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A solution for Manga and Anime - Seasteading

  1. I've recently of this group that wants to create libertarian island micronations in the seas founded by an PayPal exec.

    It's called "The Seasteading Institute".

    http://seasteading.org.

    This may be a long shot, but it might be perfect for Japan's anime and manga creators to escape the witchhunting conservatives, censors, regulators and so-called sprog-loving advocates.

    What do you think?

    Posted 4 years ago #
  2. So... you want to fund a man-made island with a novel system of government just so you can get your loli fix? Glad you have your priorities straight.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  3. giascle said:
    So... you want to fund a man-made island with a novel system of government just so you can get your loli fix? Glad you have your priorities straight.

    This is the first comment you've made that I've thoroughly enjoyed.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  4. It's because I'm a thoroughly enjoyable guy; you're only just realizing it.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  5. Wow making a Oil rig into a city that's not going to easy.

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  6. I dont care much for it to be a city but I would fund so it can be a independent publisher free from moral issues (and its not just for the damn loli fix)

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  7. At first, despite being an optimist I couldn't see how it could ever work.

    But then, slowly it began dawning on me; a floating city made into one large art gallery would actually be pretty good at generating cash... if the seastead was built around the principal of creating artwork free of censorship then it could probably function pretty well.

    -But I doubt it would work if anime and manga where the only genres present. (Just personal opinion there.)

    Posted 4 years ago #
  8. Also inb4 Bioshock

    Posted 4 years ago #
  9. NB4 close due to stupidity of the OP.

    Firstly & foremost, its never gonna happen. The logistic of supporting a habitat with the capacity to produce just one product in this case the porn you desire. Is impossible.

    Where will they get the food to sustain them?
    Where will they get the energy to run their computers & microwaves ovens?
    What will they do with all the biowaste after eating all their junkfood?
    Where will they buy all the raw materials needed to make their business fucntion? Who will refine and manufacture what they need to make your porn?

    Also, which navy is going to protect their little island from the sea pirates? Who could just as easily take over the hood for themselves?

    The floating independent city of Poseiden, is just a figment of the immagination of wishful thinkers.

    No - it ain't gonna happen, not in your lifetime.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  10. UncommonOtaku said:
    NB4 close due to stupidity of the OP.

    Firstly & foremost, its never gonna happen. The logistic of supporting a habitat with the capacity to produce just one product in this case the porn you desire. Is impossible.

    Where will they get the food to sustain them?
    Where will they get the energy to run their computers & microwaves ovens?
    What will they do with all the biowaste after eating all their junkfood?
    Where will they buy all the raw materials needed to make their business fucntion? Who will refine and manufacture what they need to make your porn?

    Also, which navy is going to protect their little island from the sea pirates? Who could just as easily take over the hood for themselves?

    The floating independent city of Poseiden, is just a figment of the immagination of wishful thinkers.

    No - it ain't gonna happen, not in your lifetime.

    You didn't read the frequently asked questions did you?

    Posted 4 years ago #
  11. EleutheroZeroONE said:

    This may be a long shot, but it might be perfect for Japan's anime and manga creators to escape the witchhunting conservatives, censors, regulators and so-called sprog-loving advocates.

    What do you think?

    I think....

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  12. Jakuryusei said:

    You didn't read the frequently asked questions did you?

    Uhmmm could you practice your trolling before posting? Otherwise if you don't have anything to contribute - stfu.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  13. I'm not trolling, this isn't an attempt to aggravate or provoke you.

    I'm just trying to make you read.

    Here are some random excerpts you might be interested in.


    How can you make money on a seastead?
    Seastead residents can make money in a variety of ways. Just as in any land-based city, there will be demand for internal services—plumbers and hairdressers, schoolteachers and doctors. Other seasteaders will produce goods tailored to external markets. Here are just three examples:

    Resorts—Many people go to Club Med and cruise ships with no real intention of ever leaving the facilities. A luxury seastead resort could be tailored to meet the needs of these people. Can a floating luxury resort be profitable? The answer has been yes for decades, as we can see by looking at the cruise ship industry. These ships produce nothing, import all their food, water, and fuel, and still turn a profit. About 10 million people a year take a cruise, providing about $17B in revenue. A floating resort could be a profitable business model. In addition, the number of people willing to spend a few weeks each year on a seastead is far greater than the number willing to drop everything and devote their lives to it. Still, these seasonal opportunities may open doors to more permanent industries and occupations.

    Aquaculture—Farming fish in giant nets near a seastead holds considerable promise. Currently, aquaculture is more feasible nearer to shore. But with the advent of seastead platforms and associated technologies, many fish can be raised in the open ocean – which may more closely resemble their natural habitats.

    Medical tourism—Government bureaucracy is a major barrier to medical and biotechnological advancement. The FDA has historically been slow to approve new medical treatments, and promising improvements in areas such as stem-cell research have been retarded by government policy. Seasteads would provide an excellent place for cutting-edge medical research and treatment.

    As you can see, there are quite a variety of business possibilities for seasteads. These are just a few of the potential industries that are likely to form. As seasteads flourish, the number of industries and job opportunities will increase.

    In what ways will seasteads be autonomous? Will seasteads provide their own food/power?
    Seasteads will be autonomous in that they will set their own local policies. We don't think achieving material self-sufficiency is desirable or necessary. Diesel fuel costs are reasonable to operate generators for electrical power. Importing meat will cost less than raising cattle on a seastead. Rather than seek material self-sufficiency by producing everything themselves, we expect seasteads to specialize in industries where they have a competitive advantage (such as fish farming) and trade for goods that can be produced more efficiently elsewhere.

    What about pirates?
    Although piracy receives a lot of press, it is a relatively rare phenomenon. Pirates typically lurk offshore of unstable regions in the world, such as the southern coast of Africa. A seastead can avoid most piracy risk by not locating near one of these regions. Also, relative to other targets such as container ships, seasteads represent a poor risk/reward ratio to would-be pirates. Container ships carry mostly cargo and small crews. Seasteads carry relatively little valuable cargo and large (likely armed) populations. Seastead residents are likely to fight much harder than container ship crews, as they are defending their own homes and businesses, not a corporation's property. Therefore, it will be wise for pirates to avoid seasteads in favor of easier prey.

    Much piracy is small-scale theft—for example, of the 335 attacks reported in 2001, only 73 involved guns. Sixteen ships were hijacked, and 21 people killed (all but one in Asian waters). A sea-city will be much too large for this kind of criminal. Even an individual seastead—a concrete tower—will be a much tougher target than a luxury yacht. This type of piracy is mainly notable for being vivid and exciting—it is rare enough that oceans are still full of private pleasure craft. Still, we recommend that small seasteads avoid the pirate hotspots (Southeast Asia and Somalia).

    There are larger organized criminal groups involved in piracy that capture entire ships and their goods (often tens of millions of dollars worth). They use forged documents to obtain a new load of cargo from legitimate shippers, and then steal it too. It is worth noting that these groups specifically target container ships, not cruise ships, which is not at all surprising. After all, a container ship has only a few crew and vast amounts of cargo, nicely boxed and ready to be fenced. A cruise ship has far less saleable stuff, and far more people to deal with. In fact, we wouldn’t be surprised if there was 100 times the "crew per $ of movable cargo" for a cruise ship vs. a container ship, so it’s no wonder that thieves focus on the latter! The cost/benefit analysis just doesn’t work out for this kind of crime.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  14. Seasteading is an interesting concept that may work for groups who can do most of their work via telecommunication... or for professional fishers. The logistics surrounding such a floating city/town/village would look a good deal like those of other cities that need to ship in most of their needs, such as Las Vegas...

    I don't think it said so in the snippet Jaku posted, but I believe one of the suggestions for a first generation Seastead was converted cruise ship, which could house between 200-400 people and cost around 10 million USD to purchase and refit (around 25-50 thousand per person). I don't remember off hand how much square footage this'd give on a per person basis. Apparently there actually already are people who permanently inhabit operating cruise ships, I don't have a clue what it costs them.

    I don't have a clue if a Seastead would actually work, or if it'd just collapse. If you got a sufficient number of them together, say enough to house a few tens of thousands, I think the chances of them being able to stick together would be far higher. Either way, it's very interesting, and if Peter Theil and the rest of the Seasteading foundation ever manage to get the capital together to start one up, I think I'd like to visit, maybe even stay if I like it. The thought of not having to pay taxes on income under ~80k US is absolutely delicious, for one thing, and I'd like to try out a completely different mode of living.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  15. Fuck em, not everyone actually hates their governments or their countries that much.

    I like living on the Canadian shield knowing my life is not held at the mercy of the ocean which also acknowledges no rules or laws. I like knowing that although taxes suck, I still get to use what they pay for.

    People hate welfare till they need it, people hate a lot of things, till they need them.

    I don't need seastenders, let them go live on their at the mercy of the ocean micro countries if they wish. I will be laughing at them from dry land. I am not a fish.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  16. UncommonOtaku said:

    Uhmmm could you practice your trolling before posting? Otherwise if you don't have anything to contribute - stfu.

    OH my god, did you of all people just tell this to someone else? Practice your words before preaching them.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  17. um, abracadabra siad sumting

    hes write you know

    ^_^

    Posted 4 years ago #
  18. LuciferOniichan said:
    um, abracadabra siad sumting

    hes write you know

    ^_^

    Lucifer is right I make a boobage.

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  19. Loli+drugs? That's my place!

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  20. I see it failing.

    Posted 4 years ago #

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