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   Lucky Channel
   

   I tried to respond to someone's comment on why Lucky Star is so popular, but after submitting the comment, it just disappeared. So now I'm posting it here full on out.

   In my opinion Lucky Star is popular because of the following reasons:

   1. Lucky Star works under serious moe, and it's cast of cute girls attract both male and female genders. The moe alone can attract, but if that were all, Lucky Star wouldn't be as near as popular as it is.

   2. The series starts off with the girls in a classroom like setting that anime fans can relate to, since most of them have been to highschool themselves. The first few episodes consists of them talking about pointless things such as food, dentists, etc, but this creates a certain atmosphere in the series. These conversations are not so different from the conversations many people have with their friends on their free time. So after a few episodes of experiencing this from the point of view of a silent friend sitting with them, it creates a stronger feeling of friendship toward the characters, rather then simple characters you are watching on tv.

   3. In continuation with point 2 the bond of friendship is reinforced by Konata. She is the spirit of an otaku amongst "normal" friends. Everything she hears goes through a filter in her head. This makes it so that a simple conversation will be related naturally to something anime in her mind, and often causes her to make comments based of her though process. This usually works well in gags, but makes the anime fan feel a sense of "I totally do that too" on occasion.

   With this said both male and female anime fans feel a stronger connection to the characters in this anime/manga series because it works brilliantly in creating this psychological feel of friendship between the characters and the watchers/readers, and a feeling of being able to relate to Konata's otaku minded filter would make anime fans love the series many times more.

   The point of Lucky Star isn't to tell a awesome story of hero's slaying dragons, and it isn't even trying to make an adorable story either. It works from the beginning to create a relationship between the viewers and the fictional characters, and that is why I rate Lucky Star as my #1 anime. When I watched it I felt this was their goal, and looking at its popularity, I feel they accomplished it brilliantly. This combination of cuteness, the creation of friendship, and the feeling of relation is why I easily see many otakus falling in love with these characters, (as a man would fall in love with his or her friend). Many Slice of Life anime and games have tried this method as well, but I am personally partial to Lucky Stars method.

   4. Lucky Channel is just too funny for words.

   Those are my reasons, debate them how you wish.

   

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2. 

   SaruDa
   

   Great. Now I just need someone to explain to me why TTGL is so popular.

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3. 

   Muzaffar
   

   Lucky what!!!?

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4. 

   MasterInfamous
   

   Lucky Who!!!????

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5. 

   giascle
   

   SaruDa said:
   Great. Now I just need someone to explain to me why TTGL is so popular.

   It is the definition of manly. If you don't understand then you are not a man.

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6. 

   Lucky Channel
   

   SaruDa said:
   Great. Now I just need someone to explain to me why TTGL is so popular.

   Very Well I'll take a crack at it:

   1. As glascle said, It is the definition of manliness. (but why you ask?) You can find symbols of manliness all throughout the series, but lets look at the main weapons of choice, the drill. The drill itself is a phallic symbol (penis like) in the ultimate form. Many men are attracted to the phallic imagery subconsciously all the time (the sword or the gun for example). Even Samuri X (Kenshin) talkes about the man is a sword and the woman is his sheath (sexual imagery). The drill is a motorized mega piece of phallic imagery that can fill some impressive psychological theories.

   2. The character Kamina is a Hercules of the anime world. The story of Hercules stood the test of time for a reason and Kamina is a model of that. He is not the smartest being, but he is strong in spirit and body. Always pushing ahead and never surrendering (much like the Spartans in the movie 300). But this manly person isn't the main character. He is charismatic and all the people follow him and look up to him at first, but he is looking up to a kid that no one gives to much thought about. He knows from the beginning Simon's potential, and he knows that all the kid needs is the confidence to use his power to save them all.

   With times when Simon tells Kamina that he doesn't believe that he is strong enough to do something, and that he doesn't have the confidence in himself like Kamina has in him. Kamina responds because Simon has full confidence in Kamina, just not any in himself, saying "Then Don't believe in yourself. Believe in the me that believes in you!" Kamina knows that even though he is charismatic, the people needed Simon to lead in order to save them all, and he was ready for anything to make that happen.

   3. The series continues with many epic battles, and such with Simon's growth into a man. But what also draws people into the series is the epic over the top action and other crazy sequences. It's like fusing G-Gundum and FLCL. Scenes where Simon pilots and controls a giant robot to sit down and control an even bigger robot, are funny, epic, and give you the sense of "omg did they just do that". The over the top action and humor makes this manly series even more popular, and the series also doesn't skip out on the fanservice, with the big breasted Yoko and the mary sue Nia.

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7. 

   Nin
   

   LC, kudos to your argumentation. You seriously have the gift to just roll out a huge slew of good arguments (although I'm not sure I agree with your view on phallic symbols). I'm really impressed.

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8. 

   FoolyDooly
   

   I also do love yandere side of Akira-chan, more then rest of Lucky Star. I don't know. I think that's her moe.

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9. 

   Sukunai
   

   Moe wins as usual, we males are visually stimulated, and we have no defense against what we can't control.

   The talking aspect works on females. Females are all about talking and they can relate to the banter. It 'seems' like pointless banter perhaps to most males and that is understandable. Forget the banter then and focus on the moe like you were supposed to.

   I found the conversations amusing though (but I have the advantage of a strong feminine side).

   It's that 'I can relate' aspect that the series is working.

   As was mentioned Konata is a great linkage to all things otaku. It's like a guy can watch and secretly think, yeah, if I was a girl, I'd likely be her.

   The show is unique in that it actually focuses on dialogue more than most. I actually don't recall too much visual fan service. But there are plenty of verbal gags and situational humour that's more about 'did you get the joke?'

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    Ukonkivi
    

    Sukunai said:
    visually stimulated

    The visuo-spatial and verbal-linguistically difference in men and women is vastly overestimated.

    Also, cute things as an interest is a stereotypically girly, moe fandom is a gender deviant thing, not a general worldwide norm.

    I don't think that the norm should be there. And moe is indeed far more male targeted. But to say that cute appeals to boys because of blahblahblah junk science claiming women don't like pretty things as much as men and cute is a boy thing surely must take lots of cognitive dissonance to say. This "cute for boys too" thing is largely unique to Japan, sadly.

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11. 

    SaruDa
    

    Sukunai said:
    I found the conversations amusing though (but I have the advantage of a strong feminine side).

    I find it more likely that you're a normal guy like the rest of us.

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12. 

    a little girl
    

    compare it to haurhi suziyma pls

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13. 

    Ukonkivi
    

    Talking about eating cornets with a cutesy flare is a lot more entertaining and genuine than all the cliched, badly played fantasy out there that's a snoozefest.

    Like I love fantasy, but I'm sick of creators who think they shouldn't break the mold and make something else, and that making fantasy is enough to get them by. There's a lot of boring slice of life out there too, which happened due to the fact people figured out a slice of life comedy was fine too. Lucky Star is not one of them.

    Just because Lucky Star is popular does not mean it is bad. It is concentrated, sugary win rolled into a show.

    Lucky Channel said:
    definition of manliness

    When people say things like this about it I have a hard time admitting I like Gurren Lagann and want to instead say I hate it with every fiber of my being.

    If I meet someone in real life who goes on about Gurren Lagann being epic manly and not like all these other pussy whiny jew nigger subhuman blahblah cancer, I'm going to inject them with laxatives.

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14. 

    FoolyDooly
    

    a little girl said:
    compare it to haurhi suziyma pls

    why would you compare it to Haruhi? Haruhi is nowhere moe as rest of female crew. Even Kyonko, who's not even part of canon, is more moe then Haruhi.

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15. 

    SaruDa
    

    a little girl said:
    haurhi suziyma

    Sorry for ignoring the intentional irony, but that really does sound like a disease.

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16. 

    HyperKnuckles99
    

    I enjoyed Lucky Star because of the huge amount of things in there that I can completely relate to.

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17. 

    Nin
    

    And the brilliantly written dialogue and the well-excersiced humour appeal.

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18. 

    AVEN
    

    I don't like Lucky Star... well maybe only the opening

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19. 

    Sukunai
    

    Ukonkivi said:

    The visuo-spatial and verbal-linguistically difference in men and women is vastly overestimated.

    Also, cute things as an interest is a stereotypically girly, moe fandom is a gender deviant thing, not a general worldwide norm.

    I don't think that the norm should be there. And moe is indeed far more male targeted. But to say that cute appeals to boys because of blahblahblah junk science claiming women don't like pretty things as much as men and cute is a boy thing surely must take lots of cognitive dissonance to say. This "cute for boys too" thing is largely unique to Japan, sadly.

    I'm just guessing you don't look at porn much :)

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20. 

    motaku96
    

    I think a little girl wants to know why haruhi is so popular. Please lucky channel, enlighten us with your words of wisdom.

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