An exhibition of anime art to be held at the Palace of Versailles has been condemned as being a blasphemous insult to the cultural glory of France.
The artist in question is none other than manga-influenced Japanese artist Takashi Murakami, also recently involved in subverting Britney Spears for the purpose of protecting loli manga.
French conservatives are angry that Murakami’s art, which includes such works as the $15 million “My Lonesome Cowboy,” a life-size anime figure of a copiously ejaculating man, and “Hiropon”, a similar figure rendition of a lactating girl in a bikini, is to be displayed at the Palace of Versailles, long a symbol of the supposed cultural preeminence and glory of France.
The group protesting the exhibition, Coordination Défense de Versailles, has apparently collected 3,600 signatures in support of its opposition:
“No to the provocation of contemporary art, which respects nothing. No to the attacks on cultural harmony – Murakami’s cartoons might, perhaps, be fit for the Orangerie, but never for the Palace of Versailles itself, which is not some crass advertising board but a symbol of our history and culture.”
The exhibition is, they allege, all part of a grand scheme to destroy traditional French culture:
“For 2 years, the great royal apartments, gardens and the royal opera have been subjected to the politics of international neo-vandalism, pornographic provocations and the sexist denigration of women, destroying our prestige and ridiculing France.”
The tract’s histrionics are almost worthy of Agnes Chan herself – “Don’t sacrifice our children and artists!”, it urges:
Assuming it goes ahead unmolested, the exposition will be open to public viewing at the Palace of Versailles for 6 months from the 14th of September through to the 27th of February, 2011.
Update: “My Lonesome Cowboy” and “Hiropon” are apparently not in any way featured in the exhibition, which consists solely of some of Murakami’s other works, which nobody is interested in.
In spite of this, the mere fact Murakami created such works is apparently enough to condemn him – even critics who know the works are not being displayed insist they render him unworthy:
“The young man with an erect penis whose sperm forms a lasso, the little woman with big breasts whose milk forms a skipping rope – these have no place in the royal apartments.”
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I thought the european conservative groups were more mind open. But it seems all conservatives are the same shit in every part of the world I guess. It reminds me an episode of the Simpsons, when Flander's wife and the priest's wife were making movements to close the David's exibition on the Springfield's Museum just for the nude and genitalia issues. (Sigh) These people.
Normally I would be against the idea of this gallery's plan to block selected art, but the artical is written in such a biased, obnoxious French bashing way that it almost has me side with the protesters on this one, almost.
The chick's bikini and hair color switch between pictures . . . lol wut?
I can see where France is coming from.
But I hate France so fuck them.
No FUCK YOU motherfucker!
Remember, these are the same 'highly-cultured' people that are currently kicking all the gypsies out of their country.
I'm french, fan of manga, anime, visual novels and more and I don't support them...
When I see this I am not proud to be french...
It's not like they destroy the palace of Versailles, fucking idiots !!
And why do they talk about children ?? Children don't have to be saved in that case, it's them for making this tract...
Don't forget that people who made this tract and people who read manga are not the same.
Although I don't like these figure, I'm not against this exhibition.
Sorry for my English, which is not very good I think ^^'.
honestly the 2 figures we see here are ugly.
when i first looked to asian porn it was because visual were way more artistic than some bitch we see on the west... but these 2 figures don't have at all this asian style.
for me it look simply like US/euro porn, not at all asian art.
When I first saw "My Lonesome Cowboy", I was shocked, then I laughed.
I wouldn't personally consider it 'art', as in, 'something which goes into an art museum'.
One definition of 'art' is 'something that makes people react'.
Who's to say?
So again they want to freeze time and preserve a hypothetical golden age - this time, where art meant French art?
Also, equality is not sexist, despite what feminist extremists would have you believe...
...and these sculptures are OLD now. I'd be surprised if the originals were even in good shape anymore. Clearly they're not an insult to France. They are however, an insult to anime.
Japan trolls France lol
Stupid cock fags american ... you know french can hate an insult other poeple too ..
quite hating french , becoz they don't want ridiculus thing in a place where kings lived , i would like to ask American conservatives if they'd like these in the white house or independance hall ?
theres 65milions of french , a bunch a young and stupid ones , but there loottttts more in USA if you compare the populations at least our conservatives doesn't cry for the right to hold a gun whenever you want , god bless that ! retards french haters !
This shit doesn't belong in the Palace of Versailles. Classic art goes there, those anime statues are more pop-art Andy Warhol things. Not something that belongs in a classy art center.
What is it ? Rednecks vs French ? Stop baiting trolls please, let them use your crapload.
Americans ain't got these kind of problems anyway, who wants to show art in their dumbfuck country ?
Always remember, sub-product of British empire, that without Lafayette, you would still pay taxes to the Crown, sing God save the Queen for an anthem, and say "freshen your drink, Guv'nah ?" while serving tea at 5'o clock
I'm sorry, but for once I actually agree with the opposition. Such things should not be displayed in the palace of Versailles. It's just fundamentally wrong. I highly doubt Murakami actually respects his own country's royal family and palace, but one should take into consideration time and place when attempting to display erotic figures to the public. With a country like France where their history is something they place much pride in one should not keep pushing for something that has insulted them.
"French Culture" is already dead for years...
Who this group of suckers think they are, to decide what is "culture" and what isn't ? -_-'
(and yeah, I'm French)
true that french culture is no more,
but still we have some symbols left, and they should remain in context, for the same reasons i don't want to see an oktoberfest at the great pyramids of Giseh or the Pinder circus in a japanese temple, Versailles is Versailles...
second that
I agree, this has no place in the Palace of Versailles. Sure it might be interesting for some but it just isn't the right place for it...
is that even art? is it disgusting
Art makes you feel. This made you feel disgusted.
By that logic, trolling is an art, and while I want to destroy trolls, I'm cool with that conclusion too...
I can't stand Murakami, but... yeah, that's art. So is the Coca-Cola logo... it's hard to make something that's not art unless you can just go for the hardcore engineer's POV and make something strictly functional.
Please don't judge us French folks based on some extremist conservative retarded fuckers.
Conservative retarded fuckers are and always will be conservative retarded fuckers.
The country the come from doesn't matter...
It's not an insult to France.
Murakami’s figurines are, however, stupid, pretentious asinine, poorly designed crap that's probably intended as a pathetic joke.
The fact that it's apparently being taken seriously makes it an insult to EVERYONE.
It is well know that Murakami has no talent.
Look at how he talk and show off on TV.
He has managed to have relation to promote his "art" and make people pay big money for it.
But anyway, it is like that with most famous modern artist...
One of my japanese friend told me that actually he have a lot of poorly paid assistant in his design office.
Well, at least it will not change for them from working for a famous mangaka anyway.
Those sexist feminist cunts need to shut up.
Typical to single out the "sexist denigration of women" and completely ignoring the statue of the guy.
I don't care about the "art" either way, but that kind of sexist feminist bullshit needs to stop.
Oh yeah! I've seen those sculptures. I was amazed.
This isn't an insult to France, this is an insult to the world of art.
Une bonne place pour entreposer ces modèles serait au centre d'un feu de bois.
HALT DIE FRESSE.
^^^^lol german
The first figure is from the anime MAR. It's a figure of Ginta holding the perfect "arm".
WOW!
i love how everyone on here hates his works
And this is where Louis the XIV would hold court while his doctor would treat his infected hemorrhoids.
I fart in your general direction, French neo-cons!
3600 is really not a lot...
Pfff facon, On peut rien mettre de spéciale en France que ce soit choquant ou bien comme ses statues de mangas.
Et puis au moins, ca change d'art dans un musée que de voir que des vieux truc qui sent la mort, serieux quoi ! Les vieux sont idiots et ne veut pas changer dans leur tete -_-
On voit l'esprit français....Quand tu essaye de porter un cosplay comme mon ami un jour et que tu te retrouve a la police parce que tu est habiller comme Cloud dans Final Fantasy VII et que les gens ont dit qui était un pedophile (alors que je ne vois pas le meme sujet mais bon)
Enfin pour dire que j'ai Honte de la France >_> et puis...Un gloire de la france...Il a disparu depuis longtemps ^^"
Well That's the Xenophobic Europeans for you! at Least it made me feel better about the UK...
Il y a des moments....J'ai Honte d'etre Français.
C'est pas compliquer, Il censure tout quand ca parle de manga dans ce Pays de Merde.
Heureusement que je pars de temps en Temps au Japon pour me ressourcer de manga ^^
Fucking Frenchies.
ok all calm down!.
i finally got the answer.
Murakami exposure can't be made because (and now i quote):
the doors are not large enough because they miss 1 inch to enter the room the exibition was supposed to be.
Just got that news from a friend working in versailles.
Most stupid and obnoxious answer ever!!!
and now quoting my fellow french citizen: shame on france big time!
"Country of the human rights"...this sentence make me laugh whenever i look at the news.
glory??... wft man... france is one of the most losers countries in the world
like seriously.... what happened to the world.... (breaks down and cries uncontrollably)
lol why is it there in the first place? if france don't want this kind of things they should just stop importing it all together.
that shit is awesome, so fuck france...
3600 people support their block? Let's see if we get 36000 people on Sankaku to support Murakami.
Glory of France? what glory xD
It'd be pretty damn epic to have that kind of a statue in the hallway: "Yes, please leave your shoes at the feet of the statue. Oh, and watch out, it's worth $15M."
Glory to God for having the people stop this! :D
You don't see Americans complain every time Jacques Pepin starts lisping and slobbering all over PBS (or Bravo)... that's supposed to be a classy network...
I don't particularly dig these works, but at the same time, there is a lot of art, new and old, that I find really offensive but are displayed in museums and other public areas all of the time. The people of France have a right to decide what is and isn't shown in their museums, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with the decision at all. Really, it just seems to me that the people who formed the petition are just being uppity about newer and different art.
Also, how is this even an issue, when these two works are being exhibited in the first place? I'm sure there are artists with stuff in the Versailles right now who have done less than savory things, so Murakami should be allowed to display some of his other stuff as well, assuming it's not as...gratuitous as these two joints.
Great, so where his stuff tries to criticize otaku culture people will think this represents anime instead.
So...
They're bitching about displaying works of art that aren't going to be displayed?
Shit, man.
As much as I love my country, it looks like US hysteria is spreading like a disease.
looks like another french revolution is needed...
Ridiculing France? I though they had gotten use to it by now.
Wow. For someone to say something like that, for someone to protest something like that in the 21st century is an eye opener...
I thought that we're in the post-modern era of art, where anything goes?
Murakami's works are a critique of anime and Japanese pop culture...he is not making porn or even endorsing anime stuff.
Anyways this stuff isn't even being shown, his other works aren't pornographic for the most part...generally flowers and bears.
He even did art for Louis Vuitton (and a commercial for them too) so he is generally held in high regard...
Videos (commercials/short films/whatever for Louis Vuitton): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4C84FLwm3DA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqaXxSBZTZc
This year's collab: http://www.butterboom.com/2010/05/07/louis-vuitton-releases-cosmic-blossom-collection/
Previous designs for the collab: http://www.google.com/images?q=murakami+vuitton&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=xnV8TImECJD4sAOmvf2CBw&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=7&ved=0CEUQsAQwBg&biw=1389&bih=1065 [http://www.google.com/images?q=murakami vuitton&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=xnV8TImECJD4sAOmvf2CBw&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=7&ved=0CEUQsAQwBg&biw=1389&bih=1065]
Ok, anime art is an "Insult to France"...
They call THIS an "Insult to France"!?!?!?!
If so this is not even the BEGINNING of insult to France. I could do so much better, even in casual thought...
Uh, do they have figures from the "Moe Moe Nazi" encyclopedia...
Like "Ze Frenche Collaboratore"... Showing an anime chick dressed in classic "Hello, sailor!" French hooker garb who's got a fresh bloody swastika brand on her butt and she's fingering herself as she's giving oral-anal sex to a Moe Nazi...?
"Ze Libertine" showing an Anime-esque De-Sade flogging a nearly naked "French Maid"?
"Ze Weakling Cowarde" showing a French police man hiding in the bushes wetting himself as angry youth torch cars, rob parking meters, etc.
"Ze Fashionable Rebel" showing a callow beret wearing youth dressed up in the most cliche of 'beatnick' fashion, with the expensive price tags dangling from everything from the beret to the latte...
"Ze Forgotten dead olde Fogey" showing a putrefying old man dead in a tub ala rotten dot com's "Boiled Broth of Man" picture, and an air conditioner marked "Out of Order"...
Last, but not least, two French "Mimes" one thin, one heavy, both enjoying wine, cheese and Frog Legs and about to commit the Sin of Sodom... It's called, what else...
"Ze FROG-Eating FAGGOTS!"
>>Ok, anime art is an "Insult to France"...
>>They call THIS an "Insult to France"!?!?!?!
About the France I know nothing, but for Japanese it is a insult to anime and manga.
There are thousands of figures what would be more "artistic" than this shit.
you sounds like a butthurt.
Damn japan your messe up
Just this time, this time I'm with France... WHAT THE FACK is that SHIT doing in Versailles!?
The director of the museum says that they intentionally brought his artwork here because they thought that otherwise people would never encounter these kind of artforms. But...isn't that the reason people go to Versailles? To not encounter these ''artforms''.
I like Murakami's work, I'm French and I can't wait for this expo. The ones that are complaining want old castles to be dead museums, they're the same that want a King back in France.
Not to say that Murakami himself said that his most extrem works were sorted out of this expo, so it's highely likely that My Lonesome Cowboy and Hiropon won't be there.
And another thing, there won't be any painting, only statues, because Versailles forbids to put paintings on the castle's walls.
I think that in fact, everything has been made to respect the Chateau de Versailles.
So IMHO they're just stupid and rich people that just complain because they have nothing else to do. A few years ago Murakami did an expo in Paris and we could see an advertisement featuring Hiropon on 4x3m signs everywhere in Paris' metro, and NO ONE complained ever.
But the very same people that complain now never takes the metro...
Anyway, here in France the press doesn't really talk about this. Most likely they will talk about the expo when it starts, not about the complains.
Que ça te plaise, c'est un compte, que pour ma part je n'aime pas l'idée qu'une poignée de bigots veulent interdire l'expo, c'est un autre compte.
Apres c'est de l'art c'est subjectif, tu aimes, j'aime pas. Catégorise pas en disant :
-Les gens qui aiment pas = les riches = la cabale Versaillaise bcbg royaliste qui veut interdire ça.
contre
-les gens avant-gardistes qui aiment ça, et eux c'est les mecs intelligents.
C'est de l'art moderne, fait pour surprendre et choquer, je trouve ça moche, mais après faire un foin pour l'interdire, on est pas encore en Irak.
le problème n'est pas tant de décider si ça doit être interdit ou pas, mais plutôt de se demander si Versailles est bien l'endroit pour ça ...
Je n'ai pas dit ceux qui n'aiment pas sont des royalistes.
J'ai dit : ceux qui se plaignent sont des royalistes.
Après c'est peut-être un raccourci un peu facile, je l'admet. Mais regarde mon lien sur le procès intenté par de Bourbon-Parme. Je pense qu'il s'agit du même genre de personne qui s'attaque à cette expo.
Après, on peut être d'accord ou pas sur le fait que cette expo puisse ce tenir là. Mais cette attaque pue le royalisme extrêmiste à plein nez.
En plus, si on avait encore un roi, qui dit qu'il n'aurait pas voulu de cette expo dans son château ? Louis XIV est mort depuis longtemps ! Les monarques actuels sont bien plus modernes, ex. la magnifique expo qu'il y a en ce moment à Monaco (Kyoto-Tokyo) au Forum Grimaldi...
Bref c'est juste une minorité qui veut faire chier pour montrer qu'elle existe. Ils oublient peut-être un peu vite que Murakami est très apprécié à droite aussi (sinon il ne vendrait pas aussi cher) ;)
J'oubliais pour étayer mon point sur les monarques actuels : expo sponsorisée par le Qatar, qui est bien sûr comme tout le monde le sait une république démocratique et qui n'a rien à voir avec une quelconque notion de monarchie.
Effectivement, bon exemple avec l'expo de Monaco, que j'ai eu la chance de voir.
Non, c'est juste qu'il suffit de ne pas en faire un foin, pour ma part habitant en province, on n'a pas eu encore d'échos de ladite expo ou des tentatives pour la faire supprimer.
C'est a peu près la seule méthode potable pour s'en sortir : les ignorer. Ils ne sont représentatifs que d'eux-mêmes, dans la grande tradition (consanguine) de la noblesse qui ne se mélange pas avec le reste de la "piétaille".
Versailles n'est peut-être pas l'endroit où exposer ceci (bien que ..), mais les arguments utilisés sont tellement simplistes qu'ils se desservent eux-mêmes.
Enfin c'est la mode : 3000 cons font une pétition, un article sur SanCom, si 500 gars créent un groupe Facebook pour la défense de la zoophilie, ils auront un article dans le 20 heures probablement.
Could you source his statements directly? So far we have only seen the complaints, which are unsubtly suggesting those works are in...
Of course : (in French)
http://www.lefigaro.fr/culture/2010/06/09/03004-20100609ARTFIG00621-takashi-murakami-mon-versailles-version-manga.php
(Le Figaro is a right-wind-oriented newspaper)
(...)
- Will there be a "forbidden Murakami" at Versailles ? For example, will we be able to see My Lonesone Cowboy, like the one François Pinault exposed at Venice ?
- What shocked me is not being unable to show this sculpture, but not to be able to show my paintings because of cultural inheritance conservation. I am before all a painter, and I had to limit myself to show sculptures only.
- Safe ones ?
- There will be no My Lonesome Cowboy. This piece has been showed a lot of time anyway. Amongst the 20 exposed pieces, 6 or 7 are new. Others will be reworked in different versions, like Oval Buddha, which is a 6 meters tall sculpture.
(...)
Another one, still in French
http://www.rue89.com/2010/08/07/versailles-et-lart-contemporain-polemique-avant-lexpo-murakami-161293
And another one about the previous exhibition of Jeff Koons in Versailles. http://www.rue89.com/2008/12/24/koons-reste-a-versailles-nen-deplaise-a-lheritier-de-louis-xiv
"Prince" Charles-Emmanuel de Bourbon-Parme, the heir of Louis XIV (who built Versailles), brought the director of the Versailles Domain to court, and of course lost ("it's French Nation's palace, not his"). I quoted "Prince" since there's no official "Prince" recognized in France. He got a passport stating "His Royal Highness", because of his connections of course. Legally this means nothing here. I might even say that he should not brag about being the heir of Louis XIV too much, because the only thing the king had to bequeath was his own head.
true, i'm french and i learned about it here
but still, i find this expo insulting as a mere modern art provocation, i definitely regret the image of japan that it gives to visitors of versailles, and i do believe the author had to compensate talent by pornography to become famous
i also believe that the managers of Versailles were so desperate to need to have modern art expos there to bring some euros ....
hey, y'know why it's called "modern art"?
because the word "crap" was already taken .
I'd like to see the article where Murakami explicitly states he supports 'loli'.
Because so far I've seen no such thing. He's just continuing to do what he's been doing (and so many others before him, Jeff Koons anyone?) for years.
Has nothing to do with loli. Has everything to do with what cultures and even all humanity define art as.
Oh look Koons' work is in that little flyer.
Oh and the French can do whatever the fuck they want. If they don't think displaying these pieces in Versaille is ok then unless there's some revolution they certainly have the right to say 'no'.
Art ALWAYS has to stand the test of legitimacy. This has never not been the case. It is just easier and easier now because the state doesn't create the artists, the independently wealthy do. Murakami is just an illustrator of his lineage. Same with Jeff Koons. Same with Damien Hirst.
France saying artists don't have free reign to do whatever wherever they want is completely legit and nothing out of the ordinary.
Murakami does not represent anything more than a middle aged Japanese artist. That's the whole point.
Insult to France? Those figures are an insult to everyone... They look like crap.
I will give France credit in that they are correct that modern "art" is mostly shit (sometimes literally).
And we already get well enough of that modern art shit here
Why Versailles among all places ? If it's not for trolling the place and its decades of history, I just don't see the reason
The Germans parading their army through Paris was an insult to France. This is nothing.
i don't think a war parade is exactly an "insult", an insult is : you're a dickhead
no godwin point necessary for a good insult ;)
I have seen many beautiful anime/manga figures out there. Why are they using"those" as a museum piece representing Japan's manga and anime art.
Because someone paid $15 million for one of them so they must be fine art. How could something which cost only $70 and could be bought by practically anyone be considered fine art?
The price *is* the art.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veblen_good
:O =)
Fif... fifteen millions!? Dang, I better sculpt a figure of a fingering French Maid loli cumming like a properler water jet and see if that'll sell..
My-my-my... It's only thuesday, and we already have the best comment of the week.
Considering that whores must provide the best sex on the planet. ^_^
Only on the professional level.
Didn't you know that the more you pay for something, the better it gets!?!?
Okay I had a skim of their site, it looks like one of those fringe nationalistic groups, who can't seem to grasp the world has moved on for better or worse.
Haters gonna hate.
Those statues are horrible!!! They don't even have place in the garbage can!
Mostly agree with the old frenchies here. Versailles has no place for that kind of art. Besides, those things are ugly.
I wonder what america would say about those shits in the white house ? It's not about the anime and manga or even figures .. it's about the "grotesque" and uglyness of these ones .
Translated Real Thoughts: "Well that should get us enough headlines, it's hard enough to get any publicity these days. With any luck we should have a sell out show of comparatively obscure Asia statues."
Frankly "Outrageousness" in art is a cliche in itself.
Oh, and those figures are crap.
Cultural harmony,eh? What a joke! What harmony are they speaking of? The one where everything is fine as long as moralists don't have to bitch around?
Here's a good advice to all those effing femnazis, moralists and self-proclaimed saints:
If you don't like are certain type of art, shut the fuck up and mind your own business, idiots!
Looks shitty indeed. Very shitty.
"French conservatives are angry that Murakami’s art, such as the $15 million “My Lonesome Cowboy,” a life-size anime figure of a copiously ejaculating man, and “Hiropon”, a similar figure rendition of a lactating girl in a bikini, is to be displayed at the Palace of Versailles,"
Wrong, Artefact. Those works are not going to be displayed. Those are just some representative works of what he's done, but what will actually be displayed are other works.
Now, why would you want to put stuff like those in THE Versailles. That's just wrong on many levels.
That "art" is an insult to anyone living. It's so ugly.
I, personally, don't like having modern art in Versaille at all. It takes away from the whole point of the place when you have kinetic purple art in the middle of the hall of mirrors.
THE WHOLE THING IS AN INSULT TO FRENCH HISTORY, NOT JUST ANIME.
it is an insult to anime as well ...
France is an insult to the world.
France gave the Statue of Liberty to the American as a sign of friendship and to celebrate their freedom from the British... Are you American by any way?
Yeah not forgetting they wouldn't have won their indepedence without France, same country that sold them a large area of current USA and never been at war against them... Still they spit on France whenever they can. :D
Close minded .... you never been to france i bet , only know this country by your TV ? or the internet ? ...
Yourself, you're an insult to wisdom.