giascle said:
See, they got caught.
Real talk, how did they manage that when things cost 3x more LEGALly
For each contraband item they catch at least 10 times as much gets through customs.
What they find is often just the tip of the iceberg.
As for the home made gun all you need is a lathe and a 3 axis mill.
Char said:
As for the home made gun all you need is a lathe and a 3 axis mill.
The M16/M4/AR rifle platform and the M1911 pistol platform have been public domain for decades. Anyone with a computer, the design files, and a CNC machine can make them all day long.
And how about this little gem from California's next governor.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/top-california-official-propose-gun-control-initiative-34487187
The ballot initiative would ask voters to make five changes to state law:— Eliminate the stockpile of now-banned large-capacity magazines with 11 rounds or more: Owners would be required to sell them to a licensed firearms dealer, take them out of state or turn them in to law enforcement to be destroyed. State law already bans manufacturing or selling magazines that hold more than 10 rounds.
Once again, trying to circumvent ex facto laws. Won't do anything except let them nail an otherwise law abiding citizen who kept possession of once legal mags.
— Background checks for ammunition purchases: Ammunition dealers would need to conduct a background check at the point-of-sale for all ammunition, and dealers would need a license similar to those required to sell firearms. Stores also would be required to report to law enforcement if ammunition has been lost or stolen.
They already tried this and the courts ruled against it. What makes them think this will stick a second time? Right, liberal logic.
— Reporting lost and stolen guns: California would join 11 other states in requiring that lost or stolen firearms be reported to law enforcement.
Why does this need to be a law? Wouldn't someone who has their gun stolen report it anyways?
— Felons must relinquish weapons: California courts would set up a clear process to relinquish weapons. The authors say that more than 17,000 Californians who are prohibited from owning firearms currently have guns.
This is already law and adding another isn't going to fix the inefficiency of the system. Not to mention the illegal taking of money from the DROS fund to pay for confiscating the firearms of felons they did.
— Firearms database: The California Department of Justice would have to notify the federal instant criminal background check system when someone is added to the database of those prohibited from purchasing or possessing a firearm. California currently reports to the federal system voluntarily.
Once again, if CADOJ does this voluntarily already, why does it need to be made law? Are they implying CADOJ is faltering on this and needs to be punished for not reporting this data? Like they would ever prosecute anyone over this.
A poll last month by the Public Policy Institute of California found that two-thirds of adults believe California's gun control laws should be stricter than they are now. It found that 57 percent of adults said controlling gun ownership is more important than protecting the right of Americans to own guns, while 40 percent said protecting gun ownership is more important.
palmtop-tiger said:
This is pretty telling that even with the democratic majority in California and the biased sample they polled that the results were a narrow 60/40 split.
Guns are the issue that most divides the two parties now. A lot of Democrats, even gun owners among them, are fine with these "non-infringements" no matter the inconvenience it causes to the rest of us, and without any idea of the costs of ineffective enforcement.
SCOTUS relisted Friedman v Highland Park this past week, which means they're interested in visiting the issue at some point of AWBs and "high-capacity" magazines. We'll see.
Bodies not even cold and Hillary is already standing on their graves.
It's really bad taste on her part.
It sounds crazy but sometimes I almost wonder if all these shootings recently have been staged.
This is great for Trump and Republicans: terrorism always takes away the spotlight from any other issue of the day. Tonight, no one will care about the Planned Parenthood shooting and Trump's most recent gaffes. He looks like a statesman with that kind of tweet. Also, except the pro-gun side to start really attacking the remaining may-issue states.
I bet the guy behind the planned parenthood shooting was on psychotropic drugs though religion by it's self can sometimes be a hell of a drug.
Char said:
I bet the guy behind the planned parenthood shooting was on psychotropic drugs though religion by it's self can sometimes be a hell of a drug.
Religion and other motivations are a smokescreen. Almost all of these people have something mentally fucked-up about them and/or are on the kinds of drugs you mentioned.
kanika said:
Religion and other motivations are a smokescreen. Almost all of these people have something mentally fucked-up about them and/or are on the kinds of drugs you mentioned.
Still gun control would do jack shit to prevent such attacks they'll still find another way to carry out their attacks.
I read somewhere one and five Americans are on some of psychiatric drug if this is true then over prescription of these drugs is a serious public health issue.
Char said:
It's really bad taste on her part.
It sounds crazy but sometimes I almost wonder if all these shootings recently have been staged.
Jet fuel can't melt steel bars!!!!!
Holy fuvk after seeing THREE bills to ban BBs I was mad. But fucking Obama trying to use celebrities to push antigun propaganda in fucking furious!!!!!
These people have no fucking clue the political hornets nest they're poking.
You can be nice about needing some form of controls... Bernie Sanders is good at that. Or you can be an arrogant asshole about it, which is most gun-control advocates, Hills included.
Reading everyone's posts just seems to reinforce my personal belief that the true purpose of gun control laws is:
1. to trick/scare law-abiding people into never getting or giving up their guns.
2. to reduce the variety and usefulness of guns that still may be legally owned.
3. to fool people into thinking something is actually being done about gun violence.
4. to distract people from matters that might be just as important or more so.
Yup. Especially for number 2 here in California. All handguns need to be on an approved list to be sold here and no new models can be added unless they have microstamping- being able to engrave a unique number on the casing of each bullet fired, a technology which isn't widely available yet. So the amount of handguns allowed to be sold here drops every year unless the companies can continue to pay the "fees" to keep them on the list.
And to numbers 3 and 4, politicians keep focusing on gun violence, which is statistically low, when they should be concerned with overall violence, which is at an all time low. Low hanging fruit.
So many things with microstamping it's not even funny.
First it will wear down after several shots two someone could go gather brass at a the firing range and scatter it about a crime scene.
A criminal would just file the firing pin anyway.
Most gun used in crimes are either purchased on the secondary market or stolen.
Last police weapons are exempt for some reason.
Or they can use a revolver.
And let's not get into caseless ammo.
I imagine that police weapons are exempt because law enforcement doesn't want to keep track of who or what the police are shooting, only who or what everybody else are shooting.
No, because the police are a privileged class above the commoners. All animals are equal, some more equal than others.
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