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1. 

   jamesownsall
   

   Been wondering what the hell is up with Japan's mainstream music scene and the persistence of music trends that should be canned already(karaokeing pop 'idols' and pretty boybands with no musical talent).

   Interestingly, I found this while looking for reviews on Takotsuboya's K-ON doujins. They tie real well eh? lol

   http://neojaponisme.com/2010/04/05/the-jimusho-system-part-one/

   You might wanna skip to part 4 though. Writer seems to know his shit real deep. Read the comments too.

   The writer seems to suggest some very striking statements, like:

   "The end result, however, is that these firms (1) promote “created” idols over self-motivated talent (2) emphasize pleasant looks and demeanor over artistic talent (3) invest most time and resources into lucrative advertising deals rather than creating “culture.”"

   "But take the case of GLAY. They got into management company problems when they went independent. Then they completely disappeared despite being one of the best selling bands in Japan ever."

   In the US, Warner and Sony seems to hold rights to anything that has some semblence of rhythm, but at least you guys have a relatively wide range of music for the mainstream(teen pop, attention whoring pop, sex-and-violence hip-hop, emo and maybe country).

   In Japan, it feels like the mainstream crowd only knows 'plastic pop'...

   I'm not going to judge you for liking shitty music(or maybe I just did... lol) but it makes me feel crazy to know that if one corporation holds 20% of the mass-media exposure(Johnny's), that 20% will be all plastic pop.

   Any of you Japanese residents care to share your side of the story? Though I don't think you watch TV much, lol.

   Posted 4 years ago # Quote
2. 

   Uncommon0taku
   

   Unfortunately, most Japanese Pop Artists are ruled by their Corporate Supporters/labels.

   Very few have the luxury of total independence when it comes to creativity.
   Unlike western musicians.

   Its just the way their entertainment industry is set up.

   Which is why you have the "idol" agencies and middlemen who can make or break artists in the business.
   -------

   I actually pefer J-Pop to western pop artists, mainly as Char put it "90% of western pop is crap". Because I'm quite fond of love ballads & sagas common in lots of Jpop artists. Also there is more "original" composed music, because of their corporate supporters they can have and use Orchestration with classical instruments, from a few strings (violla & cello) to full symphonic support with a rockband. They're more creative and versital.
   For a western independent - this usually costs lots of money.

   Posted 4 years ago # Quote
3. 

   Dark Mage
   

   Pretty faces and no talent sounds just like 90% of American mainstream music.

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4. 

   pilandi
   

   Something is wrong with that title.

   Posted 4 years ago # Quote
5. 

   Ukonkivi
   

   The way "pop" in Japan is controlled is indeed a problem. But that doesn't mean all of the music is terrible.

   I like how Japanese pop is a lot more electronic and cutesy overall than of most countries. And Utada Hikaru has a really pretty voice. I definitely haven't found most American pop better than most Japanese pop. I've found most American pop unstomachably annoying.

   Unless American pop includes artists like "Death Cab For Cutie". Those are okay. But stuff like Katy Perry makes me want brain bleach. I don't even like to think about the fact stuff like that exists. While on the other hand Utada Hikaru is soothing and I find it personally very beautiful.

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6. 

   Mizushima 水島
   

   western pop just flat up sucks unless u talkin 80's.

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7. 

   Antiveli
   

   White people who have no style that listen to Japanese music make me ashamed to be American.

   Posted 4 years ago # Quote
8. 

   Saber
   

   jamesownsall said:
   Been wondering what the hell is up with Japan's mainstream music scene and the persistence of music trends that should be canned already(karaokeing pop 'idols' and pretty boybands with no musical talent).

   Interestingly, I found this while looking for reviews on Takotsuboya's K-ON doujins. They tie real well eh? lol

   http://neojaponisme.com/2010/04/05/the-jimusho-system-part-one/

   You might wanna skip to part 4 though. Writer seems to know his shit real deep. Read the comments too.

   The writer seems to suggest some very striking statements, like:

   "The end result, however, is that these firms (1) promote “created” idols over self-motivated talent (2) emphasize pleasant looks and demeanor over artistic talent (3) invest most time and resources into lucrative advertising deals rather than creating “culture.”"

   "But take the case of GLAY. They got into management company problems when they went independent. Then they completely disappeared despite being one of the best selling bands in Japan ever."

   In the US, Warner and Sony seems to hold rights to anything that has some semblence of rhythm, but at least you guys have a relatively wide range of music for the mainstream(teen pop, attention whoring pop, sex-and-violence hip-hop, emo and maybe country).

   In Japan, it feels like the mainstream crowd only knows 'plastic pop'...

   I'm not going to judge you for liking shitty music(or maybe I just did... lol) but it makes me feel crazy to know that if one corporation holds 20% of the mass-media exposure(Johnny's), that 20% will be all plastic pop.

   Any of you Japanese residents care to share your side of the story? Though I don't think you watch TV much, lol.

   I think your trolling me or your just autistic.

   Posted 4 years ago # Quote
9. 

   ☆ БОSS ☆
   

   Have you not heard of Radio Disney?
   Music industries around the world push out crap artists all the time

   Posted 4 years ago # Quote
10. 

    チンポくさい
    

    Way pom way pom way way way

    Posted 4 years ago # Quote
11. 

    Myballz
    

    Char said:
    Pretty faces and no talent sounds just like 90% of American mainstream music.

    You never heard of a Artist known as Meat Loaf who was consider over his weight limit?

    Posted 4 years ago # Quote
12. 

    giascle
    

    90% of everything is crap.

    EVERYTHING.

    Posted 4 years ago # Quote
13. 

    alex251
    

    modern western music is all crap for retards

    Posted 4 years ago # Quote
14. 

    Antiveli
    

    I hate this faggot above me more

    Posted 4 years ago # Quote
15. 

    Yandere
    

    sutefuwani said:
    Way pom way pom way way way

    PON PON WAY WAY PON WAY WAY ----- XD t

    Posted 4 years ago # Quote
16. 

    brningpyre
    

    giascle said:
    90% of everything is crap.

    EVERYTHING.

    Even your avatar?

    Posted 4 years ago # Quote
17. 

    giascle
    

    brningpyre said:

    Even your avatar?

    I figured it was obvious I meant "everything except me or anything I have created." You should know by now I'm an exception to these kinds of things.

    Posted 4 years ago # Quote
18. 

    Uncommon0taku
    

    brningpyre said:

    Even your avatar?

    haven't you heard?

    Giascle is perfection incarnate. ^_^

    Posted 4 years ago # Quote
19. 

    jamesownsall
    

    The Antiweeaboo said:
    White people who have no style that listen to Japanese music make me ashamed to be American.

    Good thing I ain't white. I have the same skin disease as Michael Jackson though, so I will litera--

    ...Wait... OH MY FUCKING GOD!!!

    mizushima said:
    western pop just flat up sucks unless u talkin 80's.

    You mean New Kids On the Block was good???

    Rick Astley was good, but he's British.

    triumf said:
    Have you not heard of Radio Disney?
    Music industries around the world push out crap artists all the time

    When companies can literally control what genre of music most people like, there is something wrong there...

    sutefuwani said:
    Way pom way pom way way way

    Faggot if I ever saw one.

    giascle said:
    90% of everything is crap.

    EVERYTHING.

    Might as well burn 90% of the sketches you put for display on SheezyArt.

    alex251 said:
    modern western music is all crap for retards

    Fuck off, man.

    Posted 4 years ago # Quote
20. 

    CC
    

    It's why music sucks everywhere.

    You're cute? Go sing! Slap some autotune digital enhancements on it, add a cheesy tune.. guaranteed success! Mainstream music is always bad with a few exceptions of course.

    At least the backstreet boys/nsync/god knows what days are over
    

    Posted 4 years ago # Quote

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