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21. 

    jamesownsall
    

    daviddrake said:
    An unfortunate fact about life is that many of the people who are in positions of power are the last ones that should be allowed any. There's corrupt scumbags like this in every country, many of them wearing police uniforms and whatever those funny wigs are called that judges wear.

    Out of the 4 jobs I've been through, I can tell you that I've seen otherwise honest, nice and caring bunnch of people make such a shocking face/heel turn in 2 of those jobs the moment they elevate their positions in the organization. Granted, some manipulative people get to where they are specifically because they are manipulative, but not everyone takes the golden opportunity with the intention of fucking everyone else up.

    It's just the perks of grabbing power; It's more likely to unleash the demon in us because we will then be given the ability to affect someone else's life as we please. Often, without consequences.

    Having experience supervising people myself, sometimes they just have to hate you for being above them though, especially when you make decisions that try to benefit almost everyone but puts a few into the shitter(or so they think).

    Posted 4 years ago #
22. 

    Dark Mage
    

    the-envoy said:
    Mm, seems like they took advantage of him because of his visa status. Or for you conspiracy theorists maybe someone powerful ordered him to be "shaken up" a little because he offended him on his reporting duties. In any case, I had a similar, although nowhere as horrible, experience.

    I had a job interview in Canary Wharf, London a few years ago, and came back on the DLR. I must have made a mistake somewhere because my ticket came up as invalid at a changing station. A Tube officer approached me, and instead of asking me to pay a fine, he asked me for my cash card and pin number. I said no and he mumbled something like "you guys always come in from canary wharf with your huge salaries"

    It was then I realized that he must have thought I was some rich banker from Canary Wharf because I had, naturally, dressed up for the interview. I kept denying his further requests for credit cards and after 15 minutes or so, he allowed me to pay the fine in cash and go.

    In this case and your tube officer encounter the motive likely was nothing more then corruption combined with racism.
    Many times someone will use a position of power will use it as a means to commit extortion esp if they feel it does not pay well enough.
    If you paid cash I would not be surprised if that tube officer pocketed it.
    I'm not sure about UK laws but in the US asking directly for a cash card or credit card number would be grounds for suspension or even termination.

    Even in the US a form of extortion often happens some police will tend to ticket a car with out of state plates as someone from out of state will often just pay the ticket vs appear in court to fight it.

    In a related story I can see why there might have been someone inside the airline pulling numbers out of their ass on the ticket price.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/20/business/global/20jal.html
    He or she probably figured they were going to loose their job anyway so why not make some money under the table with immigration before getting laid off.

    Posted 4 years ago #
23. 

    Envoy Loves You
    

    Char said:

    In this case and your tube officer encounter the motive likely was nothing more then corruption combined with racism.

    In a related story I can see why there might have been someone inside the airline pulling numbers out of his ass on the ticket price.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/20/business/global/20jal.html

    Many times someone will use a position of power will use it as a means to commit extortion esp if they feel it does not pay well enough.
    If you paid cash I would not be surprised if that tube officer pocketed it.

    You reminded me of this
    

    Nevertheless this happens everywhere. Another tiny piece of indicator that you shouldn't expect too much of the world. And I've seen a lot of the world. 2D>3D etc.

    While there are of course, good moments and bad, I can't deny that I am certainly more at home either with a good RPG or the internetz, than out in the "world". But each to their own.

    Posted 4 years ago #
24. 

    Dark Mage
    

    the-envoy said:

    You reminded me of this
    

    Now I need to find and watch this silly movie as it looks hilarious.

    Posted 4 years ago #
25. 

    桂 言葉 死
    

    jamesownsall said:

    Out of the 4 jobs I've been through, I can tell you that I've seen otherwise honest, nice and caring bunnch of people make such a shocking face/heel turn in 2 of those jobs the moment they elevate their positions in the organization.

    Granted, some manipulative people get to where they are specifically because they are manipulative, but not everyone takes the golden opportunity with the intention of fucking everyone else up.

    It's just the perks of grabbing power; It's more likely to unleash the demon in us because we will then be given the ability to affect someone else's life as we please.

    Often, without consequences.

    Having experience supervising people myself, sometimes they just have to hate you for being above them though, especially when you make decisions that try to benefit almost everyone but puts a few into the shitter(or so they think).

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    I agree with the last statement as it's true...

    From my exposure to the (EVIL Immigration) as many have stated here, I shall say, that - not all - are that way...

    I am exposed to these officer(s) every three days and each carry that specific burden of making decisions which may/may not be agreed by everyone. - each decision is based in a situation and each situation is not always as it seems.

    I have seen what they do under extreme duress, under fire, and yes, even when those who tempt the fate of trying to get away with it.

    I have seen many get bribed, look at the individual bribing them and immediately place the cuffs on them, with no hesitation.

    Having been (somewhat) in their shoes, I can say, that its not any easy task to perform the duties that are specific to them each and every day.

    Yes, there are some who take advantage of the position, however, from what I have seen/experienced (personally/professionally) those who test the limits do eventually get caught are dealt with accordingly...

    Don't judge them all for all, are NOT that way...

    This of course is based on my personal experience...

    (edit):

    Just an example btw...

    Posted 4 years ago #
26. 

    Lilith
    

    daviddrake said:

    Good to see you're not overreacting and judging an entire country based on the actions of a handful of scumbags.

    I'm not, there are probably a handful of people in Japan that are okay.

    See? No generalization at all.

    Posted 4 years ago #
27. 

    Nin
    

    Japan's take on human rights is appalling.

    Posted 4 years ago #
28. 

    jamesownsall
    

    Deth said:

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    I agree with the last statement as it's true...

    You're a goddamn mod. An enforcer of forum rules in a place where people expect that they don't have to follow rules(Internet, duh).

    Of course everyone's gonna hate you for it. lol

    Posted 4 years ago #
29. 

    桂 言葉 死
    

    jamesownsall said:

    You're a goddamn mod. An enforcer of forum rules in a place where people expect that they don't have to follow rules(Internet, duh).

    Of course everyone's gonna hate you for it. lol

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    HAHAHAHAHA ~ true...

    I am quite aware of - "the hate" -...

    But ....

    a good cup...

    

    makes me forget the hate....

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    Posted 4 years ago #
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    http://www.poweruprewards.com/PUR/Index/RetroGameVault

    the fuck is this shit

    Posted 4 years ago #
31. 

    Envoy Loves You
    

    Char said:

    Now I need to find and watch this silly movie as it looks hilarious.

    There are 2 other movies in too - just google harold and kumar

    Deth said:

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    HAHAHAHAHA ~ true...

    I am quite aware of - "the hate" -...

    But ....

    a good cup...

    

    makes me forget the hate....

    While I do have a nostalgic longing for the Wild Sankaku of the long dead past, I agree that a lot of the Laws appeared to prevent shit that has happened in the past - some of which could threaten the very existence of Sancon. e.g.: a user was stalked by a troll across several different sites; content that could get this site shut down and people arrested etc.

    Its necessary and I don't hate you mate. But remember, with great responsibility comes great power

    Posted 4 years ago #
32. 

    Envoy Loves You
    

    Since this thread is now about cops, I see these as relevant:
    

    Posted 4 years ago #
33. 

    Dark Mage
    

    I have to say they probably handled the wannbe samurai guy pretty well as they managed to end the standoff without including perpetrator getting seriously hurt.

    People sometimes get crazy like that when on meth.

    Posted 4 years ago #
34. 

    McSquid
    

    Char said:

    In this case and your tube officer encounter the motive likely was nothing more then corruption combined with racism.
    Many times someone will use a position of power will use it as a means to commit extortion esp if they feel it does not pay well enough.
    If you paid cash I would not be surprised if that tube officer pocketed it.
    I'm not sure about UK laws but in the US asking directly for a cash card or credit card number would be grounds for suspension or even termination.

    US privacy laws regarding financial information are very strict. If you're caught misusing someone else's personal info in a position of authority, you'll probably go to prison for longer than a child molester would. Identity theft was a huge concern back in the 90's, which is why states no longer put your SSN on driver's licenses. Any law enforcement agency that still asks for SSNs at traffic stops has not updated its training manuals since the 90's and has simply gotten used to using the SSN as the primary identification tool for law-enforcement use when they should be using driver's license or state-ID numbers instead.

    If they need it, they can easily look it up on their databases via their patrol-car laptops anyway, since every state DMV office collects that data when you get a driver's license. Some states (California is one) actually make it illegal to ask for that kind of information at a traffic stop and/or to put it on a citation.

    Posted 4 years ago #
35. 

    Dark Mage
    

    kanika said:

    US privacy laws regarding financial information are very strict. If you're caught misusing someone else's personal info in a position of authority, you'll probably go to prison for longer than a child molester would. Identity theft was a huge concern back in the 90's, which is why states no longer put your SSN on driver's licenses. Any law enforcement agency that still asks for SSNs at traffic stops has not updated its training manuals since the 90's and has simply gotten used to using the SSN as the primary identification tool for law-enforcement use when they should be using driver's license or state-ID numbers instead.

    If they need it, they can easily look it up on their databases via their patrol-car laptops anyway, since every state DMV office collects that data when you get a driver's license. Some states (California is one) actually make it illegal to ask for that kind of information at a traffic stop and/or to put it on a citation.

    Yes they are very strict.

    Though once I had a cop try to say I needed to be finger printed during a routine traffic stop just because my insurance papers were 2 days out of date but I talked my way out of it saying and got a ticket for a few hundred instead.
    The cop backed down when it became clear I was not some chump who did not understand the law.
    I'm not normally into conspiracies but I think they were trying to build a data base on everyone as it was when GWB was president during 2006 2007.

    They threw the ticket out when I went down and showed proof that I did indeed have insurance.

    Posted 4 years ago #
36. 

    Antiveli
    

    It's a honky. Who cares.

    Posted 4 years ago #
37. 

    Satu
    

    jollyafrican said:
    http://www.poweruprewards.com/PUR/Index/RetroGameVault

    the fuck is this shit

    a failed attempt to derail?

    Posted 4 years ago #
38. 

    Envoy Loves You
    

    01aa said:

    a failed attempt to derail?

    A fail troll. There are only two trolls on this forums who have ever impressed me. May have missed some when I was away.

    Posted 4 years ago #
39. 

    あたしは月姫ですわ
    

    Char said:
    I have to say they probably handled the wannbe samurai guy pretty well as they managed to end the standoff without including perpetrator getting seriously hurt.

    People sometimes get crazy like that when on meth.

    Every time I see a claim like this, my OCD kicks in, so:
    Methamphetamine doesn't really cause violent outburst(only VERY rarely). The cause of the violent outbursts of South-Asian meth users is stress combined with the lack of sleep(and maybe some cultural reasons, see amok).
    The drug which is responsible for most violent outbursts is alcohol(alcohol>cocaine>meth).
    Also, contrary to the popular belief PCP doesn't cause violence either, but it increases suggestibility, so the user's environment and expectations(and maybe desires?) are the main cause of violent behavior.

    Posted 4 years ago #
40. 

    giascle
    

    pilu said:

    Also, contrary to the popular belief PCP doesn't cause violence either, but it increases suggestibility, so the user's environment and expectations(and maybe desires?) are the main cause of violent behavior.

    PCP just makes you get naked and roll around in traffic.

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