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Okay gaiz. You've disproven the fact that the first post wouldn't make for enough discussion. I'm impressed.
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unsung said:
me^J'Accuse!
Sorry Nin. Y'know my little rant wasn't directed at you.
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H-Ero said:
Personally, I don't consider something "manga" just because it's in the same style as most real manga (I consider that "manga-influenced"). I consider a comic to be manga if it is originally in Japanese. If a westerner were to make a comic originally in Japanese then I would consider that manga.However, a lot of westerners who want to make manga make them in English. I don't consider those to be real manga, since it's missing authenticity of being in Japanese first.
It's similar to how rich, wiggers from the suburbs get pissed when you tell them they aren't ghetto. They can try as hard as they want but that still won't change the fact that they aren't living in the ghetto.
It's not that you should do the "popular" thing, it's that you shouldn't do the annoying thing. Posting a shit-ton of threads is fine as long as they are decent threads. Just be careful that you don't start a bunch of pointless threads (or repeats of other threads).
You crystallized my thoughts with the 'ghetto' comparison. It's like another kind of posing. Don't worry, I won't start threads that have no point or already discuss a particular topic.
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H-Ero said:
Personally, I don't consider something "manga" just because it's in the same style as most real manga (I consider that "manga-influenced"). I consider a comic to be manga if it is originally in Japanese.If a westerner were to make a comic originally in Japanese then I would consider that manga.However, a lot of westerners who want to make manga make them in English. I don't consider those to be real manga, since it's missing authenticity of being in Japanese first.
^This
The art style has nothing to do with calling it manga
It's manga because it's japanese. If it's english is comics, if it's italian is fumetti.Posted 4 years ago # -
So what is a manga? Isn't manga just the japanese term for comics?
Do I innocently ask.Posted 4 years ago # -
dirtypair said:
So what is a manga? Isn't manga just the japanese term for comics?
Do I innocently ask.pretty much.
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dirtypair said:
So what is a manga? Isn't manga just the japanese term for comics?
Do I innocently ask.I guess the distinction was more spiritual than linguistic :V
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@OP
Do fans of japanese mangas that try to look like a comic get pissed off when you deny that it's actually a comic because it's not American?Posted 4 years ago # -
lol i'd love to meet a reverse weeaboo, some japanese guy who is a die hard disney fan and can't get enough cartoon network and nicktoons.
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dirtypair said:
So what is a manga? Isn't manga just the japanese term for comics?
Do I innocently ask.I'm pretty sure Western comics aren't referred to as manga in Japanese.
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Every animated movie is called anime in jap., so why not also apply the same to his motionless pendant?
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dirtypair said:
Every animated movie is called anime in jap., so why not also apply the same to his motionless pendant?Ask whoever invented the modern Japanese language.
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shomonan said:
You don't like a topic, piss off and don't be a troll.
Because everyone on the Internet who doesn't like something is a troll amirite
shomonan said:
I'm pretty sure Western comics aren't referred to as manga in Japanese.
Yes they are.
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shomonan said:
I'm pretty sure Western comics aren't referred to as manga in Japanese.
Yes, they are. comic = 漫画 (manga) It's that simple in Japanese.
lol But now they call everything コミックス (komikkusu) as well.
So, as you can see, the Japanese don't care what it's called.Well, in actuality, コミックス refers more to the "comics section" of a bookstore more than the actual books, so the nuance is slightly different.
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motaku96 said:
Sorry Nin. Y'know my little rant wasn't directed at you.It was, little Motaku. But I felt that the underlying anger was lacking. You're such a sweet little boy. You could never offend me. ♥
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Manga, it's just a word.
Anime is also just a word.
When we say comic, we normally think comic book even though the word book is stretching it a bit considering they are routinely just a handful of cheap grade pages stapled together.
In Japan, their 'comics' often actually really are books. And it seems they have no beef with non colour. They are read in the reverse direction which takes a bit of getting used to.
But it's just like in their anime, omg that girl has breasts unlike what you routinely get in cartoons (also just a word), which are possibly not even human, just bipedal humanized animals.
Comical culture shock is when you expose someone to manga or anime for the first time, and they have had no previous contact with it and they realize that some cultures don't have a bug up their ass over homosexuality or religion.
As for all the sex, well, I can assure you I can direct you to Roger Rabbit giving Jessica a great facial, or to Homer fucking his daughter if you think cartoons and comics are bloody innocent of the same crimes of content.Thank you for your time, and stop freeting over posting threads. Until the site owner says anything, you have nothing to care about.
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while it is true that "anime" and "manga" are the Japanese terms to describe any piece of animation or comic (and hell, I've even seen "manga" used to describe one-panel political cartoons... I guess so long as it's a still image and it tells a story of some sort, anything goes), that doesn't mean that most people, including the Japanese themselves, can't distinguish this particular culture's entertainment, especially given how the style generally (though not completely, just to acknowledge that exceptions do exist) differs drastically from that of the rest of the world. Of course, for us English-speakers, we've pretty much adapted "anime" and "manga" as words synonymous with any work out of Japan. On 2chan, they have a section exclusively for 海外アニメ漫画 "kaigai anime-manga" (foreign animation and comics), and amusingly enough, the URL for that section uses "cartoon". Also, on Pixiv, I've seen the tag カートゥーン "cartoon" used for artwork that's modeled after either foreign animations or Japanese characters drawn in a more surreal style highly reminiscent of something you'd expect to see in shows like Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends, amongst others. So yeah, anytime you hear someone say "Mickey Mouse is anime", by technicality, they're both right and wrong.
As for this whole thing with OEMs... I dunno. I kinda agree with the wigger comparison. It's all a matter of cultural division, and while a lot of people hold respect towards manga, the simple fact is that they're not living in Japan, and the grand majority of them have never been there before, or even knows much about the culture worth crap. These "OEMs" are merely imitations from people with an outside view of Japan, nothing more than American comics that adapted select traits from Japanese comics. Not that there's anything wrong with that (hell, the Japanese are just as guilty of this cross-pollination between cultures over the ages), but people who draw such things shouldn't be considering their works to be "manga", at least not in the sense that these are the same kind of pieces that everyone loves in Shonen Jump and the like. In my personal opinion, they always fall short of trying to capture the Japanese aesthetic, to a point where even the average Japanese doujinshi author could make them look bad.
Can there be an OEM that can be viewed in the same vein as a "true" manga? It's possible. It wouldn't be unheard of for a Japanese immigrant, or even a western-born citizen who's REALLY done the research, to produce a "manga" that's merely been published originally in English (or some other European language).... come to think of it, a long time ago, Nintendo Power magazine ran comics based off of Mario and Zelda. They were English, of course, but they were being made exclusively for the publication by experienced Japanese authors (one of whom was even the late Shotaro Ishinomori, of Cyborg 009 and Kamen Rider fame). So should these be considered "manga"? Or should they be denied of such a classification just for being originally in English? Make of that what you will.
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This reminds me of an episode in Excel Saga where Sandora(Pedro's son) wants to make "Japanese Animation" but at the end they tell him he can't because he's not Japanese and therefore it will not be anime.
Ninsheart said:
It was, little Motaku. But I felt that the underlying anger was lacking. You're such a sweet little boy. You could never offend me. ♥
D-Don't think so highly of yourself! The original post was really directed at everyone. Y-you just happened to be in the pack.
Posted 4 years ago # -
Okay guys, so I love cake right. But just the other day I learned that there where other flavors of cake and know I'm all like, "don't know if want."
Now I don't know if I like cake so as I like a specific flavor or rather perhaps just a specific chef that has earned my
personaluniversal and irrefutable seal of approval. Darn all these chefs for baking differently! Darn them all to heck! (except that one I like of course.)Posted 4 years ago # -
American comics are called "comics".
Japanese comics are called "manga".
Korean comics are called "Manhwa".
=)Posted 4 years ago #
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