No matter how less-offensive a pedophile is compared to a molester, pedophilia is undoubtedly wrong on many levels. When I see a 60-year-old man post my pictures all over his blog and tell the world how much he is infatuated with me, I'm not gonna pretend like it's nothing just because he didn't molest me too. :/
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Posted 6 years ago #
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EndohMimi said:
No matter how less-offensive a pedophile is compared to a molester, pedophilia is undoubtedly wrong on many levels. When I see a 60-year-old man post my pictures all over his blog and tell the world how much he is infatuated with me, I'm not gonna pretend like it's nothing just because he didn't molest me too. :/His case is understandable. If those are in fact photos of you on your site, it seems quite reasonable that people of any age and interest would find you beautiful and charming.
If you don't want him redistributing the same photos, you shouldn't use them yourself. If he got them by less than savory means, then he is encroaching on your privacy.
It appears your personal images makes up a part of your site and you may not want to let that go, but you'll have to deal with the fact that you're awfully cute anyhow.
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EndohMimi said:
No matter how less-offensive a pedophile is compared to a molester, pedophilia is undoubtedly wrong on many levels. When I see a 60-year-old man post my pictures all over his blog and tell the world how much he is infatuated with me, I'm not gonna pretend like it's nothing just because he didn't molest me too. :/What about a pedophile that doesn't act on his raging hormones. I'm sure there are a lot of pedophiles that keep it to themselves.
Posted 6 years ago # -
EndohMimi said:
No matter how less-offensive a pedophile is compared to a molester, pedophilia is undoubtedly wrong on many levels. When I see a 60-year-old man post my pictures all over his blog and tell the world how much he is infatuated with me, I'm not gonna pretend like it's nothing just because he didn't molest me too. :/uhhuh, unless he is standing outside of your window snapping picks and getting them like that, if you post pics of yourself on the net, they are for everyone so dunno why you'd get upset if you are publicizing yourself for attention anyways.
Besides what 80 year old knows how to work the net ^_^
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Kip said:
His case is understandable. If those are in fact photos of you on your site, it seems quite reasonable that people of any age and interest would find you beautiful and charming.
If you don't want him redistributing the same photos, you shouldn't use them yourself. If he got them by less than savory means, then he is encroaching on your privacy.
It appears your personal images makes up a part of your site and you may not want to let that go, but you'll have to deal with the fact that you're awfully cute anyhow.
Exactly. Some pedophiles, especially those attracted to 2D girls, are fine imo. But those who harm others in the process (intentionally or not) are the ones who make the concept of pedophilia wrong.
I understand that it's my choice to post personal photos, but I have been a lot more careful regarding which photos to use after a certain person hijacked a less-appropriate pic to his site. >.>
Anyway, thanks for the compliment. :3
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EndohMimi said:
Exactly. Some pedophiles, especially those attracted to 2D girls, are fine imo. But those who harm others in the process (intentionally or not) are the ones who make the concept of pedophilia wrong.
I understand that it's my choice to post personal photos, but I have been a lot more careful regarding which photos to use after a certain person hijacked a less-appropriate pic to his site. >.>
Anyway, thanks for the compliment. :3
^_^
No the pleasure is mine, welcome!One other thing though, though you indicate you are young, and your blog is even called the angry loli, you must be 15-17 or so (heck, you could even be 25 and I can't tell the difference I'm so bad at guessing ages), it would appear.
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Kip said:
If those are in fact photos of you on your site
The internetz is never what it seems.
Kip said:
It appears your personal images makes up a part of your site and you may not want to let that go, but you'll have to deal with the fact that you're awfully cute anyhow.Anyways, this older thread is one to ponder in this topic.
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Kip said:
^_^
No the pleasure is mine, welcome!One other thing though, though you indicate you are young, and your blog is even called the angry loli, you must be 15-17 or so (heck, you could even be 25 and I can't tell the difference I'm so bad at guessing ages), it would appear.
Hehe, I wouldn't be here if I was too young. xD I guess my increase in comments and posts was due to the fact that I'll no longer be a loli age-wise in a couple weeks or so.
x3
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Yakimaki said:
Dont care what anyone says, pedophilia isnt a choice, its just who the person is. its like saying my attraction for asians and blacks is a disease when its just what it is, a preference. Now saying that because a person is a pedophile, he will rape a child is just plain stupidity because one could use the same thought process that because I am a heterosexual, I am going to rape every woman I see. I will also admit I could be considered a pedophile myself, but at family outings and friend hang outs, who is the best choice to watch the kids? Me, and why? Because I actually care what the kid if feeling and try to make sure they are all having fun. Not all pedophiles want to fuck.How is it not a choice? If you like small stature go date a midget. If you like someone with a high pitch voice then go do that. If like you said pedophilia is not a choice, then what do you propose we should do about this noble cross that you need to bear? I guess in a sense you guys have it worse than homosexuals, at least they don't get arrested if they act upon it.
Kip said:
Is your heterosexuality itself a choice/preference/encoded in DNA?
Kip, sir, you are a sensible one, I salute you.
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EndohMimi said:
Hehe, I wouldn't be here if I was too young. xD I guess my increase in comments and posts was due to the fact that I'll no longer be a loli age-wise in a couple weeks or so.
x3
Depends where you are. Legal age can be 13 or younger in some places, but that may or may not change ones physical loli attributes any.
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Kip said:
you must be 15-17 or so (heck, you could even be 25 and I can't tell the difference I'm so bad at guessing ages), it would appear.These.
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/02/04/22-year-old-loli-impersonator/
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=731
Kip's choice of words in this thread seems to be inspiring my spamming spirit :P
However, it also lead back to topic. There is a tendency in society for wanting women to look "young", but somehow liking girls too "young" (or appearing so), as in teenagers, not 9 year-olds, is a taboo?
Also, in this thread are we differentiating between pedophilia and hebephilia? These 2 are quite different in nature.
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Kip said:
Depends where you are. Legal age can be 13 or younger in some places, but that may or may not change ones physical loli attributes any.
Good point. I guess American society has ingrained the idea that kids 17 and under shouldn't go on SanCon into my head. >.>
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AMD said:
I guess in a sense you guys have it worse than homosexuals, at least they don't get arrested if they act upon it.Kip, sir, you are a sensible one, I salute you.
That also depends on where you life, forbidden by the law in plenty of countries still.
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Well- from a biological standpoint, women are gtg sexually as soon as they start menstruating, and can be married as soon as that happens in lots of pre-industrial societies. Now, from the perspective of a suitor, can someone clearly define what the visual cues are to distinguish a girl who is marryable vs. one who is one month too young, or one year too young?
There's no clear toggle between "old enough to be sexually attractive" vs. "not old enough", so in that respect, I really can't see how pedophiles can really be classified as being deviants.
The other thing is skinship is feels good regardless of the source. It's very emotionally gratifying to hold a baby in your arms, and it's very emotionally gratifying to hold an adult in your arms (regardless of whether or not this person is a sexual partner). I don't think it makes a lot sense for there to be a deadzone age where cuddling is not appealing.
That being said, people who do engage in innapropriate relationships with children usually are messed up mentally. Not because they are interested in young people, but they lack the moral judgement and empathy to behave appropriately. I personally know two people who have gotten into trouble related to this topic. One of them had some telltale signs of fetal alcohol syndrome, the other was in a really bad car accident as a child. The biggest thing I noticed in daily interaction with them was they had a lot of trouble identifying cause/effect correlation and evaluating potential consequences. As far as I'm concerned, those developmental problems are a hell of a lot scarier than any overt sexual interest in childen.
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the envoy said:
Kip's choice of words in this thread seems to be inspiring my spamming spirit :P
LOL, The Envoy, you card.
the envoy said:
Also, in this thread are we differentiating between pedophilia and hebephilia? These 2 are quite different in nature.
Yes, hebephilia deals with more matured individuals but with loli features.
I believe some lolicons here run between gathering images of those that appear older but resemble lolis in their innocent faces, DFC, or manners, and those that are undoubtedly characters meant to be portrayed as nothing less than a child.
For sake of brevity, it seems more keeping just to continue to refer to all such preferences as pedophilia, as even the degrees varying between sexual interest and moe appeal between individual members and individual images, elicits varied responses and differing, unclassifiable attraction either sexual or not.
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AMD said:
How is it not a choice? If you like small stature go date a midget. If you like someone with a high pitch voice then go do that. If like you said pedophilia is not a choice, then what do you propose we should do about this noble cross that you need to bear? I guess in a sense you guys have it worse than homosexuals, at least they don't get arrested if they act upon it.
Haha actually that is not true, I have heard more stories of public acts of homosexuals being arrested than public acts of heterosexuals. Feel sorry for those guys considering most pedophiles have more interests than just those below age.
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sifian said:
Well- from a biological standpoint, women are gtg sexually as soon as they start menstruating, and can be married as soon as that happens in lots of pre-industrial societies. Now, from the perspective of a suitor, can someone clearly define what the visual cues are to distinguish a girl who is marryable vs. one who is one month too young, or one year too young?There's no clear toggle between "old enough to be sexually attractive" vs. "not old enough", so in that respect, I really can't see how pedophiles can really be classified as being deviants.
The other thing is skinship is feels good regardless of the source. It's very emotionally gratifying to hold a baby in your arms, and it's very emotionally gratifying to hold an adult in your arms (regardless of whether or not this person is a sexual partner). I don't think it makes a lot sense for there to be a deadzone age where cuddling is not appealing.
Excellent!
Your post hits my last few points home.Posted 6 years ago # -
Yakimaki said:
I dont care what anyone says, pedophilia isnt a choice, its just who the person is.Exactly. It's society that says it's sick and wrong and if you have pedophilic thoughts that you should be burnt to death on a cross for crimes against.. <Enter random thing here>
Things like this always remind me of a thread I saw a while back, the person was more or less saying that if you went to a country where it's pro-woman, even things like lolicon would be illegal, when it's not even REAL! - Yet if you go to a place where it's pro-men, you'll see 40 year old guys married to 13 year old girls since they are old enough to have children, and it's totally fine. Sure, I'm all for being equal to woman and all, but why do feminists instantly think that all men are scum when it comes to anything child/porn realated?
Here, if a man said to a police man "I want to have children with a 13 year old" you'd probably be stalked by police and have your phone tapped, etc etc. But in a different country, someone wouldn't think anything of it.
Umm.. Sorry, I got a little sidetracked and went onto woman, but, it's still on topic. Since it's mostly woman these days that shape society. Look at the woman who tried to ban lolicon manga in the UK?
"It's a victimless crime where all children are the victims!"
Did she EVER go to school? She made herself sound like a total retard.
Anyway, yeah. I think it's societys view on things that makes the world what it is today. Becuase if SOCIETY thinks something is wrong, it OBVIOUSLY is.
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What about a pedophile that doesn't act on his raging hormones. I'm sure there are a lot of pedophiles that keep it to themselves
Exactly. But remember, they'd still be classed as sick fucks becuase of what SOCIETY thinks.
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EndohMimi said:
When I see a 60-year-old man post my pictures all over his blog and tell the world how much he is infatuated with me, I'm not gonna pretend like it's nothing just because he didn't molest me too. :/Simple. Don't post pictures of yourself on the Internet then? It's like running a red light then shouting at the person who crashed into you. Don't do it in the first place and nothing will happen?
Posted 6 years ago # -
xSASxZaros said:
Simple. Don't post pictures of yourself on the Internet then? It's like running a red light then shouting at the person who crashed into you. Don't do it in the first place and nothing will happen?
That's like telling every loli to cease to exist irl because they're inevitably going to attract pedophiles. :/
Posted 6 years ago # -
Yakimaki said:
Haha actually that is not true, I have heard more stories of public acts of homosexuals being arrested than public acts of heterosexuals. Feel sorry for those guys considering most pedophiles have more interests than just those below age.
What is it that you seek from children which you can't get from other women?
You do know aging is a simple fact of life right? I don't care how child-like you maybe now but 70 years you will be an old person.
What bothers me is that pedophilia pays no heed to other qualities that a person may have other than those that are pertinent to pedophiles. Do we not love a person for who he/she but not merely age/appearance?Posted 6 years ago #
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