Pokemon X Y & Z “Satoshi Loses Again!?”


The immensely adored Pokemon series has somehow infuriated fans with the latest fateful episode of Pokemon X Y & Z, which featured the much-loved Satoshi losing another league match (his 7th one after 900+ episodes) and seemingly proving that the show’s profits are more important than character growth.

The PV for next week’s episode, which has been bombarded with an unbelievable amount of dislikes:

Reactions from fans have been depressing to say the least:





The actual episode:





















































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    Comment by Anonymous
    05:44 21/08/2016 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Looks like Ash is Team Mystic. He's not gonna catch'em all, nor be the very best. Only he cares is to hatch two eggs just happening to always stick around his legs. No matter how far he goes, they never hatch.

    "Gonna hatch'em all! Pokemon."

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    Comment by Falos
    11:20 21/08/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    Satoshi is 110% team Instinct. If anything, Instinct is built around HIM, around the tropes of a shonen full of heart and guts and willpower and determination and all that noise.

    He trusts his pokemon to do their best and that they'll perform because of loyalty and the power of friendship and shit that the show, the entire genre themes. If he encounters challenges or obstacles, his "strategy" is grit and tryharder and BELIEVEINYOURSELF.

    Again, he's Instinct made flesh, if he wasn't the template to begin with.

    On topic: The series won't jeopardize itself. It'll end when sales droop. Which can be caused by writing going dry. It's no different than keeping TLR's Rito carefully locked as a "useless" harem protag.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:00 21/08/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    I like how you guys state all that like it's a matter of fact... when the characteristics of each team are all fan-made.

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    Comment by Falos
    13:16 22/08/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    The leaders' personalities are almost pure fanon, but they did give us some thin skeletons for team philosophies. Niantic's official descriptions say Mystic is analytical and Instinct is intuitive.

    If you're somehow unfamiliar with generic shonen protags, the anime's 51st episode was about a set of written/practical tests that would award immediate league qualification. Ash enters.

    9 minutes of episode in, he gets worst-in-class for the written portion. Eng script: "Pokemon isn't about tests, it's about battles!"

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:41 11/09/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    ...except, an argument can be made for Ash being Team Valor, too. He's aggressive, brash, and fiercely competitive, always wanting to prove himself in battle, to overcome the obstacles before him. If you remember him from the beginning, he was only ever concerned about winning, and making his Pokemon stronger at any cost. He quickly learned with Pikachu that he has to cooperate with his Pokemon to earn their respect, but that lesson didn't apply to the rest of his Pokemon until a fair bit later into the first season (with Charizard in particular). He deeply cared for his Pokemon, yes, but he thought of them as instruments to be used for conquering challenges. Like the first time he used a Tauros in battle; he had no personal connection whatsoever with it (he had 30 of them), but recognized the physical power Tauros held, using one in the Orange League battles without any prior intensive training or relationship-building beforehand.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:14 22/08/2016 # ! Neutral (0)


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    Comment by Falos
    13:17 22/08/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    >he's mystic
    >no he's instinct
    if that's still too fast for you ask someone to draw it

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    Comment by Mark
    10:48 21/08/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    Instinct does eggs. Mystic is evolution, and we all know he has trouble doing that.

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    Comment by knuclear200x
    04:51 21/08/2016 # ! Good (+0.4)

    >thinking Ash would win

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:16 21/08/2016 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    It's my own fault, but I can't help having hopes and dreams.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:37 21/08/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    the show would pretty end at that point

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:06 21/08/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    there will be a new MC who will take all his heritage (all pokemons or just pikachu)

    and a new season for more $$

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:41 21/08/2016 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    I'd really rather they just move on to new characters.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:41 21/08/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    He's got a shitload of mistresses ....

    Misty started it off ... and she was the best~

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:53 21/08/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    Ash has so many bitches now, he needs to settle the hell down and fall for one of them so we can get someone with personality as an MC.

    Plus he already dead, it's the longest running zombie show ever. Ash is a reanimated corpse.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:49 21/08/2016 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Ash is a shit trainer
    who the fuck just lets your best Pokemon leave
    He Ignores type matching like.. 70% of the time
    Puts a bunch of strong Pokemon he caught or were just handed to him most of the time for free back in Prof. Oaks farm never to be seen again or for just one episode
    Dude gets free badges for losing
    Why isn't he like in the forest for days on end trying to catch stuff or actually train his Pokemon in actual battles?
    Why doesn't ash fight more random trainers?

    I could go on probably but I'm already bored.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:06 21/08/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    Because he's too busy getting involved with random stranger's promblems

    That's what I'm assuming that's still happening. Stopped watching after Dawn left.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:59 21/08/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    Then I guess you haven't watched xy. He ignores matching intentionally 100% of the time and wins. He catches the exact amount for a full team at the pokemon league (no Oak transfers). He wins every one of his badges. He doesn't spend days trying to catch stuff, but he fights random trainer battles. He has loads of training scenes and looks for interesting counter-measures.

    He also as an underdog rival that eventually catches up to his skill. He has an OP rival with a mega charizard x. There is literally a girl that's in love with Ash (not the usual undefined status bs). Ash is a passionate idiot this season instead of a complete retard that recycles the same mistakes from last season.

    This was the one season/series in the pokemon anime history where Ash was actually skilled and worked his ass off to fight in the finals match of the pokemon league. The next area in the story doesn't have a pokemon league. If Ash was EVER going to win it would have been this season, so that's the reason for the hype.

    There were good parts. There were some pretty boring parts. It was still the best season of pokemon I've ever watched.

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    Comment by SomeDuder
    05:47 26/08/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    I have no idea how old you are, but if you're delusional enough to think that Nintendo is going to cater to adults in a cartoon that is clearly aimed at teh babbies, then you live in a fantastic world.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:21 18/09/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well I'd like to teach kids that hard work pays off most of the time, Ash has literally come up short so many times that the disappointment would've caused any normal person to just outright quit...this is basically a show where no matter how hard you try, no matter how much you practice, no matter how much passion you have for something, someone older than you is gonna come in and basically be the monkey wrench in your machine.

    Look at most of the people Ash has lost to in the pokemon leagues, and how many of them were older than him.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:18 22/08/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    I see it as a form of environmental protection. I mean if you left Ash to shuffle around in your local fields of grass by the time he finally grew competent enough to move on he'd have trampled it into a barren waste. Getting him to the next city is only a positive for everyone living there.

    I mean seriously, he can't even bother to get a bike. Kid is never going anywhere.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:02 21/08/2016 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Pikachu should leave Ash.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:10 21/08/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    I agree, Ash is ridiculous

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:33 23/08/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    Ash will commit suicide if Pikachu leaves...

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:35 21/08/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    true, he carried that final, but still lost

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:44 21/08/2016 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Those trash bins and bags are somehow immaculately clean. Those cowards would never actually throw those things away which they have taken really good care for. I bet the companies actually don't care if they do because those things are no longer profit for them anyways.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:13 21/08/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    Ash only will win when Pikachu envolve to Raichu and bring back charizard, or if he get Mewtwo.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:00 21/08/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    It's kinda shallow to think the anime can't go on if Ash/Satoshi wins an official league. The adventures manga already starred a lot of different characters. I don't see any problems if the anime follows suit.

    Ash is looking more like Hideo Kojima now lol. His company don't want to let him go.

    Also, they can make Ash win a league then lose to the regional champion.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:59 21/08/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    This has been bugging me for a while; why can't Ash win a league championship? I mean it won't be the end of the series since they just keep churning out more Pokemon each arc. It would show character growth and keep people's interest more than a few seasons. Since everything just reset each new area and get olds rather quickly.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:32 22/08/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    >losing another league match (his 7th one after 900+ episodes)

    I wonder how many years passed by internal time. Even if you take every episode as a one day, that's still would mean 2+ years, and league matches happens every 3-4 months. Is this some time loop, as there's no progress at all anywhere?

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:26 22/08/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    Ash is actually a 30-year old man-child still living off his mother's mailed handouts.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:06 22/08/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    i dont see whats the problem here. stop making a fuss. it wasnt a bad preview, nor the fact that hes loosing, so what its just a kinders cartoon?

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:01 22/08/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    How does a guy like Ash get up in the morning, look his Pikachu in the eyes and not want to kill himself for being a complete failure?

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:06 22/08/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    Satoshi ....the Yamcha of Pokemon.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:09 23/08/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    I don't know what this "Yamcha" is, but it sounds disappointing.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:31 18/09/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    There's always the Sun and Moon seasons...

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    Comment by Sakido
    14:25 21/08/2016 # ! Neutral (0)


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    Comment by Fail Rider
    01:59 22/08/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    They really should've given Ash a win. He's been at it for too long, he should really move on with his life.

    Charizard, Pikachu, Ash-Greninja, Sceptile, Blaze Infernape, Goodra, Snorlax, Noverien, etc.

    I just wish that with they make a series where Ash comes back to one of the previous leagues, maybe Kanto. Buddy up once again with Brock and Misty. Bring his all-stars. Challenge the league and win. Become legendary. Travel the world once again with his Kanto buddies. Bone Misty for fcks sake, their romance continuation is long overdue. Battle the legendaries. Come around for some battles against other league champions, win or lose, would be really badass.

    Have the Sun/Moon anime have a new girl protag who looks up to Ash as despite the guy having lost 7 leagues, still persisted and finally won. Imitate him in ways farthest from how Ash really went, only seeing him as "the big guy", trying to build up his pokemon the same way he did, etc.

    Basically, a fangirl who wishes to evolve into an ascended fangirl who will one day rise up the ranks like Ash did. Then, they can cross every few tens of episodes, getting caught up to Ash's hijinks or actively trying to chase Ash to help with whatever problems he's solving. Then, challenge and lose to the league and carry on the league-losing streak tradition Ash used to have, with Ash's encouragement to always try.

    Then Team Rocket could go around chasing Ash, still, but not so much as enemies anymore but to learn and attempt to reap from the situation the shadows (if Ash finds an epic pokemon hotspot, they can try their hand at it as well), or at least, as discreet as they can only be. The trio would then help the new protag every now and then when she crosses paths with Ash just because they see how she is similar to the little twerp they always chased back then.

    Wow, wall of text of ideas.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:28 22/08/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    Honestly I just wish Ash would win so they could finally replace him. I get the Pikachu obsession, but anyone can have a Pikachu, damn it. They're a dime a dozen in the X/Y starter forest even.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:31 21/08/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    they should have just started making new characters, maybe having the previous ones be gym leaders or something.

    as it is ash is always the worst trainer in the world.

    If he actually tried using his most powerful pokemon (and his level 999 pikachu that he's obviously hiding) he'd 1 hit everyone.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:06 22/08/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    They should've went with something like JoJo's Bizarre Adventure. A different main protag each region and stuff. That way, it'll be something different every time. Not like what the pokemon anime does. Which is Ash goes to new region> somehow still loses despite having a level 100 pikachu> Ash forgets the stuff he learned in the previous region> Ash befriends gym leaders>bla bla. Lol

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:30 21/08/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    Wow...Pikachu can't clutch it out. Ash could have brought Sceptile, Infernape, Snorlax, Krokodile, AND his own Charizard for the final match, but he just has to always lose...I guess we'll have to wait for the 25th anniversary or 30th.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:04 21/08/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    Pikachu clutched hard and beat two overpowered pokemon. It carried that final match.

    Everyone else on his team didn't perform, which is ironic since his entire team is really strong this time around.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:31 22/08/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    I guess farming Team Rocket isn't worth the XP you'd think it'd be.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:05 21/08/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    Figures, they wanted to keep Ash in case they need to make a Pokemon Sun and Moon anime. They might not give him a break until the Pokemon company ran out of ideas for new regions for another Pokemon game.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:56 21/08/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    Why bring it here?

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:45 21/08/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    *sigh* Can they just end this anime already? Or end this anime and make a new one like based on the Pokemon Adventure manga series?

    Defend him all you want for those who...defends Ash.
    Gary was right at the part back in the original series.


    Comment by Anonymous
    06:37 21/08/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    An anime adaptation of Pokemon Adventures would be awesome to see. Much more faithful to the game's mechanics, as well as new and refreshing protagonists for every region featured. It would've been great.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:33 21/08/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    That's what he gets for dumping Misty, or Dawn, or any of the half dozen other girls he was running around with.

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    Comment by Anonymous
    07:01 21/08/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    they managed to kill it for me long ago.
    ever since that horrible girl that entered the show after Dawn, along with that effeminate boy butler i simply lost interest in the show.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:05 21/08/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    I don't hate iris but I wished they used either BW or BW2 female protagonist instead

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:43 21/08/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    Any of the 2 BW female protagonists would overshadow ash by a long margin. Both girls are much more badass and skilled than ash could ever dream.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:00 21/08/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    Blame the writers don't compare her game canon with the awful anime characterization look at anime Skyla ugh....

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    Comment by Anonymous
    07:25 21/08/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    Doesn't matter...I guess Serena is his consolation price. He's gonna tear that pussy up and leave it knocked up before he goes off to Alola.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:55 21/08/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    She's going to be riding Alain's dick in less than two episodes, because Ash can't catch a fucking break.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:58 21/08/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yes it does... Pokemon ain't about that crap plus Serena, May and Dawn canonically in the main games isn't even 10 to begin with....

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:37 21/08/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    That would make it a harem, which is no bueno for kids show.

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