body moved on its own, dragging you closer and closer till you give the door a slight tilt. The HD TV showed familiar faces, the faces of your comrades from long ago. And as you try to contain the emotions trying to burst out, your son asks "Dad, do you like playing games?"
"Yeah"
All I hear is that FFVII was the better game, as evidenced by how long they claim it would take to develop an already developed game.
That, and I still say MS should partner with SE for an exclusive remake on their platform. Now that would be funny, the game every Sony and Square fanboy wants, and its only available on a rival platform.
I would also be happy with a remake yet....I wonder how the hell would it take them that long to remake it. They have a complete story and characters as well unless they plan to add little mini scenes that show like 5 minutes of information we already know about the character. All they have to do is convert everything into higher graphics correct? They arn't comming up with a new FF7 are they...that wouldn't be a remake though.
Despite all the reasons out there demand for ff7 remade,
whether remade FF7 with Highly definition battle system can promise us the same experience in old FF7...
it is still remained unknown though...
"10 times as long to make"? Given that FFXIII took them several YEARS to make, I have only one response to that claim: BULLSHIT. That'd be longer than Duke Nukem Forever! If it would take SquareEnix that long to make ANY game, remake or original, then they have no business making games. So no, that's utter bull, he's just making lame excuses.
Did Square Junk the High Res Models they did for the PS2 Teaser of FF7? I mean those models even by todays standards are better then most games.
C'mon SE...I desperatly want to see Sephiroth snuff Aeris in HDMI format...
I wouldn't mind waiting, just knowing it's being made...
*crosses fingers*
I'd love to both see that AND what a lot of fans DO clamor for: A way to either bring her back OR keep her from dying in the first place - thereby creating a totally new alternate storyline for Square to cash-in on as "Alternate Dimension Sequels".
Square would be crazy not to do that. FF7 Remake gets multiple endings based on if Aerith/s dies or lives; then makes games, multimedia, toys, etc. based on BOTH stories. Double the cash-cow, double the fun!
They would only find a way to screw it up. Somehow they'd make Cloud and Sephiroth more moody and gay. Somehow they'd find a way to add more belts and zippers to the character designs. They'd add new combat features and screw up the material system. They'd find a way to stuff in shitty overly dramatic jpop songs.
I don't want a FF7 remake unless they promise not to fuck it up.
we should start a statistic of who would actually buy an FF7 remake and mail it.
i bet we'll see a trailer for the game within the next month
What jerks. I can't imagine it's anywhere near as hard as they think, and even if it was, does the promise of selling several million copies not make up for the effort?
i would not want to see a remake because, first off they don't even have the original "Square" team anymore. second they probably couldn't remake it right if everything was handed to them on a silver plate. third, SquareEnix is garbage now. i mean have they even released one decent game in years now? i don't think so.
Why do they need to remake ff7? If they remake it, they`ll remake characters too....they change tifa!!!
NOOOOO.... D-cup Tifa will begone!!!!
Right remake ff8 because this is the game without story line!!!
*sigh* Definitely the issues plaging or beloved S-E run deep and at a management level and we won't see an improvement until said management changes hands.
What kind of mentality puts an alleged "quality" of form over concept in such a way that a game that was feasible more than 10 years ago now it's an engineering improbability? How do other companies keep making RPGs for the new generation consoles without self-imposing totally ridiculous standards? I really cannot give a fuck about seeing the pores and individual hair strands of the characters, especially if they come at the price of story and playability (and release time.)
If they follow this trend, what's FFXV going to be like? A perfectly rendered single frame? "Hey, yeah, we would have liked to make a few seconds of animations, not to mention let you be able to interact with it, but you have to understand that at this level, each frame and feature would take us another 5 years."
I'd be fine with a remake in slightly lower quality than Final Fantasy XIII, that game may have had awesome graphics but the story line was awful. It just didn't feel like a Final Fantasy game... :(
I'd much have a game with an amazing story line being remade then Square Enix making a new Final Fantasy with a horrible storyline.
Fuck Final Fantasy. :\
Well, let's see here...SE currently releases five to six times more as games than Squaresoft ever did annually. And they've cut down to half the staff...yeah, they really are putting in about 1/10th the effort into their games as Squaresoft did. Hence, all their games being horribly rushed SHIT.
Glad to finally see Wada owning up to the fact...
i sense excuse after excuse. it's what they get for hyping the damn FF7 saga up so much and not delivering. i wouldnt be surprised if they try and changed the battle system to be like a more spactactular XIII or Dissidia.
I hold the belief FF13 is just a prototype for the FF7 remake. They need to get the new engine working properly. FF15 will most definitely be the prototype for the towns.
Where are people coming up with 30-40 years? From what I recall there are two newer FFVII releases: Crisis Core and Dirge of Cerberus, as well as a full length CGI movie: Advent Children. That's 3 products released within the last 6 years. So why would it take longer than that to remake the original for the PS3 or next generation?
Don't do it there's just things in FF7 on PS that just wouldn't look right or just plain wierd if they moddernized the graphics and whatnot
Then I recommend qhimm.com that MAY help to displace any of those doubts your having. I wish I could post some screens. just wow.
So what they're saying is "we couldn't possibly work on something that's decent so take this half-assed piece of shit instead" what happened to quality in my games.
i don't give a damn about a remake why the hell would i pay for the same game but updated graphics.
Final Fantasy games should be held at a higher standard because they are mainstream they should be the best but instead they have become nothing more than a parasite on its fans sucking out money
Sounds like they can't double-task...
just keep it to their hearth forever
how could a long and boring game like ff13 take less time to make then an ff7 remake.
all people are asking for is some better graphics for a classic game
wow she looks cute!!!!!!!!!!
what's the news all about?
what a load of crap, hello Advent Children, Dirge of Cerberus, Crisis Core, etc they have the freaking models already for the main cast and more. and at the very least a few locations, 10 times longer my ass, thats douchebag talk for "we are too lazy."
I believe that should the worsest thing happen, some kinda of international law prohibiting the creation of Final Fantasy 7's remake, when worst comes to worst, the fanatics will make and release a 2d... pixalated sprite-full... but completely HD version of Final Fantasy 7. (with very great looking background art.
and if not that then the fans'd make a final fantasy 7 TEXT-based RPG for DOS. (and I'll be playing it on my DS!)
all together folks: BUUUUUUUUUUULLLLLLLLLLLLSHHIIIIIIITTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!
They are basically admitting that FF13 is 0.1 the game FF7 was.
Then Duke Nukem Forever's quality is....?
Pretty retarded logic that a FFVII remake would need to be Advent Children quality. Just had to point out how ridiculous a notion that is. Kill yourself for even thinking that, and then trying to back it up too.
well get started on it now you fools.
Well, I would be satisfied with Dissidia-like graphics... that's more than enough to enjoy a remake.
It will take that long only if they want to change the whole damn thing like add more stories, somewhat new and ridiculous gameplay, etc...If they just happy to change only the graphics, add some new music, voice acting ,create the remake one would only take over a year or two.
Whatever, it easier to screw up something that already good than make it better.
10 years, huh... Well if they handed the project to my game studio I can finish it less than two years flat. That's just psycho, did Square Enix has lost most of their talent or something?
10 years for FF7 remake... then I guess they'll be needing like 50 years to remake Xenogears...
ff7 remake would take a long time but 10 years probably not. maybe 5-6 years granted they don't pull some bullshit like making a version for the 360 which takes some of their resources away from main game dev.
a ff7 remake at its 20th or 25th anniversary would be very appropriate.
I hope it would be completed as soon as possible
square is full of shit, jesus christ the storys already there for gods sake. just redo the writing and use the same engine they used for ff13 and its a 2-5 year dev time game. i dont know what the fuck there on but its made them dumb as shit.
I seriously doubt that 3D remakes of Final Fantasy games would take "10 times the production time of Final Fantasy 13".
Really, really doubt it.
Id much rather have square just keep remaking the first 10 games...
Hell id be happy if they just did 8 - 10 just to piss off a lot of people :D
a remake of 10-2 would be so bad either :3
If X-2 got a remake with a mute button for Brother, I would play that shit like mad.
Good to see Square-Enix admitting they used 10 times less effort on making FF13.
Why shouldn't they? Fanboys will buy anything with Final Fantasy stamp on it anyway. It's just like those Eva fans who'll snap up anything, even that crappy and overpriced bento.
what was that saying again the longest journey starts with a single step or something like that
It's ironic how a Final Fantasy VII remake would be the greatest thing for the PS3 and Square Enix and they can barely do it, according to this.
ALRIGHT ALRIGHT!... then don't make it!.... jeez... they're gonna put so much excuses to not make it, might as well don't then...
I have an incredibly tough time believing that it would take ten times the amount of time it took putting together XIII to do a remake of VII. Who gives a flying fuck if it has large cities? So do other next-gen games, and they seem to be capable of putting together functioning environments. And Square, who has on its working team some of the (assumedly) most talented programmers in the industry, is incapable of keeping up?
I don't know why they're lying about all this, but I do think they're doing such.
I'd much rather have an FF6 remake.
I'm still waiting for FF5 on the DS, if that happens I swear to all internet fan boys I'm gonna burn that game in my DS and never EVER take it out.
I believe the remake of VII would probly take some time to complete..because more then likely its going 2 be different from the original to keep things new and refreshing for the returning players..i don't know why Sqaure is holding off on the remake..if FF13 can sell 5.5 million worldwide then im pretty sure a VII remake wil sell 10 times more.
but but but...
if succeeded, the sales for FF7 remake might boom the market.
currentlt there is a huge demand on it.
I don't understand why they don't like money.
I like Final Fantasy VII, but the problem is that it's from a time when 3D graphics were ugly and horribly slow. FFVI stands on its own pretty well because it used the 2D graphics it had pretty well. FFVIII also still stands on it's own today because the graphics, while not HD, are perfectly serviceable as they stand.
FFVII looks like the bastard child of two different art directors, thanks to the use of a relatively normal-looking model for battles and the superdeformed look for the rest. And to be honest, it's hard to take stuff in the game seriously at times thanks to the SD characters (or the SD prerendered cutscenes). I really think that the game could use a remake, just so I can play something with a unified art direction.
I don't get why they don't just make a PSP version... Why not? If it's complaints about HD being to demanding... why not do it PSP. I agree there needs to be some unity in the quality. Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep looks great on PSP. Why not do the same to FFVII??
Agreed, agreed and agreed again.
Two Words: Vagrant Story
Maybe they should get a new CEO, their games take too long to make these days.
It would take 10x as long to make but be 1,000,000 better than XIII.
yea and in 10 years ps4 will be out then by that time they will scrap the game again so they can put it on the new system
With the way Sony presently shoot themselves in the foot, I don't think we need to worry about the PS4.
If we followed their time schedule of failness, in 30-40 years we would be at PS8-PS10. This is only if Sony doesn't fuck their company to death by then.
true but they still have Eyedentify, also any remake of the old final fantasy's would be a god sin (as with any remake of any good to god-tier game on any of the old systems would be, i mean if Nintendo remade ocarina of time people will be hanging themselves left and right.)
They are going to cock tease this into the ground. There is no way in hell Squenix would bother remaking this game currently. They are holding out for when they drop really low in sales. If they keep making crap like 13, that might happen sooner than later though.
Why 7 though. Why not 9 or 9 i mean seriously both of those are WAY better than 7 IMO.
what about chorno trigger!! we want a chorno trigger remake also!!!
what the fuck is chorno trigger?
Only the best jRPG ever.
IMHO, Chrono Cross is better, but CT is great too.
Agreed, Chrono Trigger is due for a remake instead of BS porting to handheld. And Yeah, this crap about it taking 10 times longer is nonsense, you have everything laid out for you and you now have a system you just completed(FFXIII) to help you make it. Get on the ball Square, or are you keeping that ace up your sleeve for when you finally hit shitbottom(which you aren't that far from if you keep putting out crap)?
I could have sworn Square was already so deep in shit that they are drowning in it? I guess i could be wrong but i havn't played a decent game from them in years.
jesus, what would take so long.
they should still have everything from the cg parts on file somewhere and also the wire frames for the pre rendered shit.
they have the ff13 engin, and they could add shit to make it more suited to ff7
now add onto it the time to texture and the time to re sculpt areas for more detail, and there you go.
and so long as they dont fuck with the battle system, they have a pre made blockbuster.
all this shit about it would take 10 times longer is bullshit, unless the current ff team is realy that talentless, and if 13 is anything to go by, they may be.
Exactly. They have the storyboard, script, and probably stuff like item and monster data (excluding the models) already.
And they also have the game engine from FF13 (which probably took a good chunk of time).
no, they better only have the 3d engine from that, game engine better be ff7 one or the game would flop horribly.
All of you people seem to remember the FMVs looking a lot better than they actually look.
do you honestly not get how "movie" cg works?
ill run down what happend with ff7 movies quick
#1 extreme detail is put into everything (ps1 era extreme) and has models with so many pollys that even todays systems would be hard pressed to run them real time.
#2 it is rendered in a renderfarm, at either realy high detail, or at the size it would take to go on disc
#3 assumeing that it was high detail, it would sent over to editing to add things that werent possible in 3d, or to add effects and for general editing.
#4 it gets the shit compressed out of it, its hard to explain if you dont get it.
now all that said, any given cg area they had had at least 10 mill pollys, and to my understanding even the shit in crysis maxes at arounf 4.5 mill
every background in ff7 was made in 3d first rendered in high detail and compressed to be smaller sizes. in fact, im assuming that in some areas they would actually have to tone detail down (polly wise) to get it to run in game.
and i have some experience doing textures, if you have the models and know what you are doing you can easily pump textures out for half of disc one in 1-2 days because alot of that shit can be reused over and over again for various backgrounds.
the hardest things they have to do is fill in the the areas they didnt have to model at first.
Take a good look at Gears of War and you're seriously suggesting that today's systems would have a hard time replicating anything from 7? What?
The game isn't even fifteen years old. I'd be happy with a remake 10 years from now.
How long did FF7-Advent Children take? I Betcha less time than the actual FF Movie-Spirits Within
Square CEO talking like he took a years worth of crack, oh wait this is square nuff said.
Fucking retarded 10 times more time?! what?
Why the fuck will it take longer?
The story is made already
The engine is made already
I don't understand where the fuck they get 30 to 40 years from. Are they fucking retarded?
Please send actual facts on why the hell it will take ten times longer.
I mean for FF13 you needed to make the engine, and you needed to write a whole story.
Those 2 fking steps are done already. The game should logically take LESSER time.
AND AS A BONUS. The models used for advent children movie ca be used again, using the same models for cut scenes in the fucking game
So...
Cut scene engine=done
story=done
GAME ENGINE=DONE
WTF SQUARE, DO THEY HAVE DOWNS OR SOMETHING?
15 years old is plenty of time... I don't want to play a remake 20, 30 years down the line when I lose my eyesight...
If Monkey Island games are being remade now, it's perfectly reasonable for FF7 to be remade, especially when it's one of the worst-aged Final Fantasies ever made.
That said, I'm honestly sick and tired of Square Enix WHINING about the game development process.
Okay, so we know it's hard. We don't need these insane estimates on how much harder they need to work or listen to quack-math they put out as an excuse. Man up and confirm or deny the rumor.
same here...as long I know the remake won't epically fail, I would happy with a 10 year wait...lol
As long as it basically stayed the same game with just a massive facelift then i can't see how it would have any issues topping charts, one of the theories i've seen posted is that SE might be saving it to use as a get out of jail free card so to speak incase of any extreme company issues, with FF14 round the corner who knows we might see it sooner rather than later :)
It pisses me off, but i think that 'Get out of jail free card' idea is probably along the right track, i mean if you take a look closely at all the games coming out of square enix's ass lately, it makes tetris look multi-million its goddamn sickening, and the biggest problem is, that even if they managed to fuck up the remake idiots like me would still buy if only to support the original game and the developers themselves, because, i fucking loved that game.... although if they are going to remake 7m they may as well take the time to do 8 and 9 as well, i don know about anyone else, but i'd buy a remade 8 and 9.
x-2 was retarded fanfare not even worth playing let alone buying, if i had the choice of downloading and playing 10-2 for free or paying 200 bucks for my next game, id be out 200 bucks
that game was a piece of shit.
i havent played 13 yet, but apprently there is no such thing as a story line in there, even in ff 11 there was a story line, like come the fuck on, this is getting disgusting,i think its time we dropped an angry mailman off at SE and just watched the fun >_>
--Arek
Did you two go to school and learn how to multiply or not?
3-4 years x 10 = 30-40 years. Dumbasses
What a fucking drama queen!
First off; no game should take 30-40 years to complete. If it takes you that long to develop a mediocre game you might as well drop out of the industry now.
Second; the game is already complete! With FFXIII they had to create a whole new world, write a whole new story, create whole new characters, so taking several years to complete is somewhat understandable. But a remake of FFVII is just that; new graphics and voice work to an already finished game. So why exactly would it take them 30 years to redo the game?
30-40 years is at least 2 more console wars, which means development of the game would continuously get pushed back as new systems and technology are introduced changing the future of gaming. And if they want to waste 30 years remaking an older Final Fantasy game start with IX.
They could totally ignore such a crap game like ff7 and remake a good game - ff6.
They could totally make a sequel or prequel to FF7 to ruin it for everyone with the linearity and shit. Because it's still related to FF7, so it's guaranteed some of the loyal shitheads that doesn't know basic maths (like 10 times longer than 3-4 years is not 10 years, but 30-40, even if that's unreasonable.) would still buy both. Not able to figure out how much money they spent on that shit either.
While I agree with you that remasteringFF 7 is not like creating a new game you are missing some important detail. SE will nevertheless have to create all the previous background of the game from scratch if they want them in HD and the same goes for about half of the characters in the game. To record all the voices for such a long game would take years upon years, and the original story had tons of flaws which will need to be ractified before recreating the game. I personally would wait for 10 more years, and the next console, before recreating FF7 and 8. SE will learn to use the crystal tools more eficently by then.
That's true, if you put your heart into something it will naturally turn out better than if it were created out of greed. Some game developers and writers don't seem to have a passion for creating games that's why you get millions of crappy spin-offs for a game that might have sold well. Instead of realizing what it was that made that game so good and work on trying to improve it for possible squeals, they think any game with the same title will sell. Which is kinda true, (it sure explains why we have 90 Final Fantasy titles) but they'll never expand beyond the small fan base they initially had and as long as the game sells they don't care, "they're making money" rather than making a real game and drawing in an even larger audience for a much greater fortune.
anon@15:19
the game "companies" are in it for the money. that is true. but the writers and designers should be in it for the passion. to design a game that they've always wanted to play. that is just my personal opinion is all.
OK then...then how is it that a game like Uncharted 2 got released so quickly? The original was released in 2007 and the squeal in 2009 only 2 years later, in which the whole game was voiced, and contained entirely new backgrounds. Look at the amount of detail paid in Assassin's Creed world map or hell, the research undergone, same as Uncharted, 2 years after the original a well done squeal is released, with a 3rd major platform Assassin's Creed to be released what, later this year or something?.
Call of Duty, Killzone, Resistance, Gears of war, are all games that have have had squeals including third installments for some within the past 3-4 years, 10 times fewer years as a Final Fantasy remake?
Some of, if not all of the games I listed impress on levels all 100 Final Fantasy games combined would have a hard time achieving. It seems like the amount of time need to create masterful games has decreased greatly in the past few years leading one to believe that developers in the industry have a good grasp on it. So what's Square's problem?
Erm, I mean Square's time issues. There's too many problems with Square Enix to debate it here, I'm focusing on why 30 years is the timeline for a FF remake.
It's gonna remain a legend - just like Duke Nukem Forever.
hhaha i see what u did there ^ :p
Well if FF13 took 3-4 years then 10 times as long would be 30-40 years.
That means it would take a MINIMUM of 30-40 years.
The above posters said they'd be happy with a 10 year wait which implies that 10 years is the upper bound. No, 30-40 years is the upper bound.
From which phrase did the above two readers mention that they were were multiplying from the multiplication table, to derive the number of years required?
I believe they merely expressed their threshold for waiting to be around ten years.
Hey TheBeast all game companies are in it for the money, why do you think they milk FF7 so much now? If companies didn't make money off a game they would be closed down.
We'll just have to wait for the PS6, which will be able to develop the game on its own in 5 minutes using information from the internet.
The guy's obviously exagerating. There's nothing about the game that should take even 10 years to make.
they expect us to believe that a single ps3 game would take longer to make than the life expectancy of the ps3-ps9? they are throwing out bullshit numbers. i don't care for a remake of final fantasy 7. they would only screw it up now. they have no passion. they are just a bunch of traditional lazy business men only interested in money. they don't deserve to be in the gaming industry, they should be in stocks and bonds.
I don't think the man knows what he is talking about. 30-40 yrs to create a game? I think Wada is exaggerating..oh just a little bit. Or perhaps he wants to quell the FF geeks wet dreams about a remake ever happening because he's tired of all the speculation. But 30-40yrs...no. I think it's either hyperbole or he can't do the math. In any event, if that were even true, there would be no possible way for them to recoup their losses because this would be the most expensive game/entertainment media ever to be made; There would be 2nd generation production staff working on this game; People working on this game would have died, retired, or the sane, just plain quit; The game would be delayed even further to catch up to current-gen technology. Furthermore, it took that long to make it would be the most spectacular failure because nothing would ever be able to live up to the hype of a game taking that long to produce.
Bullshit indeed, especially considering that just the design for a game like ff7 is likely to take ~12 months, but with a remake all they'd have to do is the artwork, and scripting ( and maybe an engine, if their current ones can't hold out ). Of course some design is required for a smooth ride, but still... Most of their design team could be working on the next game ~~
"The quality of FF13" The fuck where they smoking when they tried to say FF13 was "quality"
Anyways, who cares if it would take more effort to make. That's the damn point, stop rehashing the same shit and half assing it and make a GOOD game for once..
I have to agree. What quality? the only decent thing about FF13 was its cutscene graphics, the game as a whole was the most dissappointing piece of shit i've played yet. FF7 was a good game, if it were remade it would probably sell millions of copies on name alone. However if they take the same suckass attitude to the remake as they did FF13, you'd probably see near 100% returns.
30-40 years to make a game? Yeah maybe if you had down syndrome and were doing it alone on a sketchpad while locked in a pitch black closet.
Greedy businessmen are worse than serial killers. Yeah i know its a controversial thing to say, but its true.
Well, at least the expactations on a FF7 would even higher than they were on FF13. So it might be even worse....when people think "FF13 is shit, the past was so much better" than SE can live with it. But when they make a remake people will say "fuck you SE, you destroyed such a good game" and they probably lose fans, because they expected too much.
So I have to agree: a remake of FF7 would be only a "Final Fantasy" (remember like the name was made), because it really will sell because of its name.
The remake will only surface when Squenix realizes they are not making any more money with Final Fantasy and that is going to be their "last hurrah" or their trump card.
Wel, it's Square Enix we're talking about... They promise big, but fuck it in a blunder...
Maybe we're better off with the original?
Sounds like Sqyare-Enix is getting pretty damn lazy.
Don't they do market research to see if the idea of a FF VII remake would garner sufficient attention to warrant the expenditure of time and money to do?
My confidence in them (which was getting fairly low recently with FF XIII) is starting to hit new lows.
"3-4 years to finish FF13", "it would take 10 times as long" -> 30-40 years?
but Spirits and Advent Children didn't take that long and that has an equilaent amount of cutscenes in it
Besides, you'd think they could at least lift part of the models from Advent Children for FF7.
That what you get from lazy workers, all they have to do is just remake the graphic at most well they may need to add something new to the content or gameplay but maybe the main story would be the same, and that alone can save time for them
But wow !! 30 to 40 years ?, do they write the program with their feet and eyes blindfolded ? it's laughable, I've never heard any games that require 30-40 years of completion. Are they researching "cure for cancer" ? NO i think not. they are just plain LAZY
but guys theres towns do you know how much time towns would take to make
Snap, i've never had my feet blindfolded. That must be a massive deterrent huh? hehe just joking. Yeah they are just lazy fucks, it wouldn't take much effort to redo and enhance FF7.
@ Vitu. This ignorant CEO just suggested a remake of a simple game would take 30-40 years to produce, not a reasonable 10 *shakes head*
I have absolutely no skill in making games, but even would be able to completely remake FFVII in full HD standards at the time of its release in less than 40 fucking years.
-Sithreis