The hot topic of the government potentially blocking access to illegal manga and anime sites has caused NicoNico Douga to hastily push out a survey to all its users, revealing that most individuals would be in favor of the government stamping out such pirate hot-spots even if it did require China-tier net controls.
89,154 individuals responded to the survey and the results were released the same day; the first question asked was “Regarding overseas sites that infringe upon copyright, are you in favor of blocking access to them, or against blocking access to them?” – 52.7% of voters agreed to blocking access, 19% did not agree and 28.2% didn’t know:
The 2nd question that voters were tasked with answering was “Do you agree or disagree in allowing the government to shut down such sites in an emergency whilst a legislative system is made at the same time?” – 47.8% were in favor of such an act, whilst 18.2% were not and 34% didn’t know:
“Do you think that internet providers should cooperate in blocking access to pirate sites?” was the final question, resulting in 55% agreeing, 15.3% disagreeing and 29.7% being unsure:
Although asking the Japanese equivalent of YouTubers some leading questions in an impromptu online poll is hardly a credible indicator of public opinion, it does seem most Japanese officials are only too ready to believe publishing industry claims that every download is a lost sale.
If they decided to block those sites, they may potentially lose lots of sales of manga/anime overseas. What they’re doing is more than just stupid. It is COLOSSAL STUPID.
Generally I don’t usually buy anime or manga but I do spend a lot on merchandise of series that I like. If I couldn’t readily access the anime then I’d probably not buy the merch. I think if you do illegally download anime/manga then you should spend some money supporting the series you like either through official merch or the actual anime/manga.
90% of advertising in the west for manga and anime is due to not-so-legal sites, if all sites are blocked it will be even harder for j-media to make a hit overseas.
Same here. I do buy merchandise from time to time for the series that I like. Usually I buy figures, music CDs, wall scrolls, artworks book, keychain, etc.
The anime and manga that sell in my country are heavily censored, in manga with BIG sound effect some time almost the whole page, in anime with mosaic, even the most tame things like panty shots or swimsuits but apparently somehow it’s OK for the part where people to killing each other. Also translation is pretty bad compared with fansubs and scanlation. Japan BDs for one series are also pretty expensive and don’t have eng sub. That’s why I don’t buy it either.
Dude relax, the sites would only be blocked in japan anyways. It would have nearly zero impact
Also, they aired them on TV anyway. Most of the figures, plushes and other craps I have was due to my consumption of so-called pirate anime lol. Nowadays, I use Crunchyroll. My friends have boxes of anime related Figures and toys as higher then their wall if you stack em up. How much does one season of anime profit them per viewer? How much do 10 Figures or toy merch profit them per consumer? You do the math. In the US, we have Crunchyroll. In other parts of the world? The illegal download is the only way for anyone to watch anime. They black the access to anime for many people, their anime culture will shrink exponentially. One can find many shops even in Saudi Arabia dedicate in selling Anime merchs. How do you think the Saudis know so much about anime and come to love them? Besides, the traditional way of making money base on DVD or blu ray won’t generate much profit even if the pirate download doesn’t exist. The profit margin for merchs are higher than a box of blu ray disc. Also, you can sell a figure of an anime character in a different pose, settings etc. You can only sell an episode (or multiple episodes) in a disc once. People are not going to buy the same episodes again.
Is the merchandise in those Saudi shops actually legitimate?
No offense but these are the same kinds of folk who wonder why their population is in decline, do we really have to reason with this idiocy? its inherited cleary throughout the bigwigs of the amazing sunshine behind my rear land, gotta love em spewing their own demise of entertainment & international methods of economic gain.
I could explain the economic gain and the product promotion expenses that get cut down by this method of consumerism whereas the product is promoted to its viewer at the expense of zero by its producers as they aren’t the ones who are sharing content through the internet at the cost of these “pirates” own internet bills and what not which leads to viewers who may be possible consumers who later end up buying the show’s related other products like figurines/posters and whatnot.. but I’m sure anyone with an adequate common sense would be able to understand it…
I don’t think they can do anything about oversea people accessing those sites
The same kind of example I can tell is about the 2 first generations of PlayStation. They are worldwide champions of sales, because of the so-loathed “piracy”. The same effect.
Anime production’s overseas sales are so small, they couldnt care less.
because they dont give a f♥♥k about oversea people. we dont have easy way to buy them, or we get a heavy censored version, or s♥♥t quality (mangas in my country look like toilet paper) if we could get nice original merchadise without the problkems of custom and actually having more language on BD we would biy them
Oh please, that kind of garbage logic is exactly what a pirate would say. Support for fucking artists!! If you weren’t going to buy the media in the first place then you don’t deserve to enjoy it at all you plebe.
Says the pleb who’s parents pay for everything they own.
Wrong. Stop projecting.
There is a reason why nobody talked about certain amazon/netflix-exclusive shows.
People simply couldn’t watch them.
It is common knowledge that exclusivity deals (and licensing in general) has been fucking large parts of the community for years, especially in places that aren’t America and that aren’t getting almost every single show.
There is also the fact that piracy is the sole reason why anime became popular outside of Japan in the first place. Do you seriously think all those kids and teens were able to afford those overpriced tapes and DVDs? Get fucking real, mate.
I just watched them on saturday morning cartoons like a real person… Before some soccer mom got rid of saturday morning cartoons on regular tv… Cunts….
Pirates didn’t get Voltron, Robotech, Akira, GitS, DBZ, Sailor Moon, Pokémon, Yu-Gi-Oh, Cowboy Bebop, Trigun, Inuyasha, etc. in to US TV broadcasts and theaters back in the 80s and 90s. Was piracy a factor? Sure, but it’s pretty arrogant and inaccurate to say that it was “the sole reason.”
The ONLY reason japanese publishers are finally embracing digital manga is because of piracy. You stupid c♥♥t.
“The ONLY reason japanese publishers are finally embracing digital manga is because of piracy.”
Lol! Are you fuckingly retarded? Spare us your bullshit, ok?
‘Adults are talking’
Talking s♥♥t? Pretty much. Those digital manga / netflix profits are close to 0, compaed to BDs, books and other merch. Stfu, ‘adult’. You are only look stupid.
“Lol! Are you fuckingly retarded? Spare us your bullshit, ok?”
The only retard here is you kid, now go back to watching Naruto. Adults are talking.
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No U!
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And how do you want to suport an artist you dont even know.
Would it not be for pirating anime nobody in the west would know about 90% of anime.
There would be no crunchyroll or even sankakucomplex without pirating anime.
The people that know about anime don’t matter if they don’t actually pay.
People will pay for stuff if they have money, and if it isn’t a pain to do so. But they also have to know about it first. Free samples/demos are good, but word of mouth also helps a lot. Even pirates contribute towards promoting stuff, and making it accessible to people who can’t access it otherwise, for all sorts of reasons that you can’t imagine.
Like in the case of “Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu” in 2009. People talking about it on internet, made many videos on Youtube and NND. Its became very well know series in very short time all around the world. Director or someone even come out and said thanks to the internet that the series is very well receive and sell very well. Its also got many awards, and got many spin-offs.
And what a nightmare it was for a lot of the characters involved in that series. Sorry, I love almost all the cast, however I just don’t like a certain main character in that series.
I use online manga readers to figure out which manga artists are WORTH supporting. I’ve bought over 10,000 dollars worth of manga already, and I plan to buy more, but I wouldn’t know WHAT to buy if I didn’t have online readers. I can’t afford to buy the first couple volumes of every single series that ever comes out to try and figure out if it’s worth reading.
You anecdote is insignifact.
i bet you anti piracy people listen to illegal music on youtube all the fucking time, pretty much only vevo channels, channels like monstercat and going quantum, channels uploading NCS is legal, or bands/artists that upload their own work like gorillaz, everything else is not, like compilations and mixes or people uploading songs and ep’s from itunes.
I officially pirated Kyoukai Senjou no Horizon, because it was great. I then worked hard to find a way to buy the books that I can’t fucking read because I loved the show. I then bought the DVDs when I could; still have one or two left.
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You should drop by 4chan`s /jp/, if you already don`t. We have dem kawakamifag threads there.
In 2012 when Megaupload got shutdown. I think people already learned about the whole piracy argument already.
It’s impossible to win against internet the more you fight the more you lose. If people don’t know about anime then they won’t care about it and they won’t buy anything relate to it. If they do know anime by pirate it company wouldn’t lose any money over it but those people now could be potential customers they might buy something now or in the future.
And the effect of Megaupload went even further.
Just so them fcker knows. Because you shut down and effectively stole the servers that have my shat of digital copies from legal collections, and my dojin collections and creations, all effectively lost, so I and others like me help made that shat with Trump and TPP pull out happen.
As for the fight over internet, it ain’t over yet. They effectly murdered a major Linux leader in the US as a warning to get other leading IT nerds and geeks to fall in line. And look at what is happening with the fight and the cover story over the control of the Internet.
I would gladly not use pirate sites if the damn apps i already have would have all the anime i like and in a timely fashion.
Funimation picks and choses what it dubs or posts up at all. Amazon prime is terrible with it. Netflix anime selection is pretty sorry. And crunchyroll. Dont get me started.
Further more my reading is somewhat slow so i have to watch anime in Dub format.
For better or worse. None of these companies provide all the anime even dubbed let alone the ones that dont even get to dub status at all.
And before you attempt to attack me like oh i probably cant afford it, Well the right company with thier anime in order that has what i want comes along id pay over 100 a year.
According to your logic buying bootlegs for a dollar is just fine.
Bootlegs isn’t the same as piracy. The selling of bootlegs is making money off something you don’t own. Anime piracy is watching something for free but supporting in other ways with exposure to people that can buy it now and eventually buying the item from the creators. As well as official merchandise. Without exposure there wouldn’t be extra income for the creators. You can’t buy or support a company if you don’t know about it.
Anime piracy these days mainly consists of bootleg streaming, i.e. sites earning ad revenue from content they don’t own. Lots of viewers watch anime for free on those sites, but very few actually buy anything. They’re especially not importing $90 figurines for the many many shows that don’t have legitimate merchandise available outside Japan.
I paid crunchyroll, hidive, netflix, and amazon, and many times I still need to download animes…
How dare you have more fun than authorized by the content mafia!
That`s because you`re an idiot. Literally giving shekels to the jew as he shits on you.
you nazi racist pig
To combat piracy you need to make a better service for them to win their favor. Something simple, easy, high quality and affordable, something like Netflix for example. Shutting down their websites is like fighting cockroaches, they will quickly comeback.
Uh.. except Netflix sucks balls and is a very bad example.
I bet your ass that 2 times out of 3 you will NOT find a movie you’re searching for in Netflix. Instead of adding to their shitty library ,they keep removing and adding constantly.
the content is lacking , and overrated as f♥♥k as a whole
Nothing they can do about adding and removing content; they have to license content and they cannot afford to indefinitely license every title, while adding more content to their service. Blame Sony, Disney, Fox, etc for being massive jews.
Name any other streaming site that put money in anime….
Not streaming them but literally put money in developing them…
I agree with you on the adding and removing bullshit. But we cant ignore the other side.
Is too soon to decide if Netflix investing in animes is a positive thing.
Best case scenario: Netflix enters with the money in exchange for streaming rights. We see an increase in quality and the rest stays the same.
Worst case scenario: Animes starts to cater to West, some genres die, animes start to follow the cartoon’s path, a slow and painful death.
Only cartoon was mostly shat in the first place, since the beginning. Only decent ones for adults this decade or two have been Archer. The rest are for kids like mlp, ppg, etc.
It probably won’t turn out in the worst case scenario. Netflix funds anime, and the only turd that’s been shat out between the West and DEEN is Neo Tokyo. Other than that, the only major issue is that the usual problems of anime production still persist, even though there’s no reason for them to. The schedules are still insane, with some people even worse.
90% of its fanbase will always be Japan, then China, then the rest of Asia. Even Netflix will never make it to only pander to USA; it simply won’t work. If they make s♥♥t like a second-rate Space Dandy, it’s guaranteed to flop. They don’t make nearly enough money to f♥♥k with the industry on a grand scale, nor would they be willing to spend that much in the first place. Besides, BD sales surpass streaming sales every time.
Ehh. f♥♥k Netflix for delaying new season anime for months.
for anime right now atleast funimation seems to be the best. not saying alot but it is going in the right direction making weekly updates to each popular show.
lol, good fucking luck. Maybe stop charging $80 for a 2-episode BD volume.
I remember when CR first launched, I thought, finally I can support the things I like.
Then half the shows weren’t even available in my country. I vowed to never pay for media ever again.
There’s plenty of manga on CR I’d gladly pay them to read — but I refuse to infect my computer with Flash.
Oh that too. Thanks for reminding me another reason why I stopped. Flash slowed shat down just like every one of them social media with junk spyware, then the whole internet slowed down again after most people got rid of flash and got various adblock, however now even firefox does the same while promising to not spy on us. Who knows, it is like how Google started out.
Now the fucks are censoring as well. Why bother?