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odysseus said:
in a society where guns are outlawed, only the outlaws will carry guns
(and they will).
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Alright politicians that I like:
Josef Stalin
Napoleon Bonaparte
Thomas Jefferson
Lelouch Lamperouge
Vlad the ImpalerWell....weren't they all somewhat involved with politics?
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puppetmaster said:
Alright politicians that I like:
Josef Stalin
Napoleon Bonaparte
Thomas Jefferson
Lelouch Lamperouge
Vlad the Impalerisawwhatyoudidthar
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odysseus said:
in a society where guns are outlawed, only the outlaws will carry guns
(and they will).This is the truth.
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unsung said:
isawwhatyoudidthar
Hehe
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I remember reading a chart once that showed areas with strict gun control laws had the highest rate of gun-related crimes/death while areas will VERY lax gun control laws had the oppisite effect
oh the fail on anti-gun laws~
puppetmaster said:
Hehe/scared
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unsung said:
I remember reading a chart once that showed areas with strict gun control laws had the highest rate of gun-related crimes/death while areas will VERY lax gun control laws had the oppisite effectoh the fail on anti-gun laws~
/scared
I remember seeing police statistics from around the world that said the complete opposite.
Could it be that the chart was based only on the US? If so, there are two problems: gun-control tends to be stronger in urban areas than rural ones, for various reasons. Crime tends to be much higher in urban areas than rural ones, for various other reasons.
The second is that gun laws are pretty pointless when you can get hold of one easily in the next state. I can only see them working if they were equally strong across a country.
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kudichan said:
The second is that gun laws are pretty pointless when you can get hold of one easily in the next state. I can only see them working if they were equally strong across a country.Pfft. You can even find illegal firearms in Japan, which, as far as I know, is one of the most strict gun-control countries in the world.
kudichan said:
Could it be that the chart was based only on the US? If so, there are two problems: gun-control tends to be stronger in urban areas than rural ones, for various reasons. Crime tends to be much higher in urban areas than rural ones, for various other reasons.There was a city on the east coast, in God Blessed Nation of Merka that banned firearms for a time. They found that violent crime increased. Don't ask me for a source, since I don't recall.
Either way, it's fairly easy to make a simple firearm with common household goods. Making it so that it functions safely, on the other hand...
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potato gun!
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unsung said:
potato gun!/Me want
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odysseus said:
False. I don't shoot everyone who comes to my door... or anyone, for that matter, no matter how much they piss me off. In the US, anyways, anyone can have a gun, unless they're a felon or have certain mental disorders. As is so often said: in a society where guns are outlawed, only the outlaws will carry guns (and they will).
I feel that if everyone open-carried a firearm (and concealed-carried one for extra measure...) a lot of people would become a lot more respectful and polite, and if people expected each other and themselves to think before doing (aka use the not-so-common common-sense) the world would be a better place. Instead we run to the local emergency services (who can't respond in time) and the government for help and wonder why things don't turn out the way we want them to. Stand up for yourselves people, you shouldn't rely on someone you don't know for help, because you don't know how reliable they'll be. When you can't do something yourself, that's what friends and family are for.
Right, just because you behave everyone will follow, if that is the case, the world would be at peace today.
Everyone will be politie and respectful? I think its more like they are scared and intimited by the guns of each other that they pretend to be.
The gangs have gun, they shoot each other instead of being polite, image road rage, verbal argument, school fight and any other shit that now get turn into gun fights. Yep, everyone can stand up for themselves now, but instead of getting a few bruises, you get shot, or you shot somebody. (Not that i don't like the idea.)Friends and family? you mean if there is someone carrying a gun and threatened you, you will not seek help from the cops, but instead bring your own gun, along with your friends and family, who are also armed, and settle it with bullets?
Anyway, i do agree with the arming of conveniece store clerks, business owners and anyone who feel threatend, because like you said, help can't get there fast enough.
This is all just based on North America.
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put on a black shirt :V
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odysseus said:
Pfft. You can even find illegal firearms in Japan, which, as far as I know, is one of the most strict gun-control countries in the world.
Is that the same Japan where about three people are shot dead every year?
Of course, you can get guns anywhere if you're willing to go to enough effort; it's just that the amount of effort required to import them from abroad is ever so slightly greater than the amount of effort required to get them from the next town over, thus putting a lot of people off and making the supply very scarce. Believe it or not (most gun nuts don't), only a small minority of people inclined towards committing crimes will go to any great effort to get hold of a gun if one isn't readily available; if thee were the kind of people willing to make that kind of effort, they probably wouldn't be drawn to crime in the first place. Criminals are usually very lazy people.
flamehaze628 said:
Right, just because you behave everyone will follow, if that is the case, the world would be at peace today.
Everyone will be politie and respectful? I think its more like they are scared and intimited by the guns of each other that they pretend to be.
The gangs have gun, they shoot each other instead of being polite, image road rage, verbal argument, school fight and any other shit that now get turn into gun fights. Yep, everyone can stand up for themselves now, but instead of getting a few bruises, you get shot, or you shot somebody. (Not that i don't like the idea.)Friends and family? you mean if there is someone carrying a gun and threatened you, you will not seek help from the cops, but instead bring your own gun, along with your friends and family, who are also armed, and settle it with bullets?
Anyway, i do agree with the arming of conveniece store clerks, business owners and anyone who feel threatend, because like you said, help can't get there fast enough.
This is all just based on North America.
Don't bother arguing; Americans think that real life works like a Hollywood movie: a shootout will solve everything and the good guy will always win in the end.
The fact we can see that things don't work out this way makes no difference to them.
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flamehaze628 said:
Right, just because you behave everyone will follow, if that is the case, the world would be at peace today.Everyone will be politie and respectful? I think its more like they are scared and intimited by the guns of each other that they pretend to be.
The gangs have gun, they shoot each other instead of being polite, image road rage, verbal argument, school fight and any other shit that now get turn into gun fights. Yep, everyone can stand up for themselves now, but instead of getting a few bruises, you get shot, or you shot somebody. (Not that i don't like the idea.)Friends and family? you mean if there is someone carrying a gun and threatened you, you will not seek help from the cops, but instead bring your own gun, along with your friends and family, who are also armed, and settle it with bullets?
Anyway, i do agree with the arming of conveniece store clerks, business owners and anyone who feel threatend, because like you said, help can't get there fast enough.
This is all just based on North America.
If someone is threatening me with a firearm, the situation will have been concluded before the police ever arrive, whether I am armed or not. The only likely situation in which this is not the case is a hostage situation.
Around here we have no gangs, most everyone is armed (in their house, anyways, and often with a secure weapon in their vehicle), and most people are polite. I don't fear people because they have a gun, but I do take the time to not upset them. The little crime that does occur around here is usually spousal abuse, and that's usually handled by the cops. The rare disputes that I've heard of around here that involve firearms usually consist of someone telling an intruder to leave their house... at the end of a shotgun (effective in most cases).
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odysseus said:
If someone is threatening me with a firearm, the situation will have been concluded before the police ever arrive, whether I am armed or not. The only likely situation in which this is not the case is a hostage situation.
Around here we have no gangs, most everyone is armed (in their house, anyways, and often with a secure weapon in their vehicle), and most people are polite. I don't fear people because they have a gun, but I do take the time to not upset them. The little crime that does occur around here is usually spousal abuse, and that's usually handled by the cops. The rare disputes that I've heard of around here that involve firearms usually consist of someone telling an intruder to leave their house... at the end of a shotgun (effective in most cases).
Then you are only talking from a local perspective my friend, i don't need to say more. On a side note, nice community you have there.
You said that things will be resolve whether you are armed or not? i hope you mean that someone is dead before the police arrive, because if you are unarmed and against a gun user, that is just tough guy talk.
kudichan said:
Don't bother arguing; Americans think that real life works like a Hollywood movie: a shootout will solve everything and the good guy will always win in the end.
The fact we can see that things don't work out this way makes no difference to them.
You are right, i think i am just going to exit this thread, since the only politician i ever liked is this guy:
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unsung said:
potato gun!I've made air cannons like that though never one that big and tripod mounted.
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Char said:
I've made air cannons like that though never one that big and tripod mounted.AWESOME! I want one~
/feelsjellynow
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flamehaze628 said:
You said that things will be resolve whether you are armed or not? i hope you mean that someone is dead before the police arrive, because if you are unarmed and against a gun user, that is just tough guy talk.Either I did a poor job of conveying myself, or you understood... or both. I mean that on the rare occasion that someone attempts house invasion, usually they are fended off by a resident with a firearm. Other forms of theft and violence are rare in the extreme. Also, if it can work in one area, it can work in others. A population that is ready to defend itself at least has the opportunity to do so.
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odysseus said:
Either I did a poor job of conveying myself, or you understood... or both. I mean that on the rare occasion that someone attempts house invasion, usually they are fended off by a resident with a firearm. Other forms of theft and violence are rare in the extreme. Also, if it can work in one area, it can work in others. A population that is ready to defend itself at least has the opportunity to do so.
"If someone is threatening me with a firearm, the situation will have been concluded before the police ever arrive, whether I am armed or not. The only likely situation in which this is not the case is a hostage situation."
^I was responding to that.
Meh, i think i will just go "404 - Suicider Not Found" for your ignorance.
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flamehaze628 said:
"If someone is threatening me with a firearm, the situation will have been concluded before the police ever arrive, whether I am armed or not. The only likely situation in which this is not the case is a hostage situation."
^I was responding to that.
Meh, i think i will just go "404 - Suicider Not Found" for your ignorance.
Ah, I understand. I meant that if someone is threatening me with a firearm, and I am unarmed, I will likely be wounded, dead, or robbed before the police arrive. If I've got a firearm, I'm more likely to be able to dissuade the miscreant from wounding, killing, or robbing me... and if someone's got my back, the likelihood of chasing the miscreant off without harm coming to anyone is far greater.
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