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well,... I couldn't be a weeaboo.
my mom is japanese, & i got relatives in otaku land.
o_o
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Posted 5 years ago #
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maid said:
Nobody is forcing you to view their youtube video, or hang out with them whatsoever...
The thing about annoying things?
It's not your choice whether you want to be with them or not.
They're either following you, or pretty much everywhere.If they were so easily avoided they wouldn't be counted as 'annoying'.
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maid said:
Nobody is forcing you to view their youtube video, or hang out with them whatsoever...I don't hang them. They are just there and nothing can't be done. Like in the library or conventions. At least I'm nice and try to get away from them. It's when they try to interact with me that I lose patience.
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the-envoy said:
Like saying "amigo" when there is already "friend"?
Except that people only use "amigo" ironically. If someone used it instead of "friend" every single time, it would get hella annoying.
maid said:
Nobody is forcing you to view their youtube video, or hang out with them whatsoever...
How about you never make this point again.
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I just don't like it when people shove their interests on me.
If they want to talk to me, they should at least respect the possibility that not everyone is into the same shit as them. I don't care what language you want to mix. If there is already the word with the same meaning in, for example, English, don't mix an equivalent Japanese word instead. It makes for a disjointed, unnerving conversation.
Another thing these so-called weeaboos like to do is to insert those sounds in the end of a sentence that don't belong in the culture of the language: the 'ne' and 'desu' commonly(inb4thememe). It just doesn't belong in English language.
If you're not undergoing some kind of Japanese orientation program(for the purpose of studying, working, or why the hell not, living there), it's much more polite for Americans/British to speak English, French to speak French, Chinese to speak Chinese, etc... You get the idea, and I meant in as grammatically proper as possible.
PS: Where's the earlier block of text you were going to justify your opinions with, maid? Just curious.
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antika said:
I don't hang them. They are just there and nothing can't be done. Like in the library or conventions. At least I'm nice and try to get away from them. It's when they try to interact with me that I lose patience.
Well, conventions and libraries (I'm guessing the manga section) are places where you should be especially tolerant on the kind of people you meet. You surely wouldn't expect going to a convention and meeting a bunch of intelectuals discussing the similitudes between Haruhi and Leo Tolstoy over a cup of earl gray... Conventions are the best place to act weeaboo, in my opinion.
jamesownsall said:
I just don't like it when people shove their interests on me.If they want to talk to me, they should at least respect the possibility that not everyone is into the same shit as them. I don't care what language you want to mix. If there is already the word with the same meaning in, for example, English, don't mix an equivalent Japanese word instead. It makes for a disjointed, unnerving conversation.
Another thing these so-called weeaboos like to do is to insert those sounds in the end of a sentence that don't belong in the culture of the language: the 'ne' and 'desu' commonly(inb4thememe). It just doesn't belong in English language.
If you're not undergoing some kind of Japanese orientation program(for the purpose of studying, working, or why the hell not, living there), it's much more polite for Americans/British to speak English, French to speak French, Chinese to speak Chinese, etc... You get the idea, and I meant in as grammatically proper as possible.
I don't think they insert japanese words in an attempt to communicate, but more as a way to show their interests. Basically, if they're having fun, and you're infuriated by it, I think you're the one with a problem, not them. ~desu.
jamesownsall said:
PS: Where's the earlier block of text you were going to justify your opinions with, maid? Just curious.After rereading it, I thought it could be easily interpreted as a call for attention and self promotion, while adding little to the topic, so I erased it. For those who didn't read it before that, I basically stated why I think I am a weeaboo myself and am not ashamed of it.
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maid said:
I don't think they insert japanese words in an attempt to communicate, but more as a way to show their interests. Basically, if they're having fun, and you're infuriated by it, I think you're the one with a problem, not them. ~desu.
They can 'show' it once or twice, but it's only polite to hold that enthusiasm back when they can see that the person they're talking to is not amused.
In your own words, they don't want to communicate, but to 'show their interests'. If they still do it even when politely told to knock it off, that's no longer 'showing their interests'. That is rather what I meant by 'SHOVE their interests on me'.
Also, just as they have the right to exercise their 'interests', other people also have the right to express their discontent. It kinda makes you worse: suppressing people's 'disinterest' in you while you freely impose your own on them.
Oh well, though I'm sure you won't budge; just as much as we're seeing all the 'kyaaaa' and 'neeeee?' and 'desudesudesudesudesudesudesu', we will also be seeing a lot of 'weeaboos!' and 'wapanese!' and their derivatives, and continue to see those. Cause and effect. It's not something you, me, Misakite, or anyone can do anything about.
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jamesownsall said:
Also, just as they have the right to exercise their 'interests', other people also have the right to express their discontent. It kinda makes you worse: suppressing people's 'disinterest' in you while you freely impose your own on them.By all means you're right, and I couldn't agree more with you. It's just like those who go "don't hate gays, hate homophobics instead!". Please do not misinterpret me: I do not mean to ask you to change your opinion on a certain type of people, I just wish to understand it better.
Actually the origin of this thread comes from me hating weeaboos, yet not finding an actual reason myself for doing so. So I decided to ask for opinions.
Now, back on topic, if someone, as you suggest, will not stop their attempts at convincing you to (actually, what is it that they're trying to convince you of?) do whatever, it's a general problem with that person, and not necessarilly focused on anime, etc.
Most of the weeaboos I know are actually quite polite, and don't speak about that with those who are not either interested in the topic, or those who ask them to stop. Yet go around saying "kawaii!" and the like... The other kind of person is best just ignored, as they're only craving for attention.
edit: I'm sleepy, so I'm off for tonight. oyasumi <- heh!
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I don't see how just liking anime and not knowing much about Japan makes you a weeaboo.
I'm tired with all these labels.
If you like anime, you have get used to people calling you these things. If all you can do is talk about how shitty they all are then what the hell does that make you?
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maid said:
It was just a thought... I don't mean to compare a bunch of adolescents with some great linguists. But what's the problem with including words from other languages from time to time? Haven't you ever done that?
I have but generally only when i learned a new word or when i get REALLY REALLY stressed. Then the few japanese words i know start spilling out. Oh i did take classes just dropped out(too many kids taking japanese 1 who already knew most of the stuff very discouraging).
But generally no.
However i also don't see any real reason for the hate and neither do my parents actually. And while it is true that i like japan in general people still tend to thin i'm a weaboo. I don't even wanna go there as much but i do still like it's culture and food oh god japanese food is soooo good. But that's my tatse in food as well.
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Pacpon said:
I don't see how just liking anime and not knowing much about Japan makes you a weeaboo.I'm tired with all these labels.
If you like anime, you have get used to people calling you these things. If all you can do is talk about how shitty they all are then what the hell does that make you?
Weeaboos =/= Regular Anime fans
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Pacpon said:
I don't see how just liking anime and not knowing much about Japan makes you a weeaboo.I'm tired with all these labels.
If you like anime, you have get used to people calling you these things. If all you can do is talk about how shitty they all are then what the hell does that make you?
Agreed. I'll admit i get defensive about the term but that's mainky because of the fact that i'm passed that phase(for the most part at least) and it drudges up embarrasing memories. Not that i ever started adding kawaii and desu to my sentences or spouted random japanese without checking a dictionary or at LEAST making damn sure i knew what it meant. So i guess i was never as bad as most. But boy did i want to live in japan when i was younger. Though i never did think i'd really be accepted not fully at least.
Funny looking back i don't think i may ever have fit that description i was never self delusional enough to think everything would be peachey if i went to japan maybe justa little but better foir me(i'm fairly reserved by nature a quality that could get you farther there than here) but these days i think things like "nah i can make it here" or "what's the point i'm too outgoing when i actually get comfy". In short socially i have traits suited for both japan and america and sadly never the twain shall meet. Thus i'll stay where i am.
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UncommonOtaku said:
well,... I couldn't be a weeaboo.
my mom is japanese, & i got relatives in otaku land.
o_oYA you can be only half weeaboo ya mutt :P
Seriously tho like anything "titles" seem to lose their meaning.
Wapanese generally should imply that a Westerner is trying to be as Japanese as a true Japanese. This is like a Wigger, it just doesn't work. You can try to fit in and understand the basic cultural differences but accept the fact you are and will never be Japanese.
Basically it is the difference between walking into a room and everyone going, hey it's "bob" bit odd but a nice guy vs oh god it's the "#$@$#%^@#! wannabe again".
Weeaboo is in my mind almost the same as a Wapanese but just on the Otaku side. Trying to mimic Japanese Otaku and taking it too far. Aka trying too hard.
That being said pretty much everyone had a Weeaboo and Wapanese phase (as I am writing this the bloody phase (quality) change just happened on Nico :). Anyway most move on to be either Western Otaku, or just simple Anime/Manga fans.
Learning a little Japanese, liking Anime, liking Japan and wanting to visit to see what it, does not make you a Weeaboo or Wapanese. Going there expecting to dazzle the Japanese with your mad skills does.
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Pyrolight said:
Going there expecting to dazzle the Japanese with your mad skills does.
This made me LOL sometjimng fierce. Amazing i was never THAT bad. Bad yes but not THAT bad. Least i took some college.
Posted 5 years ago # -
Sorrior said:
Agreed. I'll admit i get defensive about the term but that's mainky because of the fact that i'm passed that phase(for the most part at least) and it drudges up embarrasing memories.
I think that's how a majority of anime fans feel. Me as well! But hey, at least we can admit to it right? :) *and have a good laugh at it too*
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Pyrolight said:
That being said pretty much everyone had a Weeaboo and Wapanese phase (as I am writing this the bloody phase (quality) change just happened on Nico :). Anyway most move on to be either Western Otaku, or just simple Anime/Manga fans.
I never understand this. Unless it only lasted about five seconds and I didn't even realize, I didn't go through a weeaboo phase.
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Pacpon said:
I think that's how a majority of anime fans feel. Me as well! But hey, at least we can admit to it right? :) *and have a good laugh at it too*
Yep it's just so embarassing thou as i've also said reading alot of this stuff makes me sound like i was normal. I mean the worst i got was wanting to move to japan and even then i still never though i'd be accepted fully i always understood the full implications of being a "gaijin" if you will.
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giascle said:
I never understand this. Unless it only lasted about five seconds and I didn't even realize, I didn't go through a weeaboo phase.
That's awesome, you will never have embarrassing memories you wish you could erase lmao. Well, maybe. I don't know you.
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