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  1. PETALING JAYA: Police say the elderly man who shot dead a robber in Petaling Jaya on Tuesday had a right to defend himself.
    Selangor deputy Criminal Investigation Department chief Assistant Commissioner Khaw Kok Chin said the 72-year-old man had no choice but to act swiftly to save his family when they were threatened by the robber at their home.

    Khaw said this when he was asked if the man would be investigated for killing the 17-year-old robber.

    "Of course, he didn't wait for the robber to harm his family first. It was a case of self-defence," he said.

    R. Jeevan was shot dead in the man's house in Jalan SS8/8 about 9.40am after he and an accomplice climbed over the gate and broke into it.

    One of his relatives, B. Jayantheran, 47, said the owner of the house should have fired a warning shot to alert the robbers that he had a weapon.

    "It seems like he wanted to kill Jeevan. Why couldn't he have shot him in the leg?" he said.

    It was learnt that police had arrested one of the four suspects who fled the scene on Tuesday night.

    Petaling Jaya police chief Assistant Commissioner Arjunaidi Mohamed said the 21-year-old man was picked up in Puchong.

    Jeevan, who was armed with a parang, had threatened a Cambodian maid, two children, aged 8 and 10, and their 30-year-old father while his accomplice stood by the door with a knife. He ordered the maid to gather all the valuables in the house and pass it to his accomplice as he went upstairs to search the rooms.

    The elderly man, who is the children's grandfather, was upstairs and on hearing the commotion he took out his pump action shotgun. He fired two shots at Jeevan, hitting him in the ribs.

    The accomplice fled the scene with three other men who were waiting in a car outside the house.

    The house owner then called the police and Jeevan was taken to the University Malaya Medical Centre where he died shortly after admission.

    Meanwhile, Jayantheran said Jeevan's mother, Vanaja, had lodged a police report against the house owner in Puchong.

    He said Vanaja had received a call from the police at noon on Tuesday, informing her of her son's death and proceeded to the hospital to identify his body.

    Jayantheran said Jeevan, the eldest of four siblings, had been the sole breadwinner of the family since his father was sent to prison early this year.

    He said Jeevan had left school three years ago because he had a learning disability.

    "I believe he had mixed with bad company to get involved in all this."

    "He worked in workshops and had even dreamt about opening his own workshop one day," he said.

    Sauce

    What do you think? That guy was criticized by the family of the deceased for not issuing a warning shot in the first instance. Personally, I don't see what's wrong; if you want to commit a crime, you better be ready to take the heat.

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  2. The crook should have gave warning he was breaking in.

    And I hate it when people say "why couldn't he have shot him in the leg?" Trying to hit a moving limb, potentionally in the dark, under stress is very difficult. Aim for center mass, nothing fancy and to stop the threat as quickly as possible.

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  3. palmtop-tiger said:
    The crook should have gave warning he was breaking in.

    And I hate it when people say "why couldn't he have shot him in the leg?" Trying to hit a moving limb, potentionally in the dark, under stress is very difficult. Aim for center mass, nothing fancy and to stop the threat as quickly as possible.

    Its funny cause its so hypocritical, switch those nay-sayers with that guy and i'm willing to bet money they do the exact same thing. Those people just like to talk superior when trouble isn't at their doorstep.

    I don't blame the guy, he was well within his rights to shoot that fucker more.

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  4. dumb fuck got what he deserved. i have to agree with the "if you want to commit a crime, you better be ready to take the heat." comment.

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  5. Same here. I feel sorry for his family, but they should have raised him better. Still, doesn't sound like the best gene pool...

    Should have shot him in the sack though.
    Two birds, one two stones.

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  6. I don't know, if I were in his position I'd give a warning shot. I don't blame him though, it's understandable.

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  7. Unknown said:
    I don't know, if I were in his position I'd give a warning shot. I don't blame him though, it's understandable.

    I've been told that when you need to shoot for self defense, imagine a lawyer will be chasing after you for each shot fired. What if the warning shot hit one of his neighbors or one of the children? Warning shots are dangerous at best and lethal at worst. When you're shooting under pressure, all you have guiding you is muscle memory and your first reaction. These sort of situations are always filled with "what ifs?" after they've happened. Regardless I hope I can I shoot that well when I'm 72 years old.

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  8. Robber: I'm Going to the Cops
    Robber2: That Was Hax, YOU CANT DO THAT!!
    Me: WTF, I dont need to tell you my House is OUTFITTED WITH LAZEERSSS!!
    Cops: Whats going on here
    RObber this Guy is Cheating. He has a lazer defense system
    Cops: Gilly...?, Gilly?
    Me: What? =3

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  9. Vicious said:

    Robber2: That Was Hax, YOU CANT DO THAT!!

    I reckon it was more like -

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  10. He did issue a warning shot, it just doesn't work so well with a shotgun.

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  11. Cop was in the right. The family of the robber are just trying to get money out of it.

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  12. "It seems like he wanted to kill Jeevan. Why couldn't he have shot him in the leg?" he said.

    Shooting him in the leg with a shotgun would probably kill him too, since major are arteries there, also in that kind of situation it may be hard to aim for s spot that won't kill the person.

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  13. He could've loaded the shotgun with rock salts, I guess. But really, the robber is obviously to blame, and his family is full of criminals too.

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  14. brningpyre said:
    He could've loaded the shotgun with rock salts, I guess. But really, the robber is obviously to blame, and his family is full of criminals too.

    I would imagine that it would be pretty traumatic if my previously-normal brother suddenly was shot dead while committing a crime, something which you never suspect he would do.

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  15. deadbeat said:

    I would imagine that it would be pretty traumatic if my previously-normal brother suddenly was shot dead while committing a crime, something which you never suspect he would do.

    It would be his fault for being stupid enough to do it. No sympathy from me.

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  16. Peter Barton said:

    It would be his fault for being stupid enough to do it. No sympathy from me.

    I know, but if you put it as a personal point of view, you would be pretty upset that his killer didn't at least give him a warning shot. I mean, whats the odds of getting KILLED over a attempted robbery? injured, arrested, beaten up, yeah, but getting killed does not come to mind.

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  17. deadbeat said:

    I know, but if you put it as a personal point of view, you would be pretty upset that his killer didn't at least give him a warning shot. I mean, whats the odds of getting KILLED over a attempted robbery? injured, arrested, beaten up, yeah, but getting killed does not come to mind.

    If he was beaten up and left, the family would sue for assault. The owner of the property would lose. Would you rather get sued by the person who tried to rob you and end up paying for their medical bills, lawyer fees, and "distress" money?

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  18. I mean, if that guy was your brother.

    No doubt, if you were in the victim's shoes, shoot that guy without remorse

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  19. Like I always say "Shoot now!Ask questions later!"

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  20. deadbeat said:
    I mean, if that guy was your brother.

    No doubt, if you were in the victim's shoes, shoot that guy without remorse

    I understand that if family members do stupid shit and get killed then it's their own fault. I may be shocked and upset but I would understand that my brother was stupid and got what he had coming for him. People don't just rob one house.

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