Censors Ban Ikkitousen for “Exaggerated Breast Jiggle”
- Author: Kip
- Categories: Games, H, News
- Date: May 21, 2009 20:14 JST
- Tags: Censorship, Fighting Games, Ikki Tousen, Oppai, Pantsu, PS2, Schoolgirls
International fans of panchira fighting anime Ikkitousen are voicing their anger at the decision of a game censorship body to effectively ban the latest game in the series, Ikkitousen: Shining Dragon, for the PS2.
Rather than tone down the content of the oppai fighting game in order to garner a more workable rating, the localisers instead opted to cancel the English language version.
The Entertainment Standards Ratings Board gave the latest Ikkitousen game a “mature” rating, a major blow for games hoping for widespread retail distribution, due to the nature of the game’s battle style which leaves characters nearly bereft of clothing.
They justified their decision thus:
All the female characters are dressed in short skirts or skirts with a high slit. The game features frequent depictions of panties, cleavage, and exaggerated breast jiggle. A special attack move allows some characters to rip opponents’ clothes to shreds – exposing even more of the female anatomy (legs, breasts, partial buttocks).
The mature rating would damage the game’s distribution, as stores are frequently reluctant to deal with such titles. The less damaging rating of “teen” would have prevented this. Generally, game publishers go to great lengths to manage the rating of their games to ensure ready access to shelf space.
Officials with Valcon Games, the company holding license rights to Ikkitousen games, said they could release a censored version of the game, but feel such a move would not remain true to the quasi-nudity characteristics for which the franchise is known, or as they put it:
“We could remove all the stuff that makes it an M-rated game, but then we don’t think the customers would be very happy buying an Ikki Tousen game without all the shredded clothing.”
The ESRB only speaks for North American releases, so it is possible the game may make its way to countries with less strict qualifications for appropriate fighting attire, although it seems unlikely anyone would bother.
The ESRB itself is known as something of a rigged organisation, as most of its raters “include retired school principals, parents, professionals, and other individuals from all walks of life,” but do not include actual gamers, akin to having movies rated by people who have never seen one and only see caps. Ratings are even based on game footage and not actual play…
Via Kotaku.
Though it is unlikely anyone less than a diehard Ikkitousen fan would buy a censored game, it raises the question as to whether the game would have any success otherwise…
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Rofl
A mere 4% said yes
Says a lot
moar like exaggerated ahoge.
Say no to censorship.
Many top selling games are M rated and I know of no stores reluctant to sell them. Wal-Mart has gone back on it's policy and sell GTA now. The only restriction for M rated games is prohibited sale to minors, which is only store policy.
Is the article not confusing M with AO (adults only)? Stores won't sell AO games, of which none have been made.
And DOX2 was rated M, and showed way more skin than this game.
Wait, this is an M rated game or an AO rated game? There are tons of M rated games out there. All the Resident Evil and Grand Theft Auto Games are rated M and places like Wal-Mart, Target, Gamestop and Best Buy sell these games. I'm pretty sure the ESRB just doesn't want a repeat of the Hot Coffee incident.
And if you want proof that Americans get all pissy about sex and nudity and don't mind violence too much, watch the South Park episode "Good Times With Weapons".
It was rated M but the holding company seems to be throwing a fuss about it. They wanted a Teen Rating but since it got an M they want to scrap overseas distribution rather than have a toned down Teen Rated version.
Well, that's stupid. So what if its an M-rated game? I've been playing M-rated games since I was 13! Valcon is just being stupid.
LOL the result is radical!
I've got a solution for you: Hand the license and publishing rights over to Atlus.
# Yes (3.0%)
# No (97.0%)
This is damn HERESY!!!!!!!!!
Those censorship bastards should shove a boot up their asses!!!
You know, Dead or Alive somehow managed to get a T rating... though I've not seen any of this game's content, the description certainly suggests nothing racier than was in there.
Of course the bosom-juggling in that one was so extreme as to be comical rather than erotic, really.
If they are intelligent enough they will put an "english language" option in the menu and make a few more copies for importers, that way even english speaking users will fully enjoy the game.
This is because America is more sexphobic than it is afraid of violence and such. Everyone sees nudity at some point, especially since we have to be naked to do things like shower. It's an all natural part of life. Ripping someone's arm off and beating them over the head with it is not so nice but we'd rather see that than a nipple. I hate our backwards morals. Maybe if we loosened up a bit we'd be happier.
Though I could always go for some exaggerated breast jiggling myself.
If all guys could see boobs and pussy somehow when they showered I'm sure there wouldn't be as much of a problem, lol.
yah itz a fighting game. don't need to know japanese to enjoy it.
whats the big deal? the game probably wouldnt be good anyway being based on a cartoon and all...then again there are exceptions somewhere...
Obviously people would buy it if instead of the tits and skirts and shredded clothes you put in explosions, gibbing and set it as an fps
FUCK THEM!!! THEN LESSEN THE BOUNCING BREAST ON THE JAILBAITS ON DOA GAMES!!! FUCK FUCK FUCK~~~!!!! THAT FUCKING FUCK CALLED FUCKING CENSORSHIP~~~~FUCK!!!! AND WHO EVER VOTED ON THE I WILL BUY CENSORED IKKITOUSEN~~~FUCK YOU GUYS~!!! JUST FUCK!!!
They could release 2 version of the game one being mature and other being censored.
Final option get the imported one.
Yes (4.0%)
No (96.0%)
OWNED!
When is the ESRB gonna learn that the majority of boys learn to fap in their early of before they even reach their TEENS? Teens need to fap. If only they didn't have to feel so wrong about it.
lol let it be rated "M". its not like ratings matter anyways
96% no
owned!!
As much as I'm not into boobs, this is just wrong.
How funny. In the Sega Saturn game, Fighting Vipers there were several Female characters who you could strip down to nearly nothing by destryoying their armor, and how about Soul Calibur? The Breasts in that game Jiggle nearly as much as they do in Dead or Alive.
Sounds like the publishers just got lazy to me.
I didn't even know about this game before this. :P I hope they end up releasing it uncensored with an M rating at least.
But it won't make a lot of money, especially since you can pretty much bet it won't show up at Wal-Mart.
Moralfags must die!
if you get the game censored is possible that you can hack it and the history of Manhunt 2 will be repeated :3
"All the female characters are dressed in short skirts or skirts with a high slit. The game features frequent depictions of panties, cleavage, and exaggerated breast jiggle. A special attack move allows some characters to rip opponents’ clothes to shreds - exposing even more of the female anatomy (legs, breasts, partial buttocks)."
WTF? The reasons why they gave it an M basically EXACTLY describes other games already on the american market that have a T rating, like SOUL CALIBUR 4. If they can be released with a T then why can't Ikkitousen? That's just majorly FUCKED UP.
I say they just release it uncensored but with the M rating. Dead or Alive 4 had it and it sold well. I would have liked that option in the poll.
What did this game get rated in Japan?
who are the 3% ????
I think it's interesting how they are reluctant to release an M rated game, and yet 96% of the poll says they'll only buy the uncensored version.. bad marketing judgement? I'd say there's more than enough "Mature" guys to buy this game, should they ever release it as it is.
I've heard of this kind of thing happening with AO ratings, but this is the first time I've heard of M rated games having a hard time getting on shelves...
AOs aren't going to be on display in major markets that don't specifically deal in sex-related things anyway, so they already know what's what about that. Ikkitousen, however, is far more known for its echiness than insane fights; you can bet most people that pick up the title aren't looking for an engaging storyline or the actual gameplay.
It's just a really expensive excuse to see big-titted girls get naked. I bet there's not one selectable non-boss guy in the whole game.
An M rating wouldn't have done anything to the title. Every game store sells M rated games. This more on the lines of the company not wanting to release it as such.
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-
-UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!
this is like Rapelay all over again!!!
"All the female characters are dressed in short skirts or skirts with a high slit. The game features frequent depictions of panties, cleavage, and exaggerated breast jiggle. A special attack move allows some characters to rip opponents’ clothes to shreds - exposing even more of the female anatomy (legs, breasts, partial buttocks)."
Soul Calibur 4's Ivy Valentine would like to have a word with you...
The game looked horrible anyway, I doubt it would've sold.
I wasn't even expecting this game to come to the US, this would be the only game I would want play from this publisher if it's not censored, on their site every other game is just whatever.
http://www.valcongames.com/
Even if they're aiming for a T rating it still wouldn't sell well. And I'm sure the diehard Ikkitousen fan already has a import, or a burnt copy.
I;ve had the jap version for 2 years now not that much to censor
Censors in Ikkitousen? Fuck that, its better just to drop it :P
I say they made the right decision
Fuck him in the ass faggot
good.
Something isn't right when "jiggly breasts" are given the same rating as "severing an enemy's testicles by pulling a sickle between his legs" and "stabbing an enemy in the back with a crowbar, following it up by jamming it into the enemy's head, wiggling it in the skull, and finally prying the head off from the spine" (from the game Manhunt).
most obvious is the Grand Theft Auto argument i suppose. that franchise has always pushed the line with game ratings and im surprised they havent passed M yet. With that said,the franchise has never had real trouble generating profit off their famous products and i believe that either the japanese company that produces ikkitousen didnt want to fight harder for their game's release or couldnt afford to. Probably being sold on a near obsolete model console(ps2 is somewhat phased out at this time lol) didnt help either. It really shouldnt and probably couldnt of been the pure violence vs sexual conflict,but more so a well thought out pro con decision.
Well I think it's a bit pointless to censor a game which has been promoted almost completely on the breasts that move, the clothes that are torn apart and panchira...
I mean you don't watch Ikkitousen or Queen's blade only for its story or you'd be lying, you watch it also because you can see all of this so why the fuck would you want to censor it if it's done specically for all this?
But I guess it was more or less predictable ... Unnecessary but predictable ... -_-'
ok to be hounest i think this is a load of horce S#$%
mostly cas um wev already had all of that in previous games sutch as rumble roses, teken, soul caliber and pretty much every fighting game to have ever come from japan i meen in gulty gear they show an up skirt vew of Bridget with no underwear on don't really see the difference here
So how did Soul Calibur 4 get a T rating again?
Because much like Famitsu and Cero ratings for game quality and age ratings it all depends on who and how much you pay.
Whoops, that was suppose to be a new comment.
You're sure you weren't looking at an edited sprite gif of Bridget?
"in gulty gear they show an up skirt vew of Bridget with no underwear on"
When does this happen? It's not in XX normal. I've only seen a sprite edit like that. Is it an accent core thing?
Lol man why do you like that? Bridget is a man ya know xD
Everyone is gay for Bridget.
I am reminded of the dreaded death sentence that is the "NC-17" rating for movies. God forbid (and He apparently does, according to these ratings boards) adults should have easy access to certain kinds of entertainment not suitable for children, the elderly, or the willfully ignorant. I make it a point not to support censorship, monetarily or otherwise.
I have to agree with you. Frankly, I am fine with the NC-17 rating..... if it was required that movie theaters HAVE to show those movies as well as lesser rated movies.
Personally, I don't believe in 'god', and I think that the idiots should keep their religious beliefs out of the public arena and laws.
That's so awesome....
Europe = Violence? NUUU CENSOR this shit!
US = pft...Violence, so? But GTFO with your boobs!
That means so much.
FUCK YOU LOSER FROM MAL. I WILL KILL YOU FUCKING SHIT!
This pretty much sums everything.
LOL.
FUCK THIS PIECE OF SHIT!
CENSORS ARE GOING TOO FAR!
hmm i learned something from sancom today, esrb is corrupt. teh lol. btw #1!
too bad the game isnt for ps3...HD shirtless cartwheel kicks... oh the satisfaction
EDIT: FUCK YOU ANON ABOVE ME
hahaha, that made my day
Heh, the game will some how arrive at the hands of people who want to play it regardless.
Yep, can't wait.
lol after i finish voting for NO, LOLz! to the result 4% yes lmao... xD
UNCENSORED English version FTW!!!!
Well...anybody who wouldn't buy it, censored or not, will also go into 'no' so it's hardly a surprise that it would be in the lead
Wait, I'm entirely confused about something...
They want to Avoid the M rating for an obviously oversexualised game. Because they fear it Won't Sell..
I don't know about you, but if the Oversexual Content is the main selling point, won't rating it M work just fine?
And what's this? Retailers afraid of dealing with M rated games?
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The sheer level of stupidity in localisation groups sometimes makes me want to cry, and the annoying existance of the ESRB makes me want to slap some proper thought and knowledge into each of it's members.
'exaggerated breast jiggle. A special attack move allows some characters to rip opponents’ clothes to shreds - exposing even more of the female anatomy '
exaggerated breast jiggle win!
lol it sounds funny...
interesting game, regardless
Jiggle...that's why I love the Dead or Alive series.
since the only ones the would be buying this are the fans, I don't see why a M rating matters too much...
plus it's a PS2 game, how well are those even selling nowadays in the US?
Better than the ps3 actually.
http://www.digitalbattle.com/2009/05/19/ps2-outsells-ps3-in-april/
wow ok so i can see the ripping off clothes but man the first DOA was bad with the jeggl-mantion you could go into the options and turn it up were thay bounce all over the place. games now are even worse like ring rose or something like that were you were girls wrestler and man the costumes were off the wall.
aah, the good times wih doa on playstation. too bad they didn't proceed in the same direction with the next ones, leaving less than a third of the costumes they made for the first one, sometimes allowing you to select more costumes which were in fact the same as previous ones, but with different colours. I whined a lot. But hey, now that we're talking about doa, what about extreme beach volley ? shitapai, yokochichi and everything else, nearly non-existent costumes, and if i recall correctly, that wasn't a mature game..
i thought DOA was M... im pretty sure it was
You guys are forgetting Soul Calibur 4, which is basically the same as Ikkitousen but in full 3D. It was rated T
Arcade was unrated (obviously). Home Versions:
ELSPA: 11+
ESRB: T
USK: 16+
Seems strange that after paying for the rights for the game and, I assume, doing some localizing already, they would rather cancel the game entirely, rather than release the M-Rated game in low numbers, to recoup some of their costs and please some of the die hard fans.
But then again, what do I know about the actual costs of doing such things?
I'm not a huge Ikkitousen fan, so I'm not too bothered by the loss, but it is a sad to think that violence in general is all right, but as soon as you throw in a little exaggerated T and A, well then, now you've gone too far.
Actually following through involves production and distribution costs which may drive them even farther into the red
I hate it when organizations don't know anything about the products they're handling. Exaggerated breast jiggle? This warrants censorship? We have dozens of violent games on all consoles(I play them), and A lack of sports bras gets a game an "M" rating? As I've noticed before, America and the UK are a bunch of 5 year olds who love the guns and but think boobs are icky.
What the hell is up with the 'm' rating anyway? Over in the UK, there are plenty of 18-rated games that sell perfectly well.
Unfortunately, I have to agree totally with Redsight88...... the fact is that America and the UK are still in the "Victorian times" where a little boobage is worse than dismembering a person limb-from-limb.... not that I have any problem with that as long as it is solely in the context of a game.
most people see americans fearful of sex and nudity, but to me I think they're just being hypocritical. This is a country where little girls grow up to watching concerts for "artists" like the pussycat dolls, britany spears, and madonna, who have all dances around on stage in lingerie and sung songs about sex. It's just the powers that be are often blind to all the sex that already exists in the country, or they're fearful of activists and soccer moms who's complain about their products and give their company a bad name.
The people are at odds with each other. Half the country promotes/accepts sex, the other half is highly conservative and ignorant towards or totally against the other half.
Americans fags == more gayish?
You have to remember this is the same company that gave Dead Or Alive extreme 2 a M rating.
But they didn't ban it... what the hell is going on?
The article needs to be reworded. They didn't ban the game. They gave it an M-rating which made the holding company want to cancel distribution overseas than sell it at a restricted scale.
Whatever, I'll just get Japanese version
I'm curious, because it might just be where I live (southern New England), but where are stores reluctant to stock M-rated games? Even Walmart stocks them around here. And it's not like an M-rated game can't sell well, unless the target audience is kids. I'm not saying the rating isn't stupid and hypocritical, but on its own, it shouldn't have been enough to cancel a game adaptation of a show that's basically about tits. The fact that it IS a game adaptation of a show about tits (and, as the above poster commented, being released on old hardware) probably had more to do with the decision.
It's that this game was made for the 13+ crowd, and in the USA and UK, some cities have made it illegal to sell M rated games to people that age unless they are with their parents, so it's basically a 'death knell' for any game that was supposed to be made to get a T rating that the overbearing censors in the US give an M rating.
Come down here to the fucking bible belt and you'll see what they're talking about, anon.....
Fuck Jesus
Censoring Ikkitousen leaves you with nothing at all, no?
Guess so, unless someone was expecting something like "plot" in it...
So, yes, with nothing at all.
PLOT????
IN MY IKKITOUSEN???
UNPOSSIBLE!!!!
Which idiot voted yes?
That's ESRB for you. They are only interested to see Gill's dangling balls instead of girls' panties and boobs.
if the characters were guys i doubt they'll be making any comments..