Final Fantasy XIII Ideal vs Actuality
- Categories: Games, News
- Date: Aug 3, 2009 17:16 JST
- Tags: 3DCG, Comparison, Final Fantasy, Marketing, PS3, RPG, Square Enix, Xbox 360
Sharp-eyed observers can’t help but notice that upcoming blockbuster RPG Final Fantasy XIII’s graphics seem to have suffered a substantial degradation since the first promotional shots were released.
Now shots of the game are looking distinctly polygonal…
Originals are above, later shots below:
Of course, nobody believes promotional images for games, but even so this is slightly disappointing. Fans can take solace in the high quality of female anatomy on offer…
The game is due in Japan in the winter, as a “PS3 exclusive.” The delayed international release will include an Xbox 360 version.
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Top pic PS3
Bottom pic XBOX360
Discuss
Contradictive to my previous comment, XBOX version are more better than PS3. IMHO anyway...
Your comment on Ayane article, am i correct??
Yeah, dat one.
Hey Artefact, how about you send this link to the company/person(maybe-you) who had those pictures.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HvdRfUmoqQ&feature=related
Or just look up the title if the link don't work.
Assassins Creed PS3 vs Xbox360 TRUE Comparison
And do a BETTER job with the screen captures!
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...Also; with the first compare pics, Don't shame yourself with doing this with the First one being a FMV! that was in the first video shown back in 2005! ..and compare it to GAME video in 2009!!!!
And to the rest of you No Names, don't fall into the bullshit "PS3 sucks compared to my pretty 360 because it looks fabulous because I saw a gametrailer comparison video as proof~" since mentioned website doesn't EVER properly set the PS3 when they do those fucking videos.
That's right "strom dingaling", I'm looking at you primarly!
By the by, I was Standing there in front of that Stadium sized video screen blasting all those FFXIII previews at the Tokyo Game Show (TGS) back in 2005. "Proudly" proclaiming at the end "ONLY ON THE PS3".. that's now with the "ONLY ON THE PS3 in japan..."
What money will do to you....
LOL : D
Actually, Forlourned, i've mentioned that Ayane in PS3 are better than XBOX version. But in this article, i must say, XBOX version are better than PS3
Both consoles have their own fanbase, so i'm not defending either side ^^;
It wasn't about the PS3 VS Xbox 360 graphics really its Squareenix Preview versions of the game from the Japanese graphic VS Overseas graphics of FFXII.
lightning does look hotter in "actual pic" but not the red head.
oy who crapified my game
but the three best looking games are still PS3 exclusives.
GT5, Killzone 2, Uncharted 2
No, the three best looking games on the the PC.
As for the screenshots, I think the first set of pictures actually improved. Others not so much. It is common with games to provide bullshots that make the game look better than it actually does. It can be done to promote the game or because they didn't actually finalize that part of the game yet.
I think you miss the point, it was the three best looking PS3 games, and that's obvious considering how the Xbox 360 is the lead platform for most games today, with some exceptions (ie Burnout Paradise).
With good third party developers the PS3 version do match the 360 ones however, take Bioshock for example, an excellent port.
bioshock: but still a lame game compared to system shock 1 + 2
Go back to the 90s already, why don't you?
My grammar is more better than yours.
No, wait..
keep telling yourself that fanfag
+1
360 version not going into production till after PS3 is done and released said they originally. Methinks they're holding back because they're afraid of the inevitable war between the PS3 and 360 versions when they are released, so are trying to make them both equal.
This does the PS3 no justice. Hooray for MGS4. But they're going multiplatform. So hooray for Yakuza 3 and The Last Guardian.
bitches don't know about FFXIII running on da 360 at E3.
That was a PS3 emulator on a 360 /jk
They're holding back because Sony gave them a large sum of money to do so, but not large enough to make it a real exclusive.
says the dumbfuck american 360 fanfag
Yes it was stated that Final Fantasy 13 was dumbed down so that it would be equal with the xbox and ps3 would be the same. I forgot where I read this, if Im wrong, ah well
My thought exactly, smooches.
+1
Oh well, smart move on their part, i hope they didnt degrade for ps3 though, since i may get one just to play this (hell, i might just get the jap version of it for S's and G's). i like my fps's on 360 and pc anyways, ps3 for casual gamers anyways. havn't seen a strong base for fps on playstation since, when was it again? medal of honor? shoot, i dont think that ended well... :/
>PS3
>casual gamers
fucking lol'd
PS3=Casual GAMERS...
Sir, You really do fail. Quite miserably.
PS.:Shooters are for pussies. And since the 360 is only good at them, I think that means something for M$'s side.
Shooters are for pussies and retards *fixed
Shooters like killzone 2 and uncartered?
Lol...This comment is full of fail. Metal Gear Series is an exclusive to Playstation. I'm pretty sure no hardcore gamer plays or likes Metal Gear huh? The only reason 360 became so popular is because of Halo, and Halo sux IMO. And for a long time, Final Fantasy, and Resident Evil were exclusive on Playstation. Now they all ported to other systems as well to make more money, but remember where some of the legendary series came from fool.
If you think about it, FF & Metal Gear started on Nintendo though -_-.
Actualy Metal Gear started on the MSX. The Nintendo versions are not cannon, you can look up comments made by Kojima if you want proof.
Indeed, the Nintendo versions do not fire ordnance.
You really think one game made it popular? What a dipshit. SO PS3 sucks so bad that microsoft was able to catch up on there 2nd gen with just Halo? Deluded fanboy.
What about Forza, Gears, Lost odyssey, Ninja gaiden (it did slip but was exclusive on the original xbox), kingdom under fire, KOTOR, Phantom crash, Dead or alive 3 and 4 etc.?
I like PS3 and 360 and I have both but seriously you're a child to act like you do lol.
Well im sorry i didnt clarify enough, I didn't mean halo, dipshits, that games enough fail as it is for me to want to throw my 360 out. i mean other fps's, such as call of duty, battlefield 2, and ghost recon advanced warfighter. and yes, playstation is for casual gamers, not to an extent of nintendo, but still enough to fail in the fps department. killzone sucked due to clunky controls, timsplitters was fail on a disc, red faction was clunky as well in controlls, and it easliy lost me story wise, and that halo knockoff resistance was just lame. crysis was ok, and bioshock did better with a story then most of the other titles for ps3, with the pc version being the best. god i hated myself for even playing them.... and it felt more comfortable to play call of duty 4 on 360, though i bet that the online isn't as populated with 12 year old "gangsta" boys with high pitched bitching when they get facerolled. oh and just to say, i didn't mean to troll with my last comment, it was imho, so if you get upset over it, deal with the fact that if someone prefers fps over fighting or rpgs, or die in a fire. BTW mgs = lame, splinter cell is superior, due to not having some mullethead, and has a more enjoyable storyline.
Full of fail in this post, seriously -_-
Having said that Splinter cell > MGS is A TOTAL FAIL! Sorry but i can't help myself saying that you're a dipshit blind fanboy lmao.
Crysis was not even on the PS3.
Bioshock is on the PS3 FYI.
Red Faction has a 360 version as well.
Timesplitters is not yet released on the PS3, and most likely will be multiplatform as well.
Killzone 2 clunky controls? Please i guess you just heard about the news about it, but it's already patched and plays like COD's controls.
Seriously fanboys...haha thank god i own all consoles :D
I think people are trolling over 100% over something called Halo here. There's a reason Halo became so popular for a reason and I don't think most of you guys here understand it.
Go enjoy your Tales of VS and Star Ocean shit.
so... when did u say was resident evil exclusive on playstation?
RE1= psx, saturn, pc etc
RE2= psx, n64, pc etc
RE3= psx, dreamcast, pc etc
RECodeVeronica= dreamcast, ps2, gamecube
RE4= gamecube, ps2, wii, pc, cellphones(including zeebo)
RE5= ps3, xbox360, pc
RE gun survivor= psx pc
gun survivor2= arcade, ps2
gun survivor3= dino crisis do not count
gun survivor 4 and outbreak series=finaly, only ps2
umbrella chronicles series= only wii(whoops!)
Because of course a system needs loads of fps or it's "casual". lol! wow.
You're hardcore if you own both 360 and PS3 system. If you think you're hardcore just by owning one of the systems, obviously you're not hardcore enough.
If boasting about how hardcore you are is really this inane, I would much rather be considered a casual gamer.
I concur
There are many reasons why the Xbox 360 is considered the 'causal gamer's console'.
1. Almost everyone has one
2. Almost every 10 year old child has one
3. Playstation consoles are generally geared toward RPG, JRPG, and other time consuming single player games.
4. Almost every 10 year old internet gangster has one.
5. it cost significantly less so that every 10 year old or 10 year old internet gangster can buy or ask his mom to buy one.
6. The playstation has its 'hardcore' reputation from its base cost to buy/play, and its simple marketed image as the 'adult's console'.
7. Xbox 360 has Halo, which has evolved into the American children's playground.
I dont entirely hate the xbox 360 but i have been a Sony/Nintendo fanboy since the since the Supernintendo and PS1, so...yeah...
Don't delude yourself. 360 owns PS3 in JRRGs.
what jrpg would that be
dunno, is Valkyria Chronicles considered a JRPG or not...
/not really sure.
Hm... Jrpgs on the PS3? Like Star Ocean 4, Infinite Undiscovery, Last Remnant, and finally FF13? Fail. Go back to the 90s, fanboy.
Top pic x360
Bottom pic ps3
Why ?? Every developer know that the gpu in ps3 is weak and cell isnt powerfull enough to help him ;] . Sonys hardware is always about good marketing than real power ;] .
Sorry for my english ;]
and that is the reason why you're not a developer. Quite frankly you don't know jack. Maybe you should lay off the koolaid.
Then i need to dissapoint you ;] . I'm and environment artist and i know how this all works and the limitations off current hardware . People just believed to much sonys or microsoft marketing machine and now we got the results ;] .
rofl what a moron. If it really was a comparison it would be PS3 top and 360 bottem but even I know the 360 doesn't seep that low. Your just a moron trying to prove things you know nothing about. How about you go troll somewhere else kay?
Please hyh... Spare us the bullshit... There's already a lot floating in the air....
He's right though the PS3's gpu is the weak link it's basically a nVidia 7800GTX which wasen't designed for use in a console and over all has less processing power than the xbox.
If you know anything about computers you'll know a machine is only as strong as it's weakest component.
Problem with Cell is it's an asymmetric multi-core CPU, which is harder for programmers and compilers to utilise as the cores all behave differently (so the machine code they process is different between cores). If you're writing a 100% PS3 exclusive title you can probably do some nice things with it at the cost of development time and sacrificing some portability, and on this inverse this means most ports to PS3 probably won't exploit all the potential.
360 uses a Symmetric multicore CPU, just like most modern PCs (each core understands the same machine code and can be used interchangeably, this also makes things easier for the low level scheduler and the compiler.) It's easier to develop for because you just use multiple threads, a tried and tested technology, and your code will still run completely fine with no modification on machines that only have 1 core too.
both consoles suck anyway because of insufficient RAM
Stop the bitching.
The Xbox does have a better GPU inside but the PS3 has a whole lot of floating point processing units (AKA cell).
This should mean that the PS3 has more potential power than the Xbox360 does.
That's why the first multi-platform games looked better on the 360 at first (well most of them anyways) and how you see that most games look better on the PS3 (after finally understanding the hardware and sony releasing better SDK's).
Just stop bitching and enjoy your gaming.
Yup...
There are a lot of things that could help to create gaphics like these on a system one would be procedural textures.
-sigh- Lies and denial don't make things true.
marketing=MIND DOMINATION => win!
This remind me of DOA extreme Volley beach ball. 32 bit processor can render Kasumi, Ayane so smooth and sexy while no PS2 game can match the graphic quality.
But... let's see the reality behind this after FF-XIII eventually released.
The PS2 had 128Bit processor!
your obviously a retard hyh
we're starting to get to the point where the difference in capability and ease of programming among the PS3 and 360 is starting to make problems. Despite it's clear performance benefits, PS3 games are made multi platform, and suffer in quality on the PS3 version. Although the 360 is much easier to program games for, it's lower performance and lack of blu ray has already caused problems for developers. When it comes down to it, multi platform games end up hurting both consoles.
As for this game....if the 360 version ends up being lag free, it's because they reduced the quality. Plus, i wouldn't put it past Square Enix to focus more on the 360 version, and lower quality on the PS3 as well.
I hope FF Versus XIII will still remain an exclusive.
Reverse Tales of Vesperia maybe?
top pic famicon
bottom pic sega 16-bit
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Top pic PC
Bottom pic Fanboys rage
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So True.
And now you know why Nintendo went for a completely different approach to console design for this generation. Staying away from the festering industry mantra of NEED MOAR GRAFIX NAOZZZZZ, their new philosophy managed to sell almost as many consoles as both competitors combined. They've also been relatively free of the inane fanboyism of the other two consoles.
People should really lighten up on all the flaming with regard to which console is better or which game is best and try to remember that, occasionally, people will play games simply to have fun with their free time.
maybe the difference between ps3 and xbox 360? except for the first one that is clearly not in game
No. Square Enix just hyped up the game with their movie making department, but realizing that fitting a game on 10 blu-rays or 130 HDDVDs wouldn't sell the game well. So they opted for 1 bluray and 2 HDDVDs. Also does wonders for game framerate, as a PS3 wouldn't be able to render a game with the graphics of A Spirit Within or Advent Children over 5 FPS on a PS3.
>HDDVDs for games on 360
HAHAHAHAHA
Stop posting with my name, please.
hmm hope it's better than that.
机能不足
Agreed.
It might be.
360 with the superior resolution of course. After all look what happened to Ghostbusters and Vesperia.
its like the quality is degrading slowly...soon we'll see polygons....then 64 bit. NOOOOOOOO!!!!
8bit is the way to go!
Fuck yeah 8bit!
just wait till you see it on monochrome
i lived off of old school gaming, no complains for me :)
They had to tune it down becouse of xbox, sad.
True.
Probably the degradation is due to making it easier to port over to the 360.
It would've retained it's high quality graphics per the top image but since they decided to port it over to the severely limited 360, they had to dumb it down.
Like Vesperia? Ghostbusters? If anything its the PS3 that has technical limitations.
All systems have technical limitations.
360 makes your e-peen bigger. It attracts the ladies found in
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/06/30/xbox-360-ideal-actuality/
Except neither games nor their core engines were developed on the ps3.
Please use sound logic.
The logic is the the 360 overpowers the PS3 on multiconsole releases.
You can try to suggest that exclusivity and ground up development solely on the PS3 will change things but that's hypothesis at best.
Factually, proven by the multiconsole releases, the PS3 is unable to even equal the 360 in graphic resolution. If anything, the PS3 is holding the graphic quality of FF13 back and it should be of superior quality if they didn't have to take Sony's graphic limitations into consideration.
Wait till the PS3 can match the 360's graphic resolution in a multiconsole release before you dream of any PS3 exclusive developed title to be any different.
That's what PS3 Fanboys actually believe.
Fake Storm Wing is FAKE. I think you're the one who make Forlourned kinda pissed off.
Clearly you have never played on an Xbox before.
I'll say becouse of ps3 . Every multiplatform game sucks on ps3 with lower res ,textures and frames per second . PS3's hardware is only good on paper like ps2 . Sony just did not learn on their mistakes with ps2 hardware ;] . I'll say that they're good with promoting crap .
Wow, you continue to post shit. PS2 was THE best console in the last gen. YOU SIMPLY CANNOT DENY IT.
yet that says nothing about the ps3 because ps2=/= ps3
Did you know that your X360 intern never really works with HD resolutions the original resuliton developers use on the 360 is 1024x5xx something in that area.
i want it but doesnt have ps3! T_T im just a poor boy
I need no sympathy...
Because I'm easy come, easy go...
Little High, Little Low...
Anyway the wind blows,doesnt really matter to me,
To me
Freddie Mercury is a dicknibbler.
Discuss.
"this is slightly disappointing"
You're too kind, Artefact.
maybe he likes ps3 more
just as i expected... the distance between x360 and ps3 can't be large, for the technology can't go so fast
When I see Vanira the only thought in my mind is "I wanna fuck you."
frankly, the difference is marginal and an acceptable reduction of detail for limited hardware.
gaming consoles are not (yet) up to the task of producing raytracing quality images. then again, would a dual gtx295 + a quadcore-i7 with 32gb ram be? at least that combination can get you a higher resolution at the same quality.
fanboyism aside, shouldn't we be talking about what's wrong with the pictures instead of what's wrong with the systems?
there's an obvious polygon loss in the bottom pics, bulkier textures, less anti-aliasing.
background also looks to have taken a hit, less detail in favor of an easier to replicate texture pack. top looks drawn, bottom looks more 'filled'.
there might even be more defects if you look closer...
It looks awful for a AAA game with over 6 years of development.
Well there are some small improvements in some areas while some details have been lost. I hold my judgment on the matter as there is still about 5 months till release in Japan, but then again the US releases are usually improved upon before as well as other FF/KH games with the final version being Japan only release. Still the demo I imported is still beautiful as hell on my PS3 and I look forward to the some optimization to get this thing looking even better.
All of you assuming that it is a difference between PS3 and 360 are a bunch of idiots.
On the topic, it happens often: first the company releases a promotional CG video, which is done on a highly powerful machines capable of rendering it (no console or mainstream PC would be enough for this task), and only then they develop and show us the video based on the real engine that powers the game.
This happend with Motorstorm and Killzone 2 when the PS3 was still in the development.
They should have a clause somewhere.
This promo was made with actual game footage!
Maybe but i think that they didnt used limited console hardware for that ;p. First tech demo was running on good pc as i know .
Seconded.
Shame on you all for turning this into a childish console war.
It is amusing that people are so desperate for a console battle that they have to pretend this is a comparison of the two systems... It is of course an unfortunate fact of game marketing that pre-release footage is totally fanciful.
Any chances they'll have a patch after the game is out to improve the graphics?
the "fanciful pre-release footage" is called Target Render, because that's what the developers are aiming for the actual game engine to look like.
learn the lingo ppl before you post comments pretending to be gurus.
and the trolling console fanboys need to die, two years ago.
Motor Storm?
I know i know but the difference is just way too big. Those screens seems taken from White Knight Chronicles or Magna Carta 2. Square has been working on it for 6 years it should look way better than this even if they´re busy reallocating resources for the multi-plat version.
I say they just port it to PC and let's be done with it.
itll end up like ff7 ultima edition, all the music will be different and itll look like crap
FYI: Ultima Edition is a Hong-Kong rip off of the game. Not produced by squeenix (then squaresoft) at all.
Why? FF7 looked and sounded like crap cos of the state of hardware and drivers at that time. Music in FF7 were in midi mixed with Yamaha Synth software. They improved with FF8 already albeit with glitches mainly in the sound. With SE's experience producing games for the PC now (mainly from FF11) I really fail to see how a PC port will not work, besides the high system reqs.
Still lookings amazing to me.
That's because you're blind.
Well ... that happens when you go multi-platform ... you have to make compromises.
That's why PS3 exclusives looking so much better than 360 exclusives or PS3/360/PC multi-platform games.
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N
I'm waiting for both versions to come out before I decide which one to pick up.
FF is not one of the titles I'm particularly waiting for so a couple of months is no big deal. My money will go to whichever gives a better product.
At the moment I suspect its the 360, recent history suggests so, but I've no problems with the PS3 being superior. Lets face it, bias aside, multiplatform titles seem to do better on the 360.
Looks fine to me either way :}
I totally agree with you. Who cares anyway, I wouldn't care even if the graphics looked like the shitiest thing on earth as long as I have fun graphics don't matter to me.
First ones obviously don't use the current game engine. Just a promotional CG video...
i believe there is a ps3 porting to 360 issue, also its a general marketing/gaming production technique to raise the demo/pre-release ver of the game to attract attention. but most importantly, comparing to the original quality of the game, it is not 'visually stunning' anymore. it is losing too much definition and details (esp. background and hair)
was going to buy a ps3 when the game release, but now have to think twice...
...The hell? Second set of images looks like a PS2 game.
Actually, how are the demo's graphics? Those would probably be a better indication at this point than random screenshots.
The demo's graphics are closer to the first set of images....though there is some pixelation. Btw I'm running the game in 720p. The second set of images look like something that belongs on a SDTV. Sadly I do not have a video of me playing the game...but GameSpot does. =)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0WYtky_pAc
Why did they add so much BLOOOOOOM. Fucking shit. And it started looking pixelated too.
Who cares? It still looks awesome! This is one of those cases when people are being far too picky...
Of course they had to degrade the graphics, otherwise the X360-version would've needed 13 Discs for the entire game. X360 is forcing PS3 to stoop to its level.
Enough console fanboy-ism. if it's really about the 360 port that we lost quality, then we just have to wait for FF Versus 13 for the good stuff. If that ends up looking like shit... I guess we got PWNd,
It's still amazing looking CG though.
The first image of lightning with her sword is cg used in promotion shots ages ago, the second is real time from the demo.
There is no loss in quality, you're comparing cg images to real time images.
It is rather simple to find the reason for this degradation.
I mean they create the White Engine originally only for the PS3 and then changed it to a multi Engine even including the Wii and PC, even after they buyed the U3 for their multi games.
Of course this Engine isn't able to produce the same quallity as before on either system, because no system can now be used to its peak.
I never heard of a multi Engine that could bring multiple systems to its peak in a positive.
I suspect the 360 release being later will bump up the quality and fix these flaws.
I know a lot of people are comparing top to botton with PS3 and 360, but really, it's just square being as lazy as ever trying to spew out another FF title.
spew it out?
they've been working on ff13 for over 3 fucking years, not a rush job.
This is what happens when you have to focus on creating a similar looking game on multiple consoles. Thank Microsoft and their money bags.
I learned my lesson to not touch Final Fantasy after FFVIII... Square markets its games using prerendered CG footage, which is nothing like the in-game graphics. All flash and barely any play... heck even in-game battles are nothing more than selecting menus and watching special moves and spell effects animations. Of the dozens of hours consumed in a modern FF game, a majority is WATCHING videos instead of actual gameplay. Although I was really tempted with IX.
I could care less about how many polys this or that or whether something is true HD or upscaled. Give me back my hand-drawn sprites in my RPGs dammit.
I am now thinking twice about getting a PS3 just for Final Fantasy XIII.
I'll just wait for the JP release and see how it looks like. If it's the same as the demo, I'd definitely get it, otherwise, no.
I ain't paying buckloads for a shit-looking game on a supposed superior console.
Final fnatasy for 360 is gonna be a sucker man
since the graphics quality is lover than ps3
besides ff13 may be good
but ffversus 13 (the next ff13 game featuring kingdom hearts-like gameplay)
is ps3 exclusive
so suck on that 360 ppl
ff14 will be for ps3 and pc so suck on that 360
heres an awesome link for final fantasy versus 13 trailer, to me it looks better then ff13
http://www.gametrailers.com/game/final-fantasy-versus-xiii/3498
versus doesn't even have ANY gameplay videos so your statement FAILS
oh shit man. PS3 is already limiting the prowess of my highend rig.
Hope FF14 will be PC exclusive so i don't have to stare at a crappy port with low res textures all the time.
.... i really love fanbois <3 btw: if M$ spends a few more $$$, FFv13 might become multiplatform as well. lol
Who gives a shit anyways?! True Gamers have both plattforms, because both Systems do have great exclusives. Thats a fact no one can deny. On top of that, multiplattformers are supposed to be played at the highest quality possible.
I'll buy the best looking version of FF13 and i don't care what system it will be... even if it means that i've to wait for a superior PC version. lol
suck on that aussie guy
It could be a timed exclusive. These days exclusives jump ship after a while. Often with a handful of extras.
Of course if its a title you really want, the early bird advantage dominates any extras the delayed version could have.\
There's no way we have info on FF14 either.
Maybe you should buy a 360 then you won't have this chronic psychosis like Artefact.
when you suck on the cock of sony do you spit or swallow fanboy?
If there is a wii there's a way!
Square already stated that the 360 version will not compromise the ps3 version.
Also the 360 has a better graphics chip so will you stupid fanboys kindly stfu
"Better graphics chip?"
WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA~!!!
Since when?
You obviously don't know what your talking about the PS3 uses basically a nVidia 7800GTX GPU which has less processing power than the xbox's GPU.
If you know anything about computers you’ll know a machine is only as strong as it’s weakest component
Atleast the nVidia GPU 7800GTX was custimised with Sony together instead of just taking an ATI desktop GPU for the X360 and even so this difference is minor between the GPUs.
And even so what is better, that it has 512MB VRAM instead of 256MB.
With its superior CPU the PS3 could use Procedural textures which are far superior to normal textures (less size, work on every resolution without any loss in quality, no need for anti alaising and so on), but that won't work so good if they have to include the another system.
Still this only a way, they never said something about procedural textures for this game.
lulzy for the lulz
the ps3 has a better processor
the xbox has a better graphics chip
you obviously know jack shit mr dumb fucking fanboy
Just because the 360 supposedly has a better graphics chip doesn't mean games automatically look better. Retards don't want to acknowledge the 360 still has shitty games with bad graphics done by uninspired college graduates just like everyone else.
If you have better graphic hardware, you can perform better graphics if you work hard.
Its not an automatic given but its something the PS3 just can't do. Mutliplatform releases have shown the the PS3 at best is equal to the 360 and more often then not falls significantly below in graphic output.
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fuck poligons
For the first set of images, personally i like the darker one, it seems more be fitting for that sceen
It really looks wonderful when you play it! I usually move the camera around to get the details across the map before entering battles.
by darker you meant....... above or below?
Seriously u xbox360 fans are just a bunch of noob? you know why the graphic get degrade? it is because u fucking piece of 360 cannot support the graphic where ps3 suppose to handle.PS3 can handle that graphic as smooth as silk.1 more thing when the game out 360 MAYBE would need 4 dics? that SUCK CORE DUDE PS1 Style? omg cannot support what a lame machine? for ps3 just need 1 dics thats not all why i say ps3 superior ? because the graphic is better : Killzone2,MGS4,Uncharted,GOW actually i just need to said killzone2 beat the crap out of gay master chief i play 3 series in the cpu of halo and it freaking bored me out.Graphic is suck.What else.360 suck core man.Compare to the upcoming game for ps3,360 are way behind.So conclusion 360 suck.If u think i'm a ps3 fanboy go ahead it's fact not fiction.
a game can look pretty, but still play like shit like a Lamborghini, and how it sucks in traction. oh btw, if they do it right, MAGS might be great, hopefully the controls aren't as clunky
I thought it was obvious from the start those promotional screenshots were CG and not in-game, it was the sort of thing that comes out during E3 (which they did) and the fanboys drool over and believe are real, no?
Also, this is just evidence this is an unfulfilled promise, I thought this is the game bringing CG-like graphics in realtime, but in-game it looks remarkably worse than some other PS3-offerings, with poor textures in the environments.
However, the character models do impress.
Obviusly Sony have the same Shitty problem of creepy squared edges on polygons of all live, and have a blurry sense to disguise them, compare the soulcalibur 4 of xbox and PS3, and you notice PS3 version looks very weird and blurred
I don't think it has anything to do with porting.
Game developers often release screenshots eairly in the development phase at high resolutions, before they actually have the game running on a console.
Meh, the game still looks incredible.
Also, I can't help but notice how tame the attitude is when a ps3 story like this shows up on this site. If this was a story about the 360 or the Wii, you can bet that we would have gotten some nice biased remarks included with the story, instead of a simple "this is slightly disappointing". The polarity in the attitude between ps3 and "wii/360" stories on this site is disgusting.
...I must be the only one who thinks the 'polygonal' ones are actually better looking. X3
Too realistic is just what it is - it's 'too realistic'. I'll quit gaming the day everything looks exact to looking at a human being. Actually, that might explain why I avoid a lot of more recent games...
Nah, I agree with you as well. Developers these days are too worried about making their super shiny, ultra-realistic graphics when they should focus more on the gameplay aspect. Why would I want to play the same rehashed game that just looks prettier?
Not surprised the actual gameplay footage is downgraded, they do this all of the time for promotional ads. Stop your stupid console argument, peoples. :P
Problem with this also is that the games tend to be shorter when the graphics are the focal point. Seems to be getting more common, and that saddens me.
I dont care for these comparison things I Just Like The Game so that i can play it at my home for years ^^
Wow - Square sure did drop the ball in a big way.
I know graphics aren't everything...
... but this is a Final Fantasy game. Ever since the PlayStation era - YES - graphics are everything for the Final Fantasy series.
Eye candy is the only selling-point I see for this series, unless you happen to be one of the millions of people that are still charmed by the same character archetypes, same plot/scenarios and same battle systems that we've had for more than a decade now.
I don't see that huge of a difference. Then again, I'm not that visual a person. But to the poster above---if the graphics are the main selling point for FF for you, you could probably do better elsewhere. Personally, I guess I am just the kind of sap who likes Squares stories and characters---I even prefer traditional turn based combat to quasi-real time as in FFXII. I'd sooner play WoW if I wanted the later.
This entire post smells of trolling to me.
all those people bitching about graphics make me wish to go back to the 8/16-bit era when gameplay was more important
Oh, noes!!! They didn't look good in the first place. Gameplay and story are the only important things and even then one can hold up the other if it is lacking in one regard.
lol fighting over craps..why dont buy both and play on both..that would satisfy both sides..world peace!:D
will the console war never end. Both systems have their merits and competition is a good thing.
Oh this sucks !
Fuck it all. I don't care about SUPER AMAZING EYE-BLEEDINGLY GREAT REALISTIC ULTRA AWESOME GRAPHICS, I want artistic games. Look at Okami. It's a great game, and graphic quality don't matter there because it's artistic! If people stopped aiming for realism, and instead made things artistic, then games could be fun for a change!
I for one would like to play a game where it starts out super realistic and then turns into a cartoony wonderland where anything can and WILL happen. Like the Wizard of Oz. Something like that would make me cry TEARS OF JOY...but it's a shame everyone's too busy waiting for GRITTY SHOOTAN GAME 6 to care about artsy fartsy FUN games.
Peeps have short memories it seems.
Anyone remembers MGS2 on dev tool versus MGS2 on PS2?
Same effect exactly.
If they DID downgrade 13 visual quality so 360 retards, excuse me, fans, can't complain about the difference with the PS3 version, it is inded the dumbest move ever.
As long as it looks as good as the demo did, it's more than fine enough to me.
Doesn't bother me, the girls are still hot~
PS3 for japanese games. (FF, MGS, GT etc)
XBOX360 for the western games. (Halo, GTA, GOW etc)
PC for everything.
solved.
PC= BORRED RPGS
The otakuish titles are on the 360 you know.
im@s, dream club, etc.
This game will decide which system is better in terms of graphics. Still,.. this game is taking for ever to be released. It did however save me $400 dollars. This is the one game that would of made me buy a PS3.
If history is anything to go by, the better-looking shots are most likely from the 360 version.
All 360/PS3 multiplatform games released so far have either looked and/or ran better on the 360 or (more rarely) are the same.
The only PS3 games that actually look good are exclusives build from the ground up on the PS3.
Comparing the 3D capabilities of the PS3 and 360 is like comparing the 2D capabilities of the Sega Saturn and PS1. Saturn was technically supperior in that regard, but was only noticeable in games designed for it, which weren't very many (because the system was less popular than the competition, was more expensive, and the extra processor thrown in at the last minute made it a pain in the ass to program for. Sound familiar?). Too bad the PS3's library of exclusives isn't as good as the Saturn's.
The Saturn gave me way more happiness then the PS1.
Yeah, the Saturn gave me more happiness too. Unfortunately, I can't say the same for the PS3 and its current library. The 360 is far more Saturn-like in that regard, I think.
I wouldn't go that far.
The PS3 is fairly Saturn-ish. Its the one with less market penetration and a supposedly more powerful hardware that's difficult to program for.
The 360 is fairly PS1-ish. Its the supposedly weaker hardware console with strong market penetration and popular amongst the developers for its ease of programming.
The big difference here is, graphically it seems the 360 stole the Saturn attribute for domination. Looking at the multiplatform releases, the 360 beats the PS3 the same way the old Saturn beat the PS1.
That wasn't the case with 2D games that were built for the PS1 first and then later ported to the Saturn. Castlevania SotN is a great example.
That is what you get when a game is released for both consoles, the ps3 version is dumb down so it can be ported to the inferior shitbox
I'm sorry, but I think you've missed the point,
as far as I can tell, those are "FMV" vs "in-game" comparison
When you see it like that, of course it's very clear there's a wide gap between them
because even on PS3, in-game models supposed to be low poly (about 10000 tris per char for next-gen machine usually), otherwise the machine (PS3, XBOX360, etc) can't play the game with enough framerates (slowdown or stuttering while playing)
On the other hand, FMV models are almost not limited by machine capability because they're pre-rendered (played as video, not in real-time)
Uncharted 60000
Mmmm not bad.... probably would be better on PC...oh well.
Looks fine, hopefully this game is actually good, I didn't enjoy that past couple offerings, or anything from Square in years.
They had to cut back the grpahics AND the battle system to work on the 360 platform.
Im sure they would have lvoed to make it a ps3 exclusive but we have fucktards fapping to FPS in america so they all gobble on the 360 knob.
Sadly because of people mass buying the 360 cause of their terrible taste in mass reproduced FPS there are a lot of games that arnt being released in the states that pwn all those FPS that you all fap to.
The hardware of the PS3 itself pwns the 360 drastically. Sadly though marketing is about making money. And multiplatforming will make you the most money.
Those are not true people, that person just took the TGS 08 picture and said it's the "newer" build. Proof here guys:
http://forums.gametrailers.com/thread/ffxiii---no--downgrade-/883918#message
Oh, so the demo was a year old build!? I can't wait to see what it turns out in the finished product now since I thought the demo was beautiful.
squeenix kyo-ani much?
All I'm getting from all these comments is "My console is better than yours because it's the one mommy bought me".
Everyone, grow the fuck up.
?????????Why did it suddenly turn into a console war???
Not sure.
above: rendered version
below: PS3 version
not yet pictured/none?: XBOX version
other post: butthurt post
I don't care to much about the graphics I just want the game to be fun...
I think the upper pic is from PS3 and the below one is 360 and I also think PS3 ones are CG and 360 ones are in-game graphic cut scene (due to space shortage)
The original pics were clearly from a pre-rendered FMV used to conceptualize several scenarios from the game. Designers do it all the time.
However, if the games was made specifically for either one of the platforms, and was built around the strength of the platform, it could have ended up looking almost identical to the FMVs. This would have been easier to do, if Square had developed it for the PS3 only, so they could have optimized it for it's hardware and built around the fabulous Cell - Processor.
If only, if only...
still looks fucking great
LOL. XBAWKS GOT THE RETARDED GRAPHICS.
Final Fantasy sequels (except the spin-offs) are supposed to be PLAYSTATION-EXCLUSIVE.
But, since XBOX games are so sucky, I guess Square Enix gave them a chance to make the most out of the 360. XD
Too bad, they won't get FFXIII: Versus. NYARHARHAR
Top picture is xbox 360 version
Bottom pisture is ps 3 version
I actually OWN the game and I gotta say, I don't even remember the second screenshot. and Vanilla looks NOTHING like that crummy version of her.
But can it play crysis?
no its the PS3 slim low GFX chek it by ur self
The first pict are from pre-rendered FMV, the second picts use the actual in-game engine. Apples to oranges, you can't really compare and say the game was degraded.