odysseus said:
the male sex is an unnecessary part of the future.
what do you mean by the 'future'?
that statement suggests that there exists an overall goal. if there is i am curious as to what it is.
odysseus said:
the male sex is an unnecessary part of the future.
what do you mean by the 'future'?
that statement suggests that there exists an overall goal. if there is i am curious as to what it is.
Interesting Science:
-Cows don't fart methane, they burp methane.
-Adam and Eve do not have belly button.
-Elephants are scared of pig's squeal.
-The ferris wheel used to be an idea of transportation.
Can we go without females?
Well only if you can figure out how to replace the source of eggs.
Can we do without males?
Again, only if you can figure out hoe to replace the source of sperm.
Our species reproduces by combining sperm and eggs. I'm sure cloning has occurred to some, but a clone is only a copy. Unless you can figure out how to produce a human that isn't a copy from cloning, it has limitations.
Now being a male, and it being 6:49 as I type, my balls have just recently been emptied into my wife. Some of you guys might not like this, but as I do this every damned morning, I have a very large sum of instances to observe. I DO feel considerably smarter AFTER emptying my balls through ejaculation.
It may well be, that we guys likely should jack off before writing any tests in school.
I know I have told my counselor she's never talked to me before my morning fuck, and as a result, has never actually met the asshole that dominates my morning. She only manages to meet my more predominantly feminine self who is less likely to be a prick.
Not being capable of experiencing the female experience of mood shifts prior to, or during, or following a menstrual cycle, I can't claim to have any insight to how that all feels. But we DO have medical science telling us that PMS is an actual problem, and in some cases even an excuse for lessening punishment for criminal acts.
I personally think guys likely should be able to get some manner of slack for any actions taken if they have not recently ejaculated. Not that it should make some actions less unacceptable. But I bet more men would have more self control, if they had less sperm in their balls in some cases.
You girls would do well, to spend more time trying to reason with us guys FOLLOWING watching us empty our balls. How you do it is of course not relevant, just that you witness our balls being emptied. 15 minutes AFTER seeing our cocks shoot forth our sperm, somehow, is a lot better time to discuss anything meaningful with us.
I don't expect virgins to really understand what I am getting at so much. Although even a virgin can likely experience the effects of emptied balls.
It sure would make for an interesting science experiment, to actually do clinic studies of male students who were required to jack off before writing any tests at school. Sure would make for an interesting time prior to that period :) Not sure how they would arrange for a typical room full of males to arrive at empty balls. I guess having the class's girls do it is massively unrealistic :)
In more boring, but more serious and definitely genuine scientific matters, I have read reports that claim the world's global male population's over all sperm counts are dwindling due to an ever increasing assault on our water supply and in all the sum total of chemicals we regularly consume in ordinary food and drink.
The numbers are not serious 'yet', but the fact they are there at all is a problem.
odysseus said:
I think that males have a sufficient history of holding females back from achieving great things to preclude this argument.
How interesting that you brought that up. Playing the victim card already? So, what say you of the male to female ratio in the fields of science, technology, engineering, and math in this present age?
someone said science? (where's Char? he'll love this thread)
Walking With Dinosaurs Ep1 - New Blood
say what you will biology still counts!
monsoon said:
How interesting that you brought that up. Playing the victim card already? So, what say you of the male to female ratio in the fields of science, technology, engineering, and math in this present age?
It's rather difficult for me to play victim when I'm male. Now that I've gotten some sleep (albeit, only a few hours), I'm not entirely certain where my previous post was going... a pity, since it might have been worth pursuit (or more likely, it may have been completely useless).
Why there is a greater male to female ratio in STEM... hmm, well, actually, the female/male ratio in technology and engineering has been steadily (if slowly, and more slowly in engineering than technology) leveling out. Science and math have been improving, but at an abysmal rate. So why is there a male/female disparity in these fields? In no particular order (aka, in the order stuff gets to my head)...
1) Science and mathematics are male dominated. Male dominated. Dominated. Many of these men (they're usually, but not always, older) require a higher level of performance from female newcomers than male newcomers. Don't ask why, I could make up reasons, but this is a personal observation from my time studying physics in university.
2) Females tend to be more social-oriented, and while math, science, and engineering are cool... they aren't so cool to do. Entering into science, math, and engineering puts them into role of the "other," as I believe psychologists/sociologists like to call it, which makes it more difficult for these women to form social connections.
3) Females in their younger years tend to out-perform their male peers in their science classwork, however, about the onset of puberty, their performance tends to drop. Why? The reasoning that was presented was that they didn't want to intimidate males in whom they held sexual interest. I don't recall if the groups who studied this had any material to back their intimidation claim up, but it does make sense.
4) Females tend to pick up social cues to a greater degree than males. It's been found that girls being taught math by female instructors who are uncomfortable with math tend to be... uncomfortable with math, while the boys perform roughly the same. It seems that the girls pick up on the female instructors' "fear of math" and process that as "oh, I should be afraid of this as well," probably subconsciously.
There are probably more factors in the male/female STEM disparity, but I feel that these are the main ones.
soupz said:
what do you mean by the 'future'?
that statement suggests that there exists an overall goal. if there is i am curious as to what it is.
No goal or plan. I do think that there'll be a trend towards a single-sex society, or at least one in which one or the other gender is rare, should certain technologies come about, and into popular use. I'd rather it be a female society, as I feel that androgens are detrimental to a healthy society.
I've talked about the de-masculinization of males, but there's also been a certain masculinization of females. I don't feel that either is particularly bad or wrong, just pointing out what I've read and witnessed in society. I've read that trace amounts of plastics or chemicals in plastics that are causing the former, but I don't know what's causing the latter. My guess on the latter is that females find it easier to interact with males on more equal footing if they behave in a masculine manner, or that females are finding some sort of lack in masculine behaviour in males, and are seeking to fill that gap.
a futanari society...how interesting.....*rubs phallus chin*
Here. Go right ahead and prove them wrong.
http://theflatearthsociety.org/cms/
(hey it's my homework and I'm too lazy to look up sources n shit)
antika said:
Here. Go right ahead and prove them wrong.http://theflatearthsociety.org/cms/
(hey it's my homework and I'm too lazy to look up sources n shit)
I don't do other people's homework for them, but I am entirely happy to review it, provide advice, give a little nudge here or there...
unsung said:
a futanari society...how interesting.....*rubsphalluschin*
AFK a few... I need to, uhm... cook something, yeah, that's it... *pulls up the channel, dumps "Futanari" into the search, and grabs a few tissues*
odysseus said:
I don't do other people's homework for them, but I am entirely happy to review it, provide advice, give a little nudge here or there...
Sadly I'm not writing it in English but thanks anyway. :C
odysseus said:
i didn't have a problem with your hypothesis, just that particular statement. the use of the term unnecessary in that statement suggests that there is some utopian ideal that the 'superorganism' that is humanity is 'progressing' to. such ideas disgust me so i couldn't help but point it out.
though i do again have a problem with this,
I'd rather it be a female society, as I feel that androgens are detrimental to a healthy society.
though i would prefer that men didn't exist as well, but the same for women. people should all just die imo. apart from me ofc, me and 2D.
@monsoon
why was there a severe disruption in intellectual progress during the time of the Romans?
they took over after the greeks, the first great period of intellectual inquiry, yet there is pretty much nothing to be gained from their works.
soupz said:
i didn't have a problem with your hypothesis, just that particular statement. the use of the term unnecessary in that statement suggests that there is some utopian ideal that the 'superorganism' that is humanity is 'progressing' to. such ideas disgust me so i couldn't help but point it out.
though i do again have a problem with this,
I'd rather it be a female society, as I feel that androgens are detrimental to a healthy society.though i would prefer that men didn't exist as well, but the same for women. people should all just die imo. apart from me ofc, me and 2D.
@monsoon
why was there a severe disruption in intellectual progress during the time of the Romans?
they took over after the greeks, the first great period of intellectual inquiry, yet there is pretty much nothing to be gained from their works.
I like an utopian ideal (it gives us something to work for), but most "utopias" portrayed in fiction are actually dystopias. EDIT: I also have no idea of what a utopian society made up of humans would look like. I can figure out what it'd look like populated with machines, but...
Why was there a severe disruption in intellectual progress during the middle ages?
The Muslims were doing most of the work in science and math at the time, but the christians thought that the crusades would be a fantastic idea... which left all the work of science and math up to... christian monks.
I don't know much outside of the world of optics for this piece of history, but I do know that much of modern optics is reconstructed from those (sarcasm) towel-headed terrorists (/sarcasm)
you gave an idea for a new thread thanks!
odysseus said:
you missed my point.
the romans, not so different from the greeks, didn't accomplish much in any field of intellectual inquiry.
what happened? are the romans just stupid? did they suddenly devolve into monkeys?
I like an utopian ideal (it gives us something to work for), but most "utopias" portrayed in fiction are actually dystopias. EDIT: I also have no idea of what a utopian society made up of humans would look like. I can figure out what it'd look like populated with machines, but...
there you did it again,
utilitarian thinking.
soupz said:
you missed my point.
the romans, not so different from the greeks, didn't accomplish much in any field of intellectual inquiry.
what happened? are the romans just stupid? did they suddenly devolve into monkeys?
I like an utopian ideal (it gives us something to work for), but most "utopias" portrayed in fiction are actually dystopias. EDIT: I also have no idea of what a utopian society made up of humans would look like. I can figure out what it'd look like populated with machines, but...there you did it again,
utilitarian thinking.
Guilty as charged. Existence without some sort of goal disinterests me, whether it be a goal set by myself (ourselves) or some sort of "greater existence" (I prefer the former, since the "greater existence" has yet to be shown to exist). I do think that even without some sort of goal there exist trends towards some sort of ideal, whether it be utopian or dystopian (or somewhere in the middle). With goals and plans in mind, we might be able to steer it towards the former.
Weren't the romans either too busy expanding their boarders or (later) too busy trying to maintain stability with an oversized, overpopulated empire with a governmental system and underlying culture that were not up to the task?
I should state that outside of a few areas in which I have studied the topic, history is at most a passing interest for me. I'm as much an expert in history as, say, english... and the romans really don't interest me nearly as much as the greeks.
unsung said:
someone said science? (where's Char? he'll love this thread)Walking With Dinosaurs Ep1 - New Blood
say what you will biology still counts!
Ok I'm here.
First sex is needed and cloning will not replace it because of an issue known as genetic variability which with clones you end up with a lack of.
On females not often going into science and math it's more cultural then anything else.
Many don't pursue such careers because they simply are not encouraged to when young.
soupz said:
you missed my point.
the romans, not so different from the greeks, didn't accomplish much in any field of intellectual inquiry.
what happened? are the romans just stupid? did they suddenly devolve into monkeys?
I like an utopian ideal (it gives us something to work for), but most "utopias" portrayed in fiction are actually dystopias. EDIT: I also have no idea of what a utopian society made up of humans would look like. I can figure out what it'd look like populated with machines, but...there you did it again,
utilitarian thinking.
I found the cost for utopia is simply too high and any attempt to make one inevitably ends up creating a dystopia.
It's better to have an imperfect but still good society vs a totalitarian regime.
Char said:
Ok I'm here.
First sex is needed and cloning will not replace it because of an issue known as genetic variability which with clones you end up with a lack of.On females not often going into science and math it's more cultural then anything else.
Many don't pursue such careers because they simply are not encouraged to when young.I found the cost for utopia is simply too high and any attempt to make one inevitably ends up creating a dystopia.
It's better to have an imperfect but still good society vs a totalitarian regime.
I'm not discussing cloning (I also don't particularly feel that there's anything wrong with it, either). I'm discussing the combination of genes from two different people in an artificial manner. With current technology I know this is possible, but I'm not sure if sperm is required (I'm fairly certain it is... with current technology).
Governments and societies formed without goals and planning tend towards totalitarian regimes. Governments and societies without constant intercession from the populace tend towards totalitarian regimes. Governments and societies tend towards totalitarian regimes. So, let's form a society formed with goals and planning, and let's try and find a populace that will work towards its own good. Delving into politics (for a little), I feel that the latter is where the US failed, so let's experiment with a different populace. What meaningful characteristics can we change within the populace? Preferably characteristics that won't revert back to that of the previous populace (rendering our experiment a failure).
odysseus said:
Weren't the romans either too busy expanding their boarders or (later) too busy trying to maintain stability with an oversized, overpopulated empire with a governmental system and underlying culture that were not up to the task?
i'm not a history nut either. just pointing out that men not so different from one another accomplished truly different things. one group were warriors, one group discoverers.
the only big difference was the underlying factors.
and so, now monsoon was meant to go:
'ah i see. so underlying factors matter'.
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