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1. 

   TsubasaNoTenshi
   

   In a search for improvement of my knowledge of SEO, I would like to ask you, the users, to compile the tags you find most helpful and/or meet your taste. What tags do you think should be included on what items? What do you think their original purpose was? Can this system be revolutionized in something more user friendly, or has the current situation no room of improvement? Note that I do not have much knowledge on the matter, so if I blurb a paradox or a self explanatory question, nonsense or anything, please find room to forgive.

   The subject, although not completely relevant, will be interesting to discuss, probably.

   Posted 6 years ago # Quote
2. 

   Envoy Loves You
   

   Well, I think all the untagged topics should be tagged for starters.

   Posted 6 years ago # Quote
3. 

   Kip
   

   the envoy said:
   Well, I think all the untagged topics should be tagged for starters.

   Oh! Like this one.

   Do you mean tags like (/spoiler) or (font=16) though?

   Posted 6 years ago # Quote
4. 

   BuggyBY
   

   Do you mean tags on this forum, on the main SC site, or on the Channel? For what it's worth, I just tagged this thread as "meta", which seemed the best description to me, and is one of the forum tags I personally most enjoy, next to "translation".

   Posted 6 years ago # Quote
5. 

   Envoy Loves You
   

   I meant tags for a thread. Like cosplay or chris hansen. Some topic threads have no tags (admittedly one of mine as well :P)

   Posted 6 years ago # Quote
6. 

   DHYohko
   

   the envoy said:
   I meant tags for a thread. Like cosplay or chris hansen. Some topic threads have no tags (admittedly one of mine as well :P)

   i think it's mostly due to the fact that we forget to tag them more than we don't want to.

   Posted 6 years ago # Quote
7. 

   Kip
   

   Not to mention right now this thread falls under the Anime category of topics by default.

   Posted 6 years ago # Quote
8. 

   TsubasaNoTenshi
   

   Well, to simplify things, how about we take chan.sankakucomplex as an example, and later on move to the forums,etc.

   Tags like [loli] per say, but with this said, it automatically refers to your favorite tag, having in mind that only few, might I say none pictures on the channel are with messed up, not explicit tags.

   Its also interesting to note the existence of a tag: tagme. I guess it's for counting purposes.

   But if we take the search engine on the main site for an example, we can clearly see how well it was designed and does it job to a level sufficient enough, but such accomplishments are possible mainly because users aren't allowed to post there.

   I still have some things to clear out with Artefact before I can start speaking more thoroughly, please share your thoughts and pretences and preferences for the time being.

   Posted 6 years ago # Quote
9. 

   Artefact
   

   Tagging is an important way of semantically organising information for users, but unfortunately most users do not understand it, so systems reliant on user tagging can have big problems.

   The main site shows tagging done properly, in my opinion. I try to create as few tags as possible, which controls the growth of tags (there are still several thousand). The key insight is that each tag must contain multiple posts, otherwise it cannot by definition organise information (as there is only one post). So, if it seems that a tag will never gain more than one post, it should not be created, and instead we should use a tag "one level up".

   Example:
   http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/04/21/votes-for-foreigners-whips-up-storm-of-xenophobia/

   There is no point tagging this "Yukio Hatoyama", as we will probably never hear of him again. Politics is a very broad tag, so the DPJ and Gaikokujin tags help narrow it. "Video Gallery" is a tag being used as part of the site interface, so it is designed to categorise content by format rather than actual contents. Categories also serve this role.

   The Channel works quite well as it is mainly reliant on physical descriptions, like "blue_eyes". There has to be a strong consensus for a "subjective" tag to work well, for example "happy_sex" is one such tag which works well. "tagme" is an indication that not enough tags have been applied to the image. Add some tags and remove the tagme if you are feeling helpful.

   Tagging on the forum is not working well as most users forget to tag, and some fail to get the format right (tag1, tag2, tag3). Also, there is little awareness of the issues I raised in the second paragraph.

   If you want to see an absolute failure of a tagging system, see Pixiv. The majority of the tags there are orphans with only a single image in them.

   Posted 6 years ago # Quote
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    We need a doujin forum.

    Because a lot of doujin gets posted.
    Enough to warent it's own section, I feel.

    Maybe.

    Posted 6 years ago # Quote
11. 

    BuggyBY
    

    Artefact said:
    The main site shows tagging done properly, in my opinion. I try to create as few tags as possible, which controls the growth of tags (there are still several thousand). The key insight is that each tag must contain multiple posts, otherwise it cannot by definition organise information (as there is only one post). So, if it seems that a tag will never gain more than one post, it should not be created, and instead we should use a tag "one level up".

    Example:
    http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/04/21/votes-for-foreigners-whips-up-storm-of-xenophobia/

    There is no point tagging this "Yukio Hatoyama", as we will probably never hear of him again.

    A shame that we probably won't, in my opinion. I liked his suggestion. But then, I'm biased because my Bolivian father, who has been legally living in Germany for very nearly four decades, can pay all the taxes he wants and still does not get a say in what the local politicians spend them on. However, the fact that he has repeatedly refused offers to get naturalised as a German citizen, in much the same way as many Koreans in Japan refuse to fully "turn Japanese", is another issue ...

    Ahem. Sorry for going off on a tangent there. We now return you to the discussion on post tags already in progress ...

    Posted 6 years ago # Quote
12. 

    DHYohko
    

    Archer112 said:
    We need a doujin forum.

    Because a lot of doujin gets posted.
    Enough to warent it's own section, I feel.

    Maybe.

    at least a doujin tag? wich reminds me i feel like hard-translating a doujin again.....any sugestions?

    Posted 6 years ago # Quote
13. 

    BuggyBY
    

    DHYohko said:
    i feel like hard-translating a doujin again.....any sugestions?

    Depends on how your tastes run, really. Do you prefer gag manga, loli, porn with adult participants, romance, futa, tentacles, yuri, all of the above, none of the above, other ...?

    Posted 6 years ago # Quote
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    DHYohko said:

    at least a doujin tag? wich reminds me i feel like hard-translating a doujin again.....any sugestions?

    Hard translate that nekomimi loli pic from before.

    Posted 6 years ago # Quote
15. 

    DHYohko
    

    *on topic*
    perhaps you need to make having a tag in a new thread be mandatory before it can be created? at least this way we won't forget any more, and they can be edited later if nesesary

    BuggyBY said:

    Depends on how your tastes run, really. Do you prefer gag manga, loli, porn with adult participants, romance, futa, tentacles, yuri, all of the above, none of the above, other ...?

    I enjoy slice of life and soft heartwarmth the most such as this, both in terms of doujin and doujinshi. though i did hard-translate the beako doujin at archers request wich i am yet to upload to the channel......

    Archer112 said:

    Hard translate that nekomimi loli pic from before.

    consider it done, at least within the hour, after that i'll make the shinku seal of approval.....

    Posted 6 years ago # Quote
16. 

    BuggyBY
    

    DHYohko said:
    I enjoy slice of life and soft heartwarmth the most such as this, both in terms of doujin and doujinshi. though i did hard-translate the beako doujin at archers request wich i am yet to upload to the channel......

    Maybe search the internets for non-adult Mahoraba:Heartful Days doujin, then, or get to work on the original manga (though it's been done already, an alternative translation is always welcome)? That would seem to be right up your alley.

    Posted 6 years ago # Quote
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    BuggyBY said:

    Maybe search the internets for non-adult Mahoraba:Heartful Days doujin, then, or get to work on the original manga (though it's been done already, an alternative translation is always welcome)? That would seem to be right up your alley.

    apart from he doesn't know any Japanese.

    Posted 6 years ago # Quote
18. 

    BuggyBY
    

    Archer112 said:

    apart from he doesn't know any Japanese.

    Oh, so he's just planning to edit in the text from a soft translation? That's a different matter then, of course.

    Posted 6 years ago # Quote

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