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   Schrobby
   

   A twelve year old girl forced into marriage in Yemen has died giving birth to a baby.

   As the Yemeni Child Sijadsch Organization announced on Sunday, Fawzia Abdullah died on Friday at the stillbirth of her child in a Saudi Arabian hospital from major bleeding, which did not stop.

   According to Sijadsch the destitute parents took the girl from school at the age of eleven years and forced her into marriage. She soon got pregnant.

   Yemen is one of the poorest countries in the world, forced marriages of underage girls are not uncommon. Last year saw eight years old Muhammad Ali Nodschud who got forced to marry a 20 years older man finally managing to get divorced after two years. Civil rights groups have been demanding a minimum age of 18 years for marriage for some time.

   Source: Süddeutsche Zeitung, one of the big newspapers in Germany
   http://www.sueddeutsche.de/panorama/30/487435/text/

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   Hellmen
   

   And life goes in less shittier countries outside of Yemen.

   

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   Fonzer
   

   Just read the news in the paper.
   Though 1 case doesn't mean it can connect to all.
   I hope they finnaly realize when they could allow themselfs to impregnate a girl,at such an age the risks are increased.
   Probably the age of 15 on can start when they could allow to impregnate a girl in a natural way,laws are on their own.
   Anyway i read that they wanted to make marriages allowed at the age of 17.
   And many disagree to this mentioned above since it's not islamic or religious(not totaly shure about islamic but it certainly was mentioned about religous)

   Now if only prostitution was allowed to help the women,poor people.I know it's againts their religion but it would be 1 solution.But probably wouldn't work there becouse of their views.

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   Hellmen
   

   Fonzer said:
   And many disagree to this mentioned above since it's not islamic or religious(not totaly shure about islamic but it certainly was mentioned about religous)

   It's just them crazy Arabs again. I'm an Islamofag living in an Islamic country*, but I cannot impregnate lolis. I must marry pig disgusting 18 year olds or get 10 years in jail plus 5 strokes of cane.

   *At least on the paper. Just pretend there are no gambling and alcohol right thur.

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   Alessa
   

   She didn't die because she was 12. She died because of crappy medical treatment.

   Also since she could be impregnated she wasn't loli and 12 is the typical age for adolescence to begin so again not loli.

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   Fonzer
   

   Alessa said:
   She didn't die because she was 12. She died because of crappy medical treatment.

   Oh yes how could i forget that.
   Certainly a big problem there.
   But like i said there were increased risks becouse how young she was,don't think that medicine can handle everything,but poor medical treatment also happens and is bad,can't help it with poor equipment.Who knows what all happened we only get 1 small part of the story instead of the whole thing what all happened,like when did she go to the hospital?

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   Busy
   

   @Fonzer: You can actually marry in japan, austria and many other parts of the world with 17 if your parents agree, nothing that doesn't already exist.

   @Alessa: You are just stupid, then nobody would ever be a loli since you can get already pregnant with being 5 years old, which was the youngest mother recorded and every year you hear about 7-8 year old childs as the youngest mother of the year.

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   Fonzer
   

   Ayu Jochuu said:
   @Fonzer: You can actually marry in japan, austria and many other parts of the world with 17 if your parents agree, nothing that doesn't already exist.

   in my country you can marry as a 16y old with the consent of both parents.18 normaly

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   Ribbons
   

   I think this draws away from the importance needing to be seen here; the girl was both too young to become a mother and the medical equipment too shoddy to maintain her life. No child should become a mother at that age, lest you wish for her to lose the rest of her childhood.

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    soup
    

    Ayu Jochuu said:
    @Alessa: You are just stupid, then nobody would ever be a loli since you can get already pregnant with being 5 years old, which was the youngest mother recorded and every year you hear about 7-8 year old childs as the youngest mother of the year.

    Alessa views women as life-stock though.. to him a girl becomes a woman when she can give birth.

    Fonzer said:
    Now if only prostitution was allowed to help the women,poor people.

    Prostitution would cause more problems than it would solve..

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    Alessa
    

    Ayu Jochuu said:
    @Alessa: You are just stupid, then nobody would ever be a loli since you can get already pregnant with being 5 years old, which was the youngest mother recorded and every year you hear about 7-8 year old childs as the youngest mother of the year.

    Freakshows are an exception but she wasn't one of them. She had a child around the common time adolescence begins for a girl. This was all very normal and natural. It is the perversity of our anti-sex pedophobic Judeo-Christian modern society which makes us think this is an abomination. Nature doesn't wait for some magical arbitrary age to begin one's reproductive life. It starts as soon as the individual has developed enough to pursue it like this girl. Unfortunately she didn't survive the pregnancy because of being in an underdeveloped country with poor medical care. This is a common story in such places but only this one gets attention because of the Western pedophobic mentality and anti-Islamic attitudes prevalent in the West.

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    Fonzer
    

    Alessa said:

    Freakshows are an exception but she wasn't one of them. She had a child around the common time adolescence begins for a girl. This was all very normal and natural. It is the perversity of our anti-sex pedophobic Judeo-Christian modern society which makes us think this is an abomination. Nature doesn't wait for some magical arbitrary age to begin one's reproductive life. It starts as soon as the individual has developed enough to pursue it like this girl. Unfortunately she didn't survive the pregnancy because of being in an underdeveloped country with poor medical care. This is a common story in such places but only this one gets attention because of the Western pedophobic mentality and anti-Islamic attitudes prevalent in the West.

    Yes i do see this as the news to effect people and ignore other problems and start BS about all stuff to change their laws into marrying 18y old girls.Pretty effective huh?
    But didn't want to mention this until your post.
    Still young girls have increased risks,still saffer to get em pregnant at 15.
    And it could happen that she would be 15y old or 18 and this would still happen,medicine can fail there and you can't save everyone,especialy if you notice it too late.Only it wouldn't get such attention and dramatization like we get here if she was 18.

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    soup
    

    More importantly the girl was married of to an older man against her will..

    

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    Fonzer
    

    MelancholyMomo said:
    More importantly the girl was married of to an older man against her will..

    

    That happens there to certain people.Poor people and their depression don't know any other solutions and are kinda forced and force her to marry.
    Truly it would be good if they effectivly did something against that.But if they can't do anything to help the poor this will kinda continue.
    Or at least finnaly do something to listen to the small girl who is getting married and listen to her wish.She could still have all that and parents can still manipulate their children to make her say she wants to marry that man.
    Technicly every young girl who is marrying would actualy need a psychiatrian to check her out before marrying.

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    Alessa
    

    MelancholyMomo said:
    More importantly the girl was married of to an older man against her will..

    

    Do we really know that? Certainly it was arranged but all marriages there are arranged. I like how Westerners always like to play up some "the poor girl got forced" angle when the male many times had no choice in the selection either. Besides the only point to marriage is successful procreation and with whom is a minor trivial detail. Marriages aren't meant to be happy and fulfilling. They are meant to be dismal and painful. That's even when you select your own mate. Picking your significant other doesn't make a world of difference as exemplified by the West.

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    Busy
    

    Good that people like Alessa don't will ever find a woman and die out. The way you think is really sick, you should visit some psychiatrist since there is a lot wrong in your brain. Mariiage is not about making childs, it still about sharing everything together. If it would be how you said, why the most people get babies without being married and the most married people don't get babies? What you say makes no sense.

    You say to almost everything it is bad, why do you don't kill yourself finally then? There is no reason for you too life, because you say everything is bad anyways so it includes yourself too and your birth.

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    Alessa
    

    Ayu Jochuu said:
    Good that people like Alessa don't will ever find a woman and die out.

    Philosophies don't get passed genetically. The words I post existed before me and will exist after me as long as there are people who are realistic.

    The way you think is really sick, you should visit some psychiatrist since there is a lot wrong in your brain.

    A perspective no matter how much you disagree with it doesn't make it a psychological disorder.

    Mariiage is not about making childs, it still about sharing everything together.
    

    Marriage has always been primarily about having children. This doesn't take away from the couple sharing their joint misery but rather adds to and enriches it.

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    soup
    

    Alessa said:
    Do we really know that?

    made me laugh..

    Alessa said:
    Certainly it was arranged but all marriages there are arranged. I like how Westerners always like to play up some "the poor girl got forced" angle when the male many times had no choice in the selection either. Besides the only point to marriage is successful procreation and with whom is a minor trivial detail. Marriages aren't meant to be happy and fulfilling. They are meant to be dismal and painful. That's even when you select your own mate. Picking your significant other doesn't make a world of difference as exemplified by the West.

    That is great and all..

    but it doesn't change the fact that the girl was bought/traded for a sum of money.. ~_~.. that is basically a lawful exchange of one human being to another.. the 12 year old girl was merely an commodity.. and I stress the point, it was against her will..

    I hope you aren't going to use atheistic arguments to defend the human slave trade.. ~_~..

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    Fonzer
    

    Ayu Jochuu said:
    Good that people like Alessa don't will ever find a woman and die out. The way you think is really sick, you should visit some psychiatrist since there is a lot wrong in your brain.

    Actualy he is kinda right.
    In the end procreation is actualy what matters.
    All other stuff are just a source of human intelegance being which keeps us part of humans,actualy we are disctracted from the main purpose but we still reproduced much,so it's kinda double bladed(kinda hard to explain).Ehh maybe we still lead a nature life,still male who are more sucsesfull reproduce.
    Remember the horde rule the king of the pack reproduces others don't or get it somehow secretly.Well todays society allows more males,but there will be still those who will not get any.
    Then there is the rule of overpopulation,food can run out becouse of overpopulation,not strong or smart enough die faster then the strong,smart ones.
    Just look at africans they don't have enough food yet they still reproduce too much.This mostly means death to the weak children.Could be almost a crime in my views.

    Marriages can be painfull and stuff but that is what you call lifes expiriences,but there are good marriages also.
    Like my grandmas and grandpas seem to have a happy good fullfiling life together.

    The girl could have been forced or not.I wasn't there to see it so i don't know.Peoples assumptions are kinda annoying anyway.Like i said they need to change their rules there.
    Anyway alessa still needs to realize a few things.

    Anyway i like being human with all that intelegance part stuff.(and don't annoy me about my spelling,i don't care)

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    Busy
    

    That what you post has nothing to do with philosophy in any way. Its all like "I hate myself, the world and everybody bleh bleh bleh and everything is SO bad". You are more worse then any drama queen on tv. Aristoteles turns over in his grave when you say you are a philosoph.

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