Frame Arms Girl “Removed Its CG OP”

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Watchers of tiny fighter anime Frame Arms Girl have discovered that the series has ditched its original 3D CG opening, instead using traditional 2D animation to appease the hordes of complaining otaku – and with the actual episode bound to be neglected as a result due to all the commotion.

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Omake:

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    Comment by Anonymous
    02:46 25/05/2017 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Now do it to Berserk!!!

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:43 26/05/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    Nah how about just fucking remake it from the ground up instead.... and with an actual competent team this time xD

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:11 25/05/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    3D Generated imaging technology is getting there, but it's still far away from hitting the mark. 2D is loads better than 3D at this point in time and I doubt that even if 3D does catch up that it'll unseat 2D as the favorite medium for anime.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:00 25/05/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    Why does the title for this article have quotation marks?
    "Frame Arms Girl Removes CG OP" is a perfectly valid statement.

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    Comment by Tigre de Poche
    01:17 25/05/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    Technology itself is not the problem; it is the way technology is used and integrated.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:47 25/05/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    WTF? They changed the opening of the way the girls look but left the girls exactly the same.. No longer even matches. That is so stupid. And Gourai rear panty shot what the hell is that black thing? Were they out to ruin the BD?

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:21 25/05/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    I hope japan doesn't turn into west.

    Where all freaking cartoons are 3D.

    I don't just say this as a greasy internet fapper. 2D cartoons > 3D cartoons any day.

    Only time something should be 3D is if it's SFM porn.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:41 25/05/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    This may be an unpopular opinion but I think 3D animated anime can actually look good, but it has to be consistent and the 3D models have to be high quality... at least as expressive as their 2D counterparts.

    The expressivity of the models was definitely an issue in the old OP from these screenshots and clips.

    The issue with most anime that includes 3DCG is that it's only done for specific scenes, which is hella jarring for the viewer, and the models they use are pretty shitty. Like, if they barely compare to 3D models created by fans, then it's not good.

    An example of an anime that didn't look bad from it's 3DCG would probably be Expelled from Paradise.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:50 25/05/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    the issue with 3dcg is that it does not blend in with anything else.

    it ALWAYS looks out of place and completely worse than the drawn stuff.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:01 25/05/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    Whoever made the first few gifs used some awful filters. Sisters look like they have rashes all over their body.

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    Comment by Shimazaki
    14:34 25/05/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    Somenoe needs to ask Arc System Works how to get CGI anime done right!

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:20 25/05/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    so much better i wonder will they be changing it all to 2D with the BD's

    am hoping so

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:53 24/05/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well, as long as they learned their lesson.

    In anime the best use for 3D is subtle special effects, like they do with the missiles in gundam. Small and distant objects are ok, foreground objects should never be in 3D because these studios are either incapable of creating good 3D or simply can't budget it. Stop trying.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:54 24/05/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    They're supposed to be professionals at this shit, playing with 3D CG so ugly a noob hobbyist could do better just ain't right man.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:27 25/05/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    All 3D CG is garbage, hobbyist or otherwise. People implying otherwise make no sense to me.

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    Comment by Silver Horse
    02:41 25/05/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well, it's mutual here, people like you, claiming that everything is bad by default regardless of quality and style, make no sense to me too.

    There are both really good (and damn expensive) examples, like Tales of Zestiria and Seikai Suru Kado (which would be nearly impossible to animate without 3DCG), and really shitty ones, like almost everything from $@#$%@# 8-bit lately. 3DCG has its own problems, and the main problem with its quality being directly proportional to the budget, and there are no roundabout ways to improve it, like in 2D with cheaper static shots and avoidable facial animation. But it doesn't mean there is no good 3DCG because of it.

    And the other main problem is how well it merges with 2D animation (IMHO the best way to deal with it visually is to overlap 3D with 2D, which is really tricky to make look good) and how the styles in 3D and 2D suit each other. The last one is really good here, with the status quo "everything big is drawn, everything small is modeled", and with this OP altering there are two alternate issues: 1) the animation becomes really vivid and expressive, but expensive, 2) status quo is broken and there is a mess with all 3D and 2D shots mixed, which IS bad in itself.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:38 25/05/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    I dunno man, Expelled from Paradise was a pretty damn good CG movie, visually.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:57 24/05/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    3D can be done really well, but they made some expressionless dolls

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:24 24/05/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    Depicting the girls with 2D animation would require them to scale back the amount of animation significantly. Their armor is very complex. And something like Girls und Panzer would be effectively impossible without 3D tanks. 3D has its uses even in the foreground.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:50 24/05/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    Nothing is impossible to animate in 2D if you're talented enough.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:00 25/05/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    This is more about time/money constraints than pure talent. This isn't a multi million dollar show with years of time to properly animate every frame.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:31 24/05/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    Why not the whole show in 2D?

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    Comment by Anonymous
    05:24 25/05/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    They will probably be doing that with the BD releases.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:14 24/05/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    No CG is actually an improvement, personally I hate CG in anime, I regretfully didn't watch some really good anime because of CG.

    I Tolerated it in Frame Arms but without it it's a lot better.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:54 24/05/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    for me I love the new op bcoz it better than the original one ex: Baselard scene in the op I love the details on how her hair got blown by the wind n you can see the new op is much more better than the CG one

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:20 24/05/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    the hair details and the actually expressive face expressions harden my glue stick.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:40 24/05/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    yeah that's why 2D is the best

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:58 24/05/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    let's be honest. if they actually gave the 3D characters good hair physics, facial animations and secondary animations it would look great. as it is, it's just some cheap plastic expressionless dolls.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:37 25/05/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    Ironically I think that was what they were going for.. cuz.. you know... figmas and all..

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:21 24/05/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    Unfortunately, facial animations and hair are the most difficult things to do in 3D and probably infeasible for a weekly anime production unless there's some major breakthrough in animation software.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:41 24/05/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    Who do they think they are, Pixar? Just stick to 2D until you learn how to 3D.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:41 25/05/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    Wow, really? Pixar? What, Stage6 isn't even good for you or something? Jesus fuck..

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:44 25/05/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    I don't even know what Stage6 is.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:34 25/05/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    Goes to show how much you know about studios dealing in 3D




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