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    What's the deal? I'm going to hell for looking at loli's, but am I going to jail anytime soon? And how, if at all, does this affect our beloved Sankaku Complex?

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  2. well the article says he had actual kiddy porn and received emails of parents molesting tehir children so i'm pretty sure that's the main reason they're pissed at him

    I don't know what the hell the law really thinks about all this but i'm pretty sure there's some semblance of a level system about how dangerous a person is, even if not spoken.

    I'm saying like a person checking out Loli doujins is at least different level wise then that of somebody with Kiddy porn.

    What really sucks about all of this is if cases like these keep coming up The courts might say Loli images are connected to actual child abuse which i would think would cause a ban

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  3. Its people like this that are just going to screw it up for everybody else

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    There's an upcoming Iowa case, similar to this sans real CP. The guy from iowa is charged for having gay shota manga.

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  5. It's been ruled before that lolicon is completely legal in the US. It's not legal to buy, sell, or transport it over state lines, however.

    Shota, I'm not so sure..

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  6. Spoony_Bard said:
    It's been ruled before that lolicon is completely legal in the US. It's not legal to buy, sell, or transport it over state lines, however.

    Shota, I'm not so sure..

    don't see how it would be different. It's just an underage boy drawing instead of an underage girl. lets see the gay rights group bail HIM out. Personally I trust the comic book defense fund millions of times more then i do the ACLU. Prove me wrong ACLU, take this case.

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  7. its a dissapointing case, as the guy had real child pornography, it seems to have set the whole case up "wrongly" for the rest of us, hes beeing treated as a realy nasty child eating pedophile, so all his material must be child porn. The drawn and textual stuff has to be dropped from the case, but hes stuffed when it comes to his real pictures

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    Spoony_Bard said:
    It's been ruled before that lolicon is completely legal in the US. It's not legal to buy, sell, or transport it over state lines, however.

    Shota, I'm not so sure..

    Was overturned in 2006.

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    ^^^^ oops my bad, I thought you typed "illegal".

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    Was overturned in 2006.

    I heard about that law but I don't remember seeing that when I read the bill. I might have missed something, but I'm fairly certain it doesn't differ much from what I said. If I'm wrong, please feel free to correct me.

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  11. well you can just say Loli and the like are just in that gray area.

    my point is if you have actual kiddy stuff with real children being taken advantage of and abused then yeah that's real freaking bad and should be punished severely.

    but as for me checking out 2d, not real, somebody drew this on paper, its just lines, art (well erotic art). I don't feel that bad as the only one affected is me and nobody gets hurt. To me its really two different things and not on the same level

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  12. judging from the Guro thread there are people who fap to murder victims. By CP logic shouldn't guro be legal but real murder scene pix from rotten.com be illegal as they "encourage" murder and satiate the feelings of those who masturbate to it?

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    eh...guro..never, ever got that shit.

    Hopefully never will and I say that unapologetically.

    I will admit that i've fapped to a messed up story here or there but not to the actual gore of something. i was taught to keep my mouth shut if i have nothing nice to say but i just worry for people that like that kind of stuff.It Might mess them up real bad.

    Guro in itself is different as i believe its not about sex...i don't know what the hell its about but its certainly not sexual..in a sexual intercourse type of way.

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    tingle said:
    judging from the Guro thread there are people who fap to murder victims. By CP logic shouldn't guro be legal but real murder scene pix from rotten.com be illegal as they "encourage" murder and satiate the feelings of those who masturbate to it?

    You make a good arguement here too

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    Guro in itself is different as i believe its not about sex...i don't know what the hell its about but its certainly not sexual..in a sexual intercourse type of way.

    Eh? Of course guro is sexual. It's the sexual attraction towards gore. Just because it's not intercourse doesn't mean it' not sexual.

    But I do agree that guro should be scrutinized more closely than lolicon. Lolicon is fine, but fapping to dead, gored bodies is much too abnormal, even for me.

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    Spoony_Bard said:

    Eh? Of course guro is sexual. It's the sexual attraction towards gore. Just because it's not intercourse doesn't mean it' not sexual.

    But I do agree that guro should be scrutinized more closely than lolicon. Lolicon is fine, but fapping to dead, gored bodies is much too abnormal, even for me.

    now that's necrophillia

    gross

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  17. As disgusted as I am by Guro let alone people who masturbate to REAL gore as a lolicon I should not judge but DAMN that's gross. Like Scat gross.

    If gore pix are legal and murder scene evidence technicly CP should be too. I hate it when I talk like a liberterian. I think lolicon is a great alternative to real child porn and helps deviate it further from reality. I used to feel guilty watching real (adult) porn knowing the lives and drug habits of the adults in the porn industry but hentai became a nice alternative for me because no girl is really shaming herself or her family. Now as I'm older I watch regular porn again and no longer care. I even watch with my wife and neither of us had sex before marriage.

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  18. Gore pics should probably be restricted to police and people who actually need to see them. Real CP on the other hand, should remain restricted entirely. It psychologically and physically harms real children. Saying that, I think the definition of children should be lowered to 12 or 13, rather than 18. After all, I know many people who were sexually active at 12.

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    Spoony_Bard said:
    Gore pics should probably be restricted to police and people who actually need to see them. Real CP on the other hand, should remain restricted entirely. It psychologically and physically harms real children. Saying that, I think the definition of children should be lowered to 12 or 13, rather than 18. After all, I know many people who were sexually active at 12.

    amen to that..the first part. About the lowered age, i can't help but think of some 40 something year old taking advantage of a little 12 year old. maybe there should be a 13-18 limit then 18 and up... but then again i wouldn't want my daughter(if i had one) having sex at any freaking age let alone 13-18

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  20. Spoony_Bard said:

    Eh? Of course guro is sexual. It's the sexual attraction towards gore. Just because it's not intercourse doesn't mean it' not sexual.

    But I do agree that guro should be scrutinized more closely than lolicon. Lolicon is fine, but fapping to dead, gored bodies is much too abnormal, even for me.

    yeah, i was anon that wrote those comments in.. i guess i wasn't signed in.

    To me its not sexual as how i see sexual. I mean what in the laws of nature makes gore sexually attractive? Its like encoded in our DNA to want healthy looking women to have kids with but with that, what would be sexually attractive about gore? I refuse to connect the two. Its the person (necrophiliac) who sees an image of gore that makes it sexual. Gore in itself to me is nowhere near sexually attractive -_-

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