palmtop-tiger said:
Looks like I overestimated voters' awareness, prop 35 is overwhelmingly approved. On a related note, LA county passed a requirement for condoms in adult films. They just love pushing out business.
you mean "pulling out" business.
palmtop-tiger said:
Looks like I overestimated voters' awareness, prop 35 is overwhelmingly approved. On a related note, LA county passed a requirement for condoms in adult films. They just love pushing out business.
you mean "pulling out" business.
What does this have to do with online freedom?
The internet is for porn.
Pyrolight said:
It is not really vague at all. You have to be convicted of specific crimes to be classified as one.
If they said pervert then there could be issues.
You have seen someone legally convicted as a sex offender in a court of law for pissing on the side of the road? I somehow really doubt that.
Again regardless of what they group within "sex offender" you still have to be convicted and you are already tracked and tagged as one.
The new law itself in no more or less of a slippery slope then the existing one.
Which again is the question. How does this proposed law go from sex offenders to anything unrelated?
Unless this law is capable of redefining what a sex offender is there is no issue.
As it stands this proposed law is basically an extension of an existing law with its current definition of what a sex offender is.
I never supported the existing law in it's present form as it's illogical.
If said sex offender is still dangerous why release them in the first place only to push them to the fringes of society?
This is just asking for reviction possibly on an even worse level then the first offense since there is no motivation for them to change.
In short it may actually be making people less safe.
I think only rapists and child molesters should be on the sex offender list and it should be for three to ten years after release depending on the severity of the crime after which they will be reviewed to see if they still belong on the list.
This would be a police watch list vs a public shame list.
jamesownsall said:
If that was directed at me, you'd understand if you actually read my first post.
No, it was directed at the conversation immediately before my post, of course.
aneko said:
No, it was directed at the conversation immediately before my post, of course.
My bad then.
Unwarranted response deleted for relevance.
Pyrolight said:
You have seen someone legally convicted as a sex offender in a court of law for pissing on the side of the road? I somehow really doubt that.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Can_you_get_put_on_the_sex_offenders_registry_for_public_urination
Quick Goolge search, and yes you can, it has even been made of as a joke in the movie horrible bosses, this is how horribly written some of the US laws are -___-
Char said:
I never supported the existing law in it's present form as it's illogical.
If said sex offender is still dangerous why release them in the first place only to push them to the fringes of society?
This is just asking for reviction possibly on an even worse level then the first offense since there is no motivation for them to change.
In short it may actually be making people less safe.I think only rapists and child molesters should be on the sex offender list and it should be for three to ten years after release depending on the severity of the crime after which they will be reviewed to see if they still belong on the list.
This would be a police watch list vs a public shame list.
I actually agree with you Char, however I think they need to also re-look at child pornography viewersand a child molester/rapist laws when a molester or rapist gets less time then a guy who viewed or accidently visited/downloaded CP gets more prison time, something is off, tho I do want to mention prison, does not rehabilitate criminals it makes them worse, they need to look or research new solutions, cause that same CP viewer will become a full blown child molester/rapist when they are released from prison, hell you can probably put murderer if they get so bad.
master-evil said:
http://wiki.answers.com
aneko said:
Indecent exposure, I would think.
They used the piracy excuse and failed.
They tried the child protection theory and failed that too.
Now they brought up national security, and as usual, people in the House consist mainly of fucking tools.
CISPA 2.0 was passed by House and on the way to the senate.
...Man, this kind of bullshit is already making me exhausted.
I want to talk about un-updated legacy machines(Sony hack). I want to talk about not underestimating social engineering. I want to talk about the IT department doing their fucking job. BUT NO! The security for your own networks has to be the responsibility of the government! "Doesn't matter why we want your log from your ISP; the law states we can take anything because we can! *trollface*"
jamesownsall said:
The security for your own networks has to be the responsibility of the government!
This is the mentality that is eroding the Constitution. Your safety and well being is your own responsibility, not the government's. As Ben Franklin put it "Those who would sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither."
palmtop-tiger said:
On a related note, LA county passed a requirement for condoms in adult films. They just love pushing out business.
Quite. I read on Stoya's blog that several porn companies simply aren't shooting inside the county anymore.
Haha, didn't see the unintentional innuendo there.
California is the only state where it's legal to film porno thanks to court rulings. It's considered prostitution in practically every other state. The porn industry will probably just move out of LA County. To where? Who knows, but they'd better watch out because this is now being proposed statewide.
jamesownsall said:
They used the piracy excuse and failed.They tried the child protection theory and failed that too.
Now they brought up national security, and as usual, people in the House consist mainly of fucking tools.
CISPA 2.0 was passed by House and on the way to the senate.
...Man, this kind of bullshit is already making me exhausted.
I want to talk about un-updated legacy machines(Sony hack). I want to talk about not underestimating social engineering. I want to talk about the IT department doing their fucking job. BUT NO! The security for your own networks has to be the responsibility of the government! "Doesn't matter why we want your log from your ISP; the law states we can take anything because we can! *trollface*"
CISPA is an evil bill that exists for the most nefarious of reasons.
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