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Posted 3 years ago #
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tosiaki said:
I think you're just wasting time here, discussing your 'theories'.
Work on it IRL until you get the results you want. Go out more.Oh and you're forgetting other important factors: personal time, priorities and availability. Think about it.
Bai.
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I don't know if you're trolling or whatnot, but cultural changes happen over time, and under the influence of many (thousands, or even millions) of people. It is not something you can just change. I recommend you study some ethnology, psychology, group dynamics and macropolitics if you don't believe me.
And Geno is right, you talk too much but do too little. Make your own group, show your own passion, and then start talking about inspiring other people.
How old are you, by the way?
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Yes, dealing with personal time, priorities, availability. Those were the things I wanted to talk about more. I just thought that perhaps I could get some feedback on my way of doing things, (and also if there were others here who were also interested in this kind of thing as well).
A big problem is getting everyone together, and I guess this is easy enough at a college, where an anime club already exists. I don't know much about organizing groups, which is why this is difficult for me. In the first place, it is a matter of finding people who I think would be interested, and finding the kind of people who can meet with me on a regular basis. I guess this is why being at a university helps due to the proximity, but if people are students, they have to deal with classes and tests, making it especially difficult at the end of semesters when people take their final tests. I do sometimes wonder what people to do when they want to meet with people they would be able to meet with often. So I'd like to hear what others can say about that.
Homestruck: I was saying that it was not big enough, not that it was completely nonexistent; at least, one certainly doesn't exist that is on the same level as Japan.
maid: I understand that it is definitely a "big hope" to strive for a "big change," but I have sometimes heard that small things sometimes makes a big difference. I do worry a lot about if I do will really make a difference, since, after all, I am only one person. If there is a way to make such a difference, I would definitely like to know the way. But I do think that it should at least be possible some way. I am only somewhat knowledgeable about European history, so adding group dynamics and macropolitics would help, I guess, and maybe psychology when it comes to dealing with people in general. I am at the age of currently being in university (post-secondary education).
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tosiaki said:
My idea is that through starting local "clubs" devoted to this that meet frequently, then through making self-published works (whether they are derivative works or original; both are fine) that one hands out to other members of the group (i. e. "in-club doujin") it presents far less required effort and risk than going all the way to a convention. Furthermore, having groups that meet more often would be a much better way to create a community and culture than just conventions. That is what I am doing now: encouraging people at an anime club to try illustrating, meeting every so often, and to passing out copies to each other―and when enough people do it, perhaps a separate group dedicated to this could be started as well. Perhaps if there is something everyone likes at the club, then it could be presented at a convention, but the club would be the more fundamental means of creating a community.
Easier said than done: artists are notoriously bad at organizing themselves, cooperating, and most of all... meeting deadlines. They wouldn't be artists if they were actually good at doing all that.
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Hmm. The Homestuck Kickstarter project raised $2,485,506 in fan donations. I don't think that's 'not big enough' imo. I'm sure that number is vastly superior to anything even something like Touhou has made.
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Homestuck is bad
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You know who else was bad...?
That's right.
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Homestuck is bad.
Hitler is bad.
Therefore, Homestuck is Hitler.
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Homestruck: I would have to look more into that, then. However, I would, of course, argue that fan donations aren't really a good measure.
On a slightly different topic, I would say "big enough" is when society treats it with the same weight as organized religion, and when it does have the same weight as organized religion, for example, to compare with the Hippies of the 1960's in the U.S., who were also compared to religious movements as well, and which I have had a lot of interest in reading about. Perhaps that might seem to be too big of a comparison, but I do think it does have such potential―just without the same fate that the Hippies suffered in 1969.
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ahaha this is great
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All this talk of hippies makes me want to light one up.
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A hippie?
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giascle said:
A hippie?That too would be nice.
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Well, I am personally not so fond of hippies myself, but the way that they have made an impact in a way similar to organized religion does provide an "historical example," at least.
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My god. Hippies. Pure ideology.
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tosiaki said:
I would definitely like to know the way.How many times do you have to be told so you can get a clue? Here you go three times:
Stop talking, get your lazy ass up and start doing
Stop talking, get your lazy ass up and start doing
Stop talking, get your lazy ass up and start doing
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Also, organizing groups is indeed "Easier said than done." In order to do anything, I have to organize meetings with others every once in a while, and a bigger problem, of course, is getting people motivated. I have thought of various ways to get people motivated, but perhaps there is no magic formula for this, but I do hope there might be strategies to make it easier. So far, my method is simply to meet with every person I have handed out a copy of an illustration/comic to (so far, only 6 people) as often as possible, but when the time for meeting comes, I can only think of doing something like "I think it would be good if you could try drawing right now" and "I think it would be good if you could try doing this more on your free time," and sending people reminders about it every so often (interspersed between normal conversations, of course). Since I am not very knowledgeable about psychology, perhaps this may seem like a really awkward way to do this, which is what I am worried about.
Homestruck: That is why I think that a doujin culture could be more successful than hippies in being a permanent influence, because it is not an ideology (it has no creeds or set values), but people can be just as passionate about it as if it were an ideology.
maid: I am doing something, but in the end, when I am not meeting with people, the only other thing that I can think up of that would be productive is to do more drawing, and maybe try communicating with those people I know through the internet (email, skype, etc.) I just thought that perhaps people here might be of at least a little help when it comes to the details of creating such groups, meeting with people, dealing with people, etc.
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maid said:
How many times do you have to be told so you can get a clue? Here you go three times:
Stop talking, get your lazy ass up and start doing
Stop talking, get your lazy ass up and start doing
Stop talking, get your lazy ass up and start doing
Good advice for life in general.
Posted 3 years ago # -
Guise, I think OP just might have the assburgers.
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