Final Fantasy XIII Xbox 360 Graphics “Inferior to PS3″

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Players given the opportunity to playtest the PS3 and Xbox 360 versions of Final Fantasy XIII side-by-side have been reporting the in-game graphics of the Xbox 360 version are noticeably inferior to those of the PS3.

Square Enix’s marketing activities, in the form of a touring bus, have given US fans the chance to play both:

From a real person:

I went to the Sunnyvale one today and got to play the 360 version. I am so very disappointed to see the difference in textures and detail of the 360 version vs. the PS3. =( I know it’s DVD vs. BD, but I didn’t think it would be that noticeable. My boyfriend told me it’s fine if I wanna stick with the 360 version, but he’s going for the PS3 one now.

From a game journalist:

Both PS3s and 360s were being used to show off the game, which was great as I was able to see both versions running side-by-side. As expected, the 360 version was noticeably less crisp than its PS3 counterpart, but it still ran nicely.

Additionally, the developers recently made an interesting admission:

It was easy to port to the Xbox. Porting to the PS3 is harder. The PS3 has more processing power but you have to do it properly.

The only difference reported previously was that the movies and sound on the Xbox 360 would be substantially lower quality in order to cram the game onto 3 DVDs – in-game graphical differences were said to be absent.

International fans planning to purchase the Xbox version are understandably dismayed by this, although at least it seems to demonstrate the game was not intentionally crippled on the PS3 in order to accommodate the port.

The US release is in March.


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    Comment by Anonymous
    23:48 31/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    sony kids stinking up the place in here...

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:58 31/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Looks like these quotes (from a NeoGaf poster and IGN PS3) have been taken out of context.

    Neither specified 'in-game', or whether they were really able to compare the same scenes simultaneously on the bus, and it looks plausible that they were only referring to the FMV if they're talking about BD vs. DVD and crispness.

    Unfortunately FFXIII uses FMV a lot for scenes that look like in-game graphics but aren't under the player's control. If those are suffering from a resolution drop to fit onto DVD, it's going to look like the 360 is having trouble with in-game graphics.

    http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/final-fantasy-xiii-how-will-it-work-on-360-article?page=2

    Even if that's not the case, it's easy to describe flaws as though they are a virtue. 'Less crisp' could mean that the 360 version has better anti-aliasing and texture filtering for all we know. We need to see pictures, or the comments of someone other than a random forum user who can describe the differences properly without being vague.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:16 01/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    YOU RRoD 360 BETA TESTERS FAGS SURE GOT TOLD.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:55 01/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    "My boyfriend told me it’s fine if I wanna stick with the 360 version, but he’s going for the PS3 one now."

    Who gives a fucking shit about the guy you're giving blowjobs to you stupid slut! You just had to mention your boyfriend for no reason didn't you? You're probably going to be one of these people who are pregnant at 19, and then you'll be all surprised when he leaves you, baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaw :(

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:59 01/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    "My boyfriend told me it’s fine if I wanna stick with the 360 version, but he’s going for the PS3 one now."

    Who cares about her boyfriend? Why the hell did she mention him anyway, does she have to do whatever it is he says? God I hate it when other people have to rub this crap into your face just because they found someone who they can give/get BJs to/from.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:14 01/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    yeah i dont know what having a girlfriend has to do with the game other then keeping me from finishing it.

    the sex is good though.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:45 01/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    If you're into FF, you shouldn't give a fuck about MS/XBOX in the first place so there's hardly any problem.

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    Comment by David Macphail
    02:24 01/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    PS3 game better than a 360 game........obviously! Just like every other release. This was to be expected, the 360's tech is so last - gen that they've had to compress the audio and video beyond the point of recognition to make it fit on 3 DVD's.

    PS3 owners can play the game from start to finish, 360 owners have to get up every 10 minutes to swap discs around.......LOL, oh dear.

    Also, whoever mentioned Mass Effect 2 is nothing but a diseased troll, ME 2 is:

    A - coming to the PS3.
    B - garbage compared to Final Fantasy.

    Anyone who thinks ME 2 is good obviously doesn't know what an RPG is. ME 2 plays like a TPS, not an RPG. Calling Mass Effect an RPG would be like calling Ratchet & Clank an RPG.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:55 01/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    you sir are and idiot, Mass Effect revolutionized RPGs this generation. So STFU before you wanna say something stupid again.

    Owning both the PS3 and 360 is a privilege. But dissing one game to make yourself sleep at night is just insulting. Sit in the corner Davey Cocker and let the real gamers talk

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:42 01/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    a sony fanboy says that the 360 version is not that good as the ps3 version.....wow...big news

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:06 01/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    i dont think most people understand the implications of square releasing this on both platforms, sure the ps3 is superior then the xbox one visually but the point is if u have both systems then u go for the obvious choice. for people with an xbox they can get a version which will be equally amazing(why would u have both versions to compare side by side). anyways i have no doubt i'll enjoy this on my ps3 but i have a sneaky feeling i wont enjoy it half as much as my recently purchased mass effect 2(jrpg's have been mostly lousy this gen). In short own both consoles buy ps3 dont own a ps3 buy the 360 version simple no?

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:14 31/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    So FF13 is a failure, big deal. Now that Mass Effect 2 is here, it makes no difference. For 360 owners anyway.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:00 31/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Haha this is obvious now SE would learn the fk lesson and bring us Versus XIII.This game fail becasuse it is port to gaybox or should i say failbox ? nevertheless its the fact.Suck to be you guys gaybox shit

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:47 31/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    The funny thing about Versus is that it's a traditional JRPG in all but combat (and story, Nomura says, but he's full of shit.)

    It's advertised as a gaiden game but is far more like an original mainline FF than XIII is... hell, it even has a goddamn world map, which every RPG franchise but Tales has been phasing out in recent years.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:06 31/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    xbox360

    FFXIII = DVD+R DL x 3 = $5 ... + torrents ... = $5

    ps3

    FFXIII = $60

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:44 31/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Sounds like shitty FMVs.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:08 31/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I never understood my MS paid for this port in the first place.

    All this has done is showcase the inferiority of dvds and that BR is the superior format.

    The fact the ps3 version is better and then core FF fanbase is on the ps3 will just result in lop-sided sales.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:25 31/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    lol...I recognize the game journalist quote from IGN.

    have the people on this site who hate the game actually played it and understood everything?..or at least most? I'm sorry but there are just too many crazy close-minded people on this site.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:26 31/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    God fanboys do make me laugh.

    The 360 fanboys on here are now claiming that "Graphics dont matter, gameplay does" yet Im pretty sure if it was the other way around and the 360 version looked better you'd be saying "Take that Sony with your supposedly superior console". Honestly you guys are jokes.

    Im a playstation person, owned a PS3 from launch. I make no secret of it and wouldnt own a 360 if it was given me for free, it just doesnt interest me. But Im not blinded by loyalty enough not to realise that its only been the last 6-8 months that the PS3 has become a viable contender in the market, with its new price tag and great line up of exclusives and Im I can honestly say that the 360 was probably the best thing for the gaming industry. Would Sony have done so much with the PS3 if they didnt have such competition? Probably not.

    Its time people realised we're all gamers, regardless of system and we should be striving for better games across all platforms, not just our favourite system.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:36 31/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    This was already obvious before the game even came out.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:19 31/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    No japanese dub...I won't buy it.

    It's a shame...

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:02 03/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    anyways, who cares now about Failure Fantasy XIII? When Record of Agarest Wars is coming

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:05 03/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Mass Effect 2. Argument over.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:31 04/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    ^God Of War 3. Argument Over.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:51 02/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    before starting a flame war
    i wanna make clear why the ps3 version superior

    Its not just because of the bluray format, well in part it is ;), but also because the ps3 can produce better graphics than the 360 in, thanks to the Cell, and HDMI 1.3

    Sony owns a big percentage of Square, and FF XIII was initially meant to be a ps2 title then Square Enix’s shift over to the PS3, and took one and a half year more to develop the game for the ps3 and use the CELL as efficiently as possible not just relying on the GPU chip like most multi-platform titles do.

    The ps3 CELL is capable of rendering graphics also, its kind of like GPGPU,it can do cpu tasks while it also performs tasks that are traditionally made by the GPU

    The Xbox 360 can do up to 4x MSAA via the built in graphics card. However, the PS3 has an NVIDIA card which really doesn’t do much in the post-processing department as it was initially intended to be left off the console. The Cell processor was originally supposed to handle all graphics processing, but due to concerns that it would be difficult for the developers to program on, a decision was made to incorporate a limited graphics card.

    The CELL processor for instance is capable of doing the post-processing work resulting in edge-smoothing beyond the capabilities of a 16x MSAA found on high-end PC graphics card. Sony’s intent was for the developers to utilize the Cell processors eventually leaning off the graphics card crutch. (Which is already happening with exclusive ps3 games like uncharted 2)

    The reason why all the Multi-Platform tittles look basically the same on both consoles, or sometimes have slightly better textures on the 360 is because the xbox 360 is easier to program, devs basically develop first for the 360 and the port it to the ps3, without using efficiently all the CELLs SPUs if they even use all.

    Because MOST of the multi-platform titles don't even get close to using the full potential of the CELL efficiently, they mostly rely on the ps3 GPU which as mentioned before is rather limited, as it takes more work than just porting it from the other console, and that affects profits of 3rd party devs in multi-platform titles the mostly want to achieve an equal balance between the game in both consoles

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:37 05/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Why are gamers still so hung up on graphics? Haven't they realized by now that it's stupid and no amount of polish and shine is going to make a bad game any better?

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:42 06/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    In the words of Soundwave

    "Playstation superior. Xbox inferior."

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:16 20/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    wait for the sony/ff fagboys masturbate over this!

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:27 02/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    This comment thread shows that 360 players are a but of 13-10 year old wankers who have no fucking life.

    Now Shut the fuck up.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:35 11/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Says the guy who came to an article about graphics and diliberately looked through the comments

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:07 21/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I think I'll wait for Eurogamer's DigitalFoundry to review FFXIII before I cast my vote. Given almost all other multiplat games have superior 360 versions I find this review gravely suspect.

    Comment by Anonymous
    Comment by Anonymous
    03:21 02/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    "although at least it seems to demonstrate the game was not intentionally crippled on the PS3 in order to accommodate the port."

    Nope, it's pretty clear the 360 version is intentionally crippeled instead. Then again, I'll still be playing my "remote backup" of the 360 version.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:37 01/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    well, duh. this ain't Bayonetta we're talking about here.
    Ports of anything are usually worse anyway.
    Well, except in the case of Tales of Vesperia.

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:10 01/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    This site is turning to shit.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:55 01/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Don't you mean already turned into shit? Or perhaps, has always been shit?

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:48 04/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well... if you don't like it... you can always go to hell and visit other sites... so STFU you morons...

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:54 01/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    And I should care about this story why?

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:56 01/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    360 and PS3 both can have fantastic graphics. It's just how much effort the devs give it. Most games come from Japan and Sony is a Japanese company. It's a national bias thing thing and everyone wants to turn it into a "your console sucks" thing.

    Bottom line is I've got both consoles so I can get the games I enjoy regardless.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:58 02/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    u ppl are silly

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    Comment by Anonymous
    16:03 31/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Tetris is the best.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:53 31/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

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    Comment by Anonymous
    11:58 31/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I think to actually test this the people judging it would have to be unaware of which version was which. You'd expect the PS3 to look better since it has much better technology, so there would be a confirmation bias in that direction.

    For example, in one study wine tasters were given two bottles of wine to taste, one cheap and one expensive, and they all said that the expensive one tasted better. However, the experimenters had filled the two bottles with the same wine in advance.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:33 31/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Errr didn't you read the comments?
    "My boyfriend told me it’s fine if I wanna stick with the 360 version, but he’s going for the PS3 one now."

    A person was going to get the 360 version but now he has changed. Take your confirmation bias and GTFO.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:47 31/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    This is funny, Sony with Enix killed the FF video game series then they used it to kill the Xbox360. Roflmao.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:27 31/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Priority is GAMEPLAY
    THEN you can comment on graphics.

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    Comment by El Chaos
    12:31 31/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Former one has been extensively discussed already.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:15 31/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well, 360 users now have the choice of buying the supremely linear Final Fantasy 13 with slightly inferior graphics or Mass Effect 2, which to this date has received 20+ perfect reviews.

    I also seem to recall someone criticising Bioware on this site. But here we have a comparison of Bioware vs Square, a battle of possibly the most prolific RPG designers east and west, and a comparison of Final Fantasy 13 and Mass Effect 2. And here we see that the only thing FF13 has over ME2 is its graphics.

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    Comment by Artefact
    14:51 31/01/2010 # ! Inadvisable

    Actually there are more parallels - ME2 has had most of the "complicated" gameplay elements removed leaving a basic cover-TPS with a moderately sophisticated story.

    The difference is that ME2 is still a great game even if it is a bit over-simplified (though Bioware are at least as lazy as Square with their 3 towns and 4 helmets).

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:45 31/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    ME2 has had most of the "complicated" gameplay elements removed.

    The inventory and skill systems have been made more manageable, streamlined to the point that they might initially appear too thin for a role-playing game. Keep playing, however, and you'll begin to see strength and depth emerge as you further customize your squad. One of the biggest reasons why this streamlined approach to character customization works is the retooled character classes.

    - IGN

    basic cover-TPS

    Mass Effect 2's third-person shooting action is greatly enhanced over the original, making battles exciting and violent, which befits the overall shift in tone.

    -Gamespot

    moderately sophisticated story.

    The true strength of Mass Effect 2's story, however, is in how personal BioWare has made it. If you played Mass Effect 1 through to the end and still have your save data, this game will import your character and all the decisions you made. The central plot will not drastically change, but the experience most certainly will. Some old friends and acquaintances will return – and others won't – based on decisions you made in the last game. Even the opening moments of Mass Effect 2 can be slightly different.

    The actions you take in the sequel only compound this feeling of personalization. By the finale you'll have made so many decisions – ranging from simple things like whether you play as a male or female all the way up to those governing life or death – that the result is a game that is yours and yours alone

    - IGN

    3 towns and 4 helmets

    -Just as an interior designer works from a collection of complementary and contrasting colors and textures, so too does Mass Effect 2 draw from a consistent set of hues and architectural touches. Deep reds and glowing indigos saturate certain scenes, making them richer and more sinister; eerie fog limits your vision in one side mission, while rain pours down upon you in another. Subtle, moody lighting gives certain interactions great impact, such as one scene in which your troubled, tattooed teammate appears as a black silhouette. The visuals are a superb melding of art and technology, with only a few animation hitches that stand out because most aspects are consistently excellent. The fantastic musical score and sound effects do more than their share to enhance the production, working the deeper end of the sonic spectrum and communicating tension and weight without getting heavy handed or manipulative.

    - Gamespot

    Laziness is relative. The amount of effort Bioware put into mass effect 2 is plain to see, just as the amount of effort Square put into the cinematics and graphics of FF13. In that sense, I would say Bioware is at least as hardworking as Square as both of them put an incredible amount of effort into their game. Square just put that effort in the wrong places.

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    Comment by Artefact

    You could spew Famitsu quotes at me about how amazing FF13 supposedly is, I wouldn't take any notice of them either.

    The quotes you bring out are particularly risible - there is no depth at all to the character classes, just 3 different skills for each.

    The game is now a total TPS rather than an RPG of any kind (I'm not saying this is a bad thing).

    Most of what you quoted about the story is actually false - who died or romanced you has no effect on the sequel at all, it is the same for all characters. There are some severe problems with the main story (it is designed to head straight into ME3 with no resolution. for starters), but the character development is superb. The actual universe is slightly hackneyed in some ways but generally good.

    You can't rebut the fact there are only three tiny towns and four helmets and three pieces of armour for each slot, along with three linearly upgradeable weapons for each type, because it's true. Bioware dumped customisation and exploration in favour of the rest.

    I did say ME2 is "great." That does not render it immune to criticism or critical appraisal however.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:16 01/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Im not saying its immune to criticism. Im merely illustrating the fact of differences in opinion. Whether you take notice of the quotes doesnt bother me in the slightest. But what is clear to see from these quotes is that many people, including myself, happen to disagree with much of what you said. I respect your right to have your own opinion, but its also my right to disagree. And by the looks of it, I am not the only person that disagrees. That being said, I still stand by my point of bioware being hardworking and not lazy. Its just a case of quality over quantity.






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