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dirtypair said:
Why can´t we draw the line by 14yo. Everything older isn´t a child anymore.
Yet emotionally still acts like one? Yeah, that'll fly in the science community...I say one year off...17 seems good.
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Neko_musume said:
Yet emotionally still acts like one? Yeah, that'll fly in the science community...I say one year off...17 seems good.
Let us meet in the midle and say 16 ok?
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Considering that first real thoughts of future occupation and plans are due at the age of 17, I guess that would be the adequate age...( at least in Middle-Europe )
With 17 you are forced by school&family to think about your future plans, and take responsibility for studying&holding onto those plans...However truly every person has it's own biological and mental clock...Some are ready for intimate&mature relationships at 12 while remaining a child on the looks, while others may develop physically however lack anykind of responsible&mature personality...
Anyways, since there are perfectly lolita-like 18+ AV actresses, I don't think 'child porn' is needed...Though the ban on 2D material&'imitation of child porn' should be reconsidered...
As said, pedophilia is a sexuality so ppl can't be 'made into pedophiles' unless they already had the tendency...
But taking away 2D material&CP imitation from REAL pedophiles would cause them become sexual predators ready to hunt down REAL children to built up stress&fulfill sexual urges...Posted 5 years ago # -
Neko_musume said:
Yet emotionally still acts like one? Yeah, that'll fly in the science community...I say one year off...17 seems good.
17,18, 20,heck even some old people are emotionally kids.
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the-envoy said:
17,18, 20,heck even some old people are emotionally kids.
In america the odds of someone gaining emotional matuity are damn low these days. We lack what was once known as character and hardship to build it by and large.
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How can legalizing child porn protect kids, when the creation of child porn requires hurting them?
Legalizing virtual or illustrated child porn would make more sense.
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nEveR.Fly_ said:
How can legalizing child porn protect kids, when the creation of child porn requires hurting them?Legalizing virtual or illustrated child porn would make more sense.
He says artifical. Though personally it has occured to me that if it has been made why waste a persons suffering and use what has been made and ban the creation. But that's just me.
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nEveR.Fly_ said:
How can legalizing child porn protect kids, when the creation of child porn requires hurting them?Legalizing virtual or illustrated child porn would make more sense.
Indeed it would. I'm not sure if they only ment to legalize virtual and illustrated ones but since they mention the law about child porn in Denmark and in Japan they are not mentioning the one that handles illustrations they are mentioning the ones that handles the real filmed/photographed deal so that makes me confused if they where talking about making the virtual/illustrated legal or if they are talking about making the real ones legal to own...
I guess they could justify it with: "It's already been filmed/photoed, the harm to the child is already done they might just as well use it" but doing that would most likely result in people creating new child porn since there now would be a slightly more legal market for it.
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And as I have stated before I do fully support the illustrated ones to be legal since I find it an act against the freedom of expression to be denied to make said illustrations as an artist.Posted 5 years ago # -
what pedophile is out molesting kids and doesn't have cp already? anyone that wants cp can easily get it, whether it's legal or not has no impact on children just consumers i would think.
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Sorrior said:
In america the odds of someone gaining emotional matuity are damn low these days. We lack what was once known as character and hardship to build it by and large.
We're the "lost generation", just like in Japan. It's in Europe and some other places too.
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the-envoy said:
We're the "lost generation", just like in Japan. It's in Europe and some other places too.
First world nations by my estimate. It seems the things that have created an easy life have also created an almost permanent immaturity for those who do not experience hardship. Hardship stimulates emotional and mental growth most people never experience it. I HAD to mature quickly what with losing it so easily as a kid i had to grow up quickly most didn't/don't.
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the-envoy said:
It just boils down to the same debate as whether legalizing porn/hookers will reduce rape; or whether legalizing weed will reduce drug-related crime.We can safely agree that the answer to the first one is simply "yes", and Portugal suggests that legalising drugs not only reduces crime, but actually reduces drug use.
Of course, some people will never listen. It seems that their motivation is punishing people for enjoying things they shouldn't enjoy, rather than increasing public/child safety.
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People think when you give the public what they want they won't go through crazy means to get it. I do know people personally that say drinking isn't fun anymore since they can legally do it. It's just the rush of thinking you'll be caught; the adrenaline, I guess that makes them happy. America did try to band alcohol because they thought it caused problems but that only ended up making things worse.
You can't do that with CP. And I doubt it's wise to make the virtual legal we already have problems with stupid children playing games over their age rating and thinking it's okay to re-enact that shet in life just because in the game world it's all right.
I'm mostly on the fence when it comes listening to scientists all due the fact that one moment they say something is good or worth trying and then one they do more test they try to retract their old opinion and claim it's bad.Posted 5 years ago # -
tychan said:
People think when you give the public what they want they won't go through crazy means to get it. I do know people personally that say drinking isn't fun anymore since they can legally do it. It's just the rush of thinking you'll be caught; the adrenaline, I guess that makes them happy. America did try to band alcohol because they thought it caused problems but that only ended up making things worse.
You can't do that with CP. And I doubt it's wise to make the virtual legal we already have problems with stupid children playing games over their age rating and thinking it's okay to re-enact that shet in life just because in the game world it's all right.
I'm mostly on the fence when it comes listening to scientists all due the fact that one moment they say something is good or worth trying and then one they do more test they try to retract their old opinion and claim it's bad.Hahah, that brings up an image of speakeasies in the 1920s, and the mafia families who operate them. Except the speakeasies sell lolis, instead of alcohol, and the crime families may have names like the Konata Family, the DFC Family etc.
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the-envoy said:
Hahah, that brings up an image of speakeasies in the 1920s, and the mafia families who operate them. Except the speakeasies sell lolis, instead of alcohol, and the crime families may have names like the Konata Family, the DFC Family etc.lol i can see this as a nice fic/movie
from the people that brought you the Godfather saga presents a tale of true hardships a tale of trust and betrayal this winter join the envoy, ty, and many others as they embark on a quest to shatter society's limits in... The Lolicaust
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In case nobody has any idea what I'm talking about:
One comment on the video:
"Prohibition...goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded."--Lincoln
Lesson learned: the government has no place in enforcing "morality" amongst its people. That is best left to family and/or the local "community" that one lives with. Thereby, if one chooses to indulge, one can simply choose to be with another community or by oneself. This is different with nations because of the whole blockade of immigration laws.
EDIT: modern day example.
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unsung said:
lol i can see this as a nice fic/movie
from the people that brought you the Godfather saga presents a tale of true hardships a tale of trust and betrayal this winter join the envoy, ty, and many others as they embark on a quest to shatter society's limits in... The Lolicaust
Lol. I wonder if this will become like the sankaku manga of old. Pete?
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Tingle sure knows how to find the gold.
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