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    So, did someone set fire to Unicef Japan yet?

    • Bad idea, you haven’t heard? They’ve recently spent a large portion of their funding fire-proofing all their buildings.

    • I don’t know why Artefact tries to present UNICEF and UNICEF Japan as separate organizations at all when the former receives fees from the latter and in return supports the latter (and Anger Cunt) on its website. UNICEF is simply UNISHIT.

      Pretty much any organization that is or pretends to be pro-children is also pro-censorship (even though fictional child pornography appears to reduce child molestation and rape, just as violent video games appear to reduce violent crime) and thus actually anti-children as well, making them ambivalent and therefore at best poor choices to send money to.

      The bottom line is that true humanitarians should send their money to perpetually beneficial, high ”return” causes like digging water wells for African villages that lack them (and thus have many of their people (often women) walk hours in the heat for water frequently). ”Children” are absurdly politicized and thus are not the best cause for serious humanitarians to send money to. :\

      • Well, Unicef Japan is not the regular branch of Unicef in Japan, but an independant organisation. In contact with Unicef, but still independant. Yup, Unicef in itself is a heap of shit.

        Children are highly politicized because the Nazis showed the world how effective this method is if you want to control and lead dumb masses. The world turns more and more fashist. Even Russia and China are not really communist but camouflaged fashist regimes.

        • I explained how UNICEF is 100% linked to UNICEF Japan. Just because UNICEF doesn’t care that UNICEF Japan ”runs wild” doesn’t mean that UNICEF Japan shouldn’t be considered to be part of UNICEF.

          I’m sure the Nazis weren’t the first. ;p Anyway, the world is turning into more and more of a place where commoners are just serfs or slaves with more things they can’t do than things they can do, yes.

          More ideally there would be a wealth tax that increased towards 100% (but never reaching it, of course, and being wealthier before being taxed would still provide greater, but diminishing, returns) the wealthier a person was, and to pass and keep laws a 98% majority from direct (representatives hardly represent commoners at all) votes (from people of all ages, regardless of anything but the lack of the ability to read, and everyone must vote, although votes from minors that matched their guardian’s votes should be discarded as quite likely coerced/brainwashed/inculcated/fanboyed, i.e. just the guardians getting to vote multiple times) would be needed, with annual revotes (that never stop recurring), at least.

          Of course bigots that would define people with different lifestyles or characteristics as not being humans (and thus okay to harm or murder) would have to be defined as not being humans themselves right back, which of course would lead to them losing the right to vote or exist right back. In those cases a simultaneously applying set of votes should be held; one against the ”abnormals”, and one against those against the ”abnormals”, with no more iterations allowed. In the case that both votes were to pass then only the second iteration would actually pass.

          • Linked, but still independant. Unicef has an official japanese office – and that is not Unicef Japan.

            I’d like 66.6% income tax for everyone with a generous amount of exemption. No vat. People would buy more which is god for the system.

            Your vote system would never work. With 98% majority needed nothing would ever get done. I’m all for giving the people more power with popular petitions, though.

            • Why does it matter that UNICEF has a token office in Japan when they gain from and give help back to UNICEF Japan?

              Taxation is theft, though. Instead letting people pay for specific things that they wanted (like fire/police/hospitals/military/education/insanity) would be fairer. Anything that dies wasn’t really wanted, anyway. The wealth tax would just increase the equality of representation, but if everything was direct then it wouldn’t be needed.

              Not much would be done federally, but smaller areas would have more laws, which means more freedom regarding how to live in the country! Even if murder wasn’t federally illegal people would move to places that made it illegal, and soon most places wouldn’t allow murder. The idea that the government ought to do (and thus control) lots of things has aided and perpetuated a lot of crap in this world.

              • It shows that Unicef Japan is not an official branch of Unicef, nothing more.

                Taxation is needed to keep a stable society. Take the USA, there are huge social problems leading to crime. No security – workers can be abused like in feudal times.

                That system would rip apart the country. Different rules in every town that nobody from the outside even has a chance to know? Travellers will be trialed for something only illegal in the place they happened to visit? The people from the outside who think this is unjust won’t have any of that. There would be war soon. Smallscale, but still war.

                • It’s official; come on. UNICEF bears full responsibility for UNICEF Japan. I don’t know why you don’t think so.

                  If people want stability then they’ll pay for it without being forced to under the threat of violence. A lot of huge social problems are CAUSED by the government, too, so I don’t see why thievery to support it (when it’s also very corrupt as well) is so great. As for workers, if they want safer jobs they should productively unionize and/or accept lower wages…

                  How would people not have a chance to know the laws in different areas? Most places would put it on the sign that indicated the start of their area (because people would not want to casually visit them otherwise). Besides, NO ONE can know all the laws (which can be applied to you whenever you’re considered a bad apple by some trash beings with power over you) that exist now. At least there wouldn’t be so many (especially evil and/or stupid) laws to know in that theoretical society. Also, local and regional laws already apply, except that there are again too many of them to know right now.

                  And what of travelers now? It’s already absurd, with more and much worse laws randomly applying federally or in smaller areas. Do you like people’s lives being ruined for make believe crimes?

                  And if the nation split (since war is stupid) then so what? People would have more CHOICES on how to live. Besides, there’d only be a split if at least one area left the country. Otherwise there being anything like a war makes no sense. If people are in a normal, drug-use-allowing area, then maybe they should investigate and think before they visit Purityville and then do lots of drugs there. Is this really different than visiting any state of locality with its own extra and also its own tweaked laws from what’s normal in the country? Not really, except that it’s easier to find out about new laws when there are few, especially when bullshit ones (that are about 99.5% of what exist now) rarely exist. Just don’t visit shitty places! At least everywhere in the country wouldn’t be shit, unlike now.

                  • Because Unicef has an official branch in Japan that is not Unicef Japan. ^_^

                    People won’t pay enough money unless they have to. That is a proven fact.

                    A good social system helps reduce crime. Of course you have to check for fraud, especially immigrants like to abuse such systems.

                    Unions won’t help if the companies get cheap workers from neighboring countries. The government has to regulate that. Every way to maximize profits will be used.

                    Most places? So some won’t? ^_^
                    And those that do only can place the most important laws on signs. Law books tend to be huge monsters.

                    About the stupid and evil laws, your system will lead to exactly that. Small groups of weird people could easily get a majority in a village or small town and install the most fucked up laws imaginable.

                    Punishment for thought crime is one of the most fucked up problems of modern society.

                    Countries splitting would sooner or later lead to anarchy, the perfect base for war. All in all, it may sound good in theory, but would never work in practice. I think mankind is way too dumb to regulate itself on such a base level.

                    • So if someone has two children only one is allowed to be part of the family? Please think seriously about the reality of the relationship here. UNICEF gets fees from UNICEF Japan AND supports it (and Agnes Chan) on its OFFICIAL website. There’s no way for them to just say that they aren’t responsible. They are promoting them and allowing them to have the name UNICEF…for money!

                      If people want something they’ll pay. ;p

                      Governments perpetuate bigotry, so I can’t see why they ought to control society at gunpoint.

                      Immigrants could join unions, too. ;p Besides, if no one wants a job at market rates then what’s the problem?

                      Uh, so what if some laws didn’t apply everywhere? If a group of people don’t want them then there’s no reason to force them to obey at gunpoint. Law books are huge monsters because shit laws are allowed to be passed, so your comparison is a straw man argument.

                      Stupid and evil laws should exist…in areas that overwhelmingly want them. Pretty much everywhere would have many fewer laws, and yet would have the laws that people really wanted.

                      If you dislike the idea of thought crime then why do you want a controlling, oppressive government?

                      Splitting is hardly cost free. If a town split off then its economy would be harmed, and I don’t know why a town would wage war against a much larger nation.

                      I said ideally. Some places would much better live and let live right now, so it’s hardly impossible. Culture should change, and the government holds that back with its oppression and enforced bigotry.

                      • Unicef Japan pays for using the name? I didn’t know Unicef is a franchise. ^_^

                        Workers in a land without social security NEED the money, no matter how bad the wages are. That’s the problem.

                        I don’t like a controlling oppressive government. I hate that system. Alas, laws are needed because anarchy would destroy everything sooner or later.

                        I’m all for letting the people decide important things themselves via referendum/petitions, but dislike small areas making their own rules.

                        A federate system always causes trouble. I see that in Germany, and there are only 16 federal states. It may sound good in theory, but that’s it.

                        • No ^_^. Just v_v. Reality sucks.

                          If the wages aren’t enough to live on then immigrants couldn’t live on them, either. If they want more money then they should move to a place with a minimum wage for all, including immigrants.

                          Which laws are needed (although this is subjective) that wouldn’t pass in any part of a country under my theoretical system?

                          I ”dislike” large areas fucking the hell out of me. If I move I’ll just die, anyway. Do you see the problem?

                          Always can hardly apply when you have no example of anywhere that did what I said to offer me, so you’re making a straw man argument.

                          • Laaate answer. Damn. I need 50 hour days…

                            It’s more about foreigners only coming to work than immigrants. Life is expensive here, not so expensive in most east european countries.

                            Basic laws, don’t steal and stuff. I’m sure there would be thief villages and rapist villages in your theoretical system.

                            Why would you die when you move?

                            Maybe. Still the federal system is the source of many many problems in Germany.

                            • Yeah, me too.

                              What’s the problem with foreigners if they pay their taxes? If life is too expensive then why not raise the minimum wage?

                              What’s the problem with those villages if the people there like doing those things? Others would leave and businesses wouldn’t operate there, anyway. Basically, they’d be ruled by gangs (except they’d have many fewer illegal activities to profit from, and they’d be isolated, so their business would be very slow), but if that’s what they want, so what? The masochistic and gayngbangers would love it, right?

                              I’d have no way to get money to live on if I left the United States.

                              Germany is hardly using my system. Of course it’s bad in Germany when multiple levels of trash beings decide things for you. It’s a bit different if you influence decisions directly, there are few laws to remember, and you can move without entirely displacing yourself from the country and leaving a lot of people that you know behind, not to mention possible changes in language and especially culture.


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