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  1. A final draft of what hopefully is my first published article opposing censorship on a legal basis is up. Visit Yes to Freedom @ yestofreedom.org and contact them through IRC to look.

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  2. Nin, if you are still following this thread, I'd like to see your piece once its done.

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  3. FoolyDooly said:
    But wouldn't banning censorship be in theory the same thing?

    No. Not even close to the same thing.

    I would say the reason many people think that way (and the reason laws tend to have loopholes for that matter), is due to the ambiguity of language and how prone it is to misrepresentation when people focus too much on words. Think about the meaning behind them instead.

    Is (verbally) condemning someone for being intolerant "the same" as discriminating and/or bullying someone due to their race, skin color, or the shape of their nose? One might call that "being intolerant against intolerance", after all.

    Is using force in self-defense "the same" as brutally assaulting someone on a whim? Both can be classified as "an act of violence", after all.

    Is protecting the integrity of Freedom of Speech by refusing to let it be compromised "the same" as trying to dictate what people may or may not see, read, draw, write, or even think by attempting to pass a law to criminalize it? Both can, indeed, be called "banning something", after all.

    I say "No".

    No, they are not the same. If anything, they are polar opposites in all three cases. Just because similar words can be found (or twisted) to accommodate both, doesn't change the fact that the two are completely different concepts.

    And, realize, anyone who answers "Yes" binds themselves to perpetual inaction with a paradox of their own making. Condemns themselves to watching helplessly as the very ideals they aim to uphold are whittled away and ultimately destroyed by those who oppose them. The age old saying comes to mind:

    "The only thing required for evil to prevail... is for good men to do nothing."

    Once more: A line must be drawn if Freedom (of Speech, or otherwise) is to last. One must be willing to defend it. Or it will be taken from you, along with your pants and the shirt off your back, as you stand there wondering why simply adhering to your noble ideals and letting others do as they please didn't work out.

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  4. Well, now that you have made it clear that there is a difference between censorship and preventing censorship, do you have any arguments against censorship with some kind of legal basis Splat? I would like to hear from you, that being the purpose of this thread. By the way, if you can't find my article draft from the IRC, let me know and I can link it to you.

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  5. Splat said:

    No. Not even close to the same thing.

    I would say the reason many people think that way (and the reason laws tend to have loopholes for that matter), is due to the ambiguity of language and how prone it is to misrepresentation when people focus too much on words. Think about the meaning behind them instead.

    [...]

    That's my point. Different people interpret law differently. Do you make strict translation, or do you make loose? That's not up for you to decide, but those who interpret it. :/ that's the way law works.

    Look at most court system, especially the highest Judiciary branch. They have not one judge, but multiples. In USA, they have 9 Supreme Court Judges, known as Justice(s). And they seldom, though it happens, agree on a topic. Even if they agree, doesn't mean they all have exact or even similar opinion.

    I would honestly want people to think of it that way, but at the same time, this is going to face too many problems. If there's no censorship, who's going to block out your privacy information from leaking out? That's all part of censorship.

    I personally like my privacy, as much as I like Freedom of Speech.

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  6. Perhaps I should have made it clearer, that when I referred to censorship, I refer to censorship of art like in the given examples of what is going on in Japan.

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  7. Immigrant88 said:
    Perhaps I should have made it clearer, that when I referred to censorship, I refer to censorship of art like in the given examples of what is going on in Japan.

    I know.

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