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Top begging-as-a-service provider Patreon has launched a massive crackdown on creators producing wrongthink art, protecting the rights and safety of fictional children by purging all material deemed “child exploitation” (lolicon) along with “glorification of sexual violence” and threatening to dob any creators of such in to the authorities for good measure.

These attacks on adult content creators were actually part of a bigger overhaul for Patreon’s community guidelines – the previous guidelines in regards to adult content:

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The new guidelines are almost Twitter-tier in their craven and arbitrary promotion of the values of those-who-must-not-be-named, even down to the “because Game of Thrones” logic:

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Naturally many have been pointing out the hypocrisy of Patreon’s mass suspensions despite the new guidelines saying that the content presented by those accounts are “allowed”.

Colin Sullivan, the “head of legal” at Patreon, further clarified the reason why these changes were made:

“As part of updating the Community Guidelines, we’re taking a clearer stance on some fringe areas of Adult Content.

Over the past few months, there’s been a lot of discussion among our Trust and Safety team about how we can better articulate how we evaluate certain areas of content.

It became evident that we needed to outline a clearer stance on some fringe adult content.

With today’s update, we’re also being more clear about specific categories of fictional erotic content that Patreon cannot be used to support (including incest, bestiality, sexual depiction of minors, and suggestive sexual violence).

We want to be clear that this stronger stance on fringe content has surfaced a small number of creators that need to update their pages. And that’s where the next update on our Trust and Safety commitments comes in.

We have implemented a better process for warning and guiding affected creators and content.

We think it’s important for all creators to have a second chance, so a lot of these updates have been focused on appeal and reinstatement.

In addition, all communications with creators include a chance for appeal. Some key parts of this update include:

Whenever possible, we’ll give creators a chance to change their Patreon page to bring the content back within the Community Guidelines.

Aside from blatant violations of Community Guidelines (such as hosting terrorist content, doxing, or very clear hate speech), removing a Patreon page completely is a last resort after we’ve offered a chance to update the content.

Creators will receive one-on-one guidance from a Trust and Safety Representative regarding the changes they need to make to reinstate their page.

While creators are making changes, their Patreon page will be suspended but not deleted.

Pledges will be paused and patrons will not be charged again until the page is reinstated.”

These new changes were accompanied by suspensions of the accounts of various big-name ero-animators, such as Mantis-X, LewdLab, PestilenceSFM and noname55 to name a few – though oddly enough, others were seemingly unaffected such as Studio Fow and Zone.

An example of some of the messages being sent out to creators:

Patreon-Adult-Content-Creators-Message

In order for these ero-animators to be within Patreon’s new tyrannical guidelines, alterations such as these have been made (along with the removal of direct links to adult content and words such as “loli” or “daughter”):

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This has made some suspect that it is only the Patreon accounts themselves that need to be voided of any and all “offensive content” (as opposed to the games or ero-animations directly – although linking to them is apparently verboten all the same).

As usual, it is the hapless contributors of content to such narrative-enforcing platforms who must offer themselves up as guinea pigs to discover what facile rubric will appease the demands of their masters for the time being.


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    Avatar of LoliVampLover
    Comment by LoliVampLover
    09:53 22/10/2017 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Banning someone from a technically privately run website is one thing, but what law enforcement? Assuming that it is fiction-only and in the US, this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashcroft_v._Free_Speech_Coalition basically prevents any legal action. The only times people in the US have been found guilty of lolicon was when the real thing was involved or when it was passed off as the real thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Williams_(2008) As for artistic merit, is art not subjective?

    Avatar of A Mischievous Faerie.
    11:11 22/10/2017 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    They have zero grounds to get law enforcement involved and will probably get sued if they do that.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:27 22/10/2017 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    I welcome it. I suspect, too, that the owner of patreon is a child molester. Think about it: everyone who has ever come out publicly on a strong stance against rape, child exploitation, substance abuse, domestic violence, incest, pornography, adultery, abortion, and/or homosexuality have been later found to be guilty of what they railed against. Judges, senators, website owners like over at NeoGaf...

    Avatar of Chen-04
    Comment by Chen-04
    18:25 22/10/2017 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    It's because they need to offset their own depravity in their mind somehow. It's also why people that are secretly gay call others gay and faggot all the time.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:08 22/10/2017 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Thief always shout the louder "catch the thief!"

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:38 22/10/2017 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    I am guilty of liking adult fictional anime characters who looks like they are 17 and not human, sometimes in SD-art form, so in the eyes of fake rightards and leftards, I should be jailed or imprisoned for different reasons.

    And yet shat powerful fucker on both sides are guilty of being into real world shat, and that is a okay.

    Avatar of MayoiNeko
    Comment by MayoiNeko
    20:25 22/10/2017 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    He did bring up examples, and everyone who doesn't live under a rock knows about them. Don't blame him for your ignorance.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:04 23/10/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    I have a teacher and incest fetish.
    Feels good man.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:12 23/10/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    @14:04

    You've had too much to think, pick up that can.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:00 23/10/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    @11:27
    That was my first thought as well. Glad other people are aware of their hypocritical bullshit.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:49 27/10/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    >moralfags are all secretly rapists
    >pornfags are all actually involuntary celibates with no sex lives outside of doujinshi

    holy shit, everything's clear now

    Comment by Anonymous

    phew good thing you provided a trustworthy source for such a bold, offending and generalizing statement otherwise logic would've let me to believe that that's a comment composed of blatant falsehood by an overcompensating retard

    ...

    oh

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:44 22/10/2017 # ! Good (+0.7)

    Idk, they gonna blame Trump smh.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:47 23/10/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    Way to pander to Sancon directly who is blatantly alt-right.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:01 23/10/2017 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    You mean up-down. Sancon is up-down. Definitely not sideways.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:32 22/10/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    With the shat fake tradcon religious zealots rightards, sure we can.

    But sure you are only gonna blame the shat fake sjw leftards.

    Do you want your dubs too? or do you even anime? This issue have been a part of attack by both sides for at least a decade, but you are only gonna call out the fucktard you did not vote for, or maybe even pretend that you anime.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:29 22/10/2017 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    It's a (((private company))) goy, they can do anything they want

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:31 22/10/2017 # ! Drivel (-0.8)

    DUR, IT WAS ZE JEEEEWS

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:08 23/10/2017 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    >implying jews don't ruin everything

    have fun living in debt, stupid

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:01 23/10/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    Why do people even say that? I think they get more hate than the nig-nogs sometimes.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:53 23/10/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    They almost crushed that one dude in the UK for his Onahole orders. I kind of laughed inside because customs touched all his toys first. I would have just trashed that order.

    https://blog.onahole.eu/

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:03 23/10/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    Laced with secret SIS/MI6 infection. Sorry bro.

    Comment by Anonymous
    Comment by Anonymous
    20:00 22/10/2017 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    There always loop holes to this

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:09 23/10/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    I heard it's Japan only.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:33 24/10/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yeah, but it's unused and more for it's few "high profile users" like shiwasu no okina to draw shitty commissions to. Sadpanda some of the garbage he's made for it, shitty line art sketches that he charged people like a 100+ bucks for, lol..

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:34 23/10/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    I thought that was the obvious answer. If other sites want to bend over for SJWs and the (((((like))))), simply have the site where they have no power.

    Comment by Anonymous
    Comment by Anonymous
    13:08 22/10/2017 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Glad to see that the Patreon owners are unable to mentally process the difference between what is actually real, and what is fictional, made up, not real. Drawings and pixels of some cute little girl, grown up woman, grown up man, etc. is NOT REAL. They have no soul. That have as much realism to them as do polygons and models within your video games. By their same argument of treating this as a depiction of a living and breathing entity, they are subscribing to the same logic that anyone here creating a depiction of a model of an officer, a drawing, or pixelation of said officer being killed in some way or form is the same as committing murder or manslaughter on an officer.
    It's not real. It will never be real. The most you have to get is doing the secluded lone monk Tulpa stuff, and even that is just hypnotic gestures to allow your mind to hallucinate the existence of something that doesn't actually exist. It is that kind of mental derangement that can prove worrisome and concerning to their judgement and mental health. Do these same moderators/owners of patreon also believe that burning a paper effigie of someone they don't like is the equivalent of actually doing harm to those they don't like?

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:12 22/10/2017 # ! Good (+0.5)

    You want to see something actually sickening? Look in western hollywood and television and look how they're encouraging ACTUAL LIVING BREATHING CHILDREN to dress, dance, and behave. You want to tackle an actual issue going on? Tackle the sexualization of children in the west through television entertainment where ACTUAL LIVING CHILDREN ARE VICTIM.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:18 22/10/2017 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    this moron doesn't get it. so you are saying that it's better to make child porno again instead of using animations? i mean those anime characters doesn't even have any actual age the close age you can give them is the day were drawn.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:20 23/10/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yeah there are a lot of adults actually portraying underage characters in sexual situations in hollywood- do we ever hear about people getting pissed off about that? Pfft. No.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:42 22/10/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    But but but think of the fictional children and the dark children under dark people's care, just never children under our care.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Children are humans as well, you know. They aren't some mysterious objects who can't think, feel, or dream. This also means one child might want to do one thing, another would want to do the opposite. Just like adults. There are no victims outside of victims of actual criminal actions or sheer bad parenting.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:42 22/10/2017 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Jesus Christ, stop rambling! Nothing happened.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:25 23/10/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    @00:25 23/10/2017 I was replying to that person who implied that the official Hollywood is sexually exploiting children. I have yet to see a single big Hollywood movie that would have done that. Or a big TV series. Sure, there are hundreds of thousands if not millions of people working for Hollywood productions, so of course there are going to be criminal scumbags among them, but those are the crimes of individuals, not the official production machinery.

    That's just desperate SJW bullshittery, which seems to find a market here as well, surprisingly enough.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:27 22/10/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    Here I get downvoted by no life kings who have never met a child in their life and have forgotten what it was being a child themselves. They think children should be kept locked in a room until they turn 18. God forbid a child should be taught to play piano or sing and have them perform before an audience in an event or competition. It's an outrage if there are child actors in a movie! Movies should be like action games where only adults exist. Nobody needs a family in a movie, to depict normal life. A comedy with children in the main roles? The producer and director should jailed for 20 years! Cursed Hollywood!

    It doesn't matter if the child themselves likes performing and has ambitions, be it music or acting, it only matters that SJWs without children of their own know what's best for everybody, their children, and their cats and dogs.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:25 23/10/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    What does playing the piano or singing have to do with anything? If I see lolis "singing" in a music video wearing very little clothing and often getting banged, what does that have to do with the talents and dreams of real people?

    The "music video" is simply showing a young looking girl doing sexual things with music playing. Imagine if it was a very realistic looking young girl instead of an anime one. Each step closer to realistic is closer to jail. And that arbitrary line is drawn by society.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:08 23/10/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    They don't like regular people creating fictional pr0n that competes with their worldwide sex trafficking.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:07 22/10/2017 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    it's only a matter of time before they decide more categories of pornography are too degenerate for them

    Avatar of Chen-04
    Comment by Chen-04
    18:29 22/10/2017 # ! Good (+0.7)

    Like heterosexuality.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:40 22/10/2017 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    I am surprised people have put up with Patreon this long. Alternatives like Hatreon exist for this reason.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:43 23/10/2017 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Hatreon would be useful if it wasn't run by a bunch of political retards. They say they have "free speech", but it's really whatever content they find acceptable. It's no better then using patreon sadly

    Comment by Anonymous

    Calling your service Hatreon is basically asking everyone not to use it...

    Avatar of A Mischievous Faerie.
    11:42 22/10/2017 # ! Good (+0.7)

    You must be new to the internet.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:15 22/10/2017 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    savage comeback! i like that!! ahahahahahaha!!

    Avatar of A Mischievous Faerie.
    00:37 23/10/2017 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Old as your parents than you must be four or something and really should not be visiting sites like this.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:15 23/10/2017 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    They have a generation that grew up with only cell phones so you never know.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Savage comeback? It's as old as my parents.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:58 23/10/2017 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    People don't like hats?

    Comment by Anonymous

    Anyone who uses Hatreon is stupid.

    You're just one good hack away from having your name plastered all over the internet. Good luck with your plausible deniability joining a site with the name "Hatreon".

    You want to be the next Peter Cvjetanovic, go right ahead.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:18 23/10/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    Why would you display your real identity anyway? Is it required by Hatreon? If not, then I don't see how this is stupid if one of the content creator pseudonyms will be associated with *insert_the_worst_thing_you_can_imagine*. Assuming that that content creator is not stupid enough to link his real identity with that pseudonym on some social network.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:35 23/10/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yes, they have to know who you are to pay you. But that does not mean that you have to publish that information to 3rd parties. It's between you and them, and 3rd parties should only see your pseudonym. I assume that they will not dox their clients, because it is bad for their business if word gets out that they dox their clients.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:18 23/10/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    Eh, they have to take the money from somewhere. Unless you are a super legit secret agent, your bank account or credit card info can easily be traced back to you.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:56 23/10/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    You don't NEED plausible deniability. Lolicon is LEGAL. fictional depictions of rape are LEGAL.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:29 23/10/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    Your name is already plastered on the internet :)

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:59 23/10/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yeah. Decent film.








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