Ellen Baker’s Illustrator: “Keep It Clean!”

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    Comment by Anonymous
    05:59 10/04/2016 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    There a few fan art of her seeing the "18+" creations online and crying
    Maybe the creator should stop visiting such lewd sites in the first place instead of complaining about it

    This is far more popular than that blond russian military officer girl or whatever.
    Anime when?

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:54 10/04/2016 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Naturally it is Ok for artists to ask to keep the fanart clean and tell the fans what the original creator prefers.
    there's is NOTHING wrong in requesting to tone it down.

    Then again forcing such rules would be stupid.

    But yeah I would like to see people who draw fanart respect the artists will.
    At least I like to respect artists will.

    I hope you understand what I mean.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:24 12/04/2016 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    I agree it is okay for an artist to make a request, but it is also okay for people to ignore that request. Self-censorship is the cry of people who want to curtail other peoples freedoms.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:26 11/04/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    >I hope you understand what I mean.
    I don't follow you.

    You're an artist? Or you avoid rape-fapping some character?

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    Comment by Fonzer
    05:57 10/04/2016 # ! Good (+0.7)

    She should only be caring about her original work and not think like fanart has somehow effects on her actual work.
    Kids will still get her work mostly if sold around for kids.
    Fanart is something she shouldn't look at as what is your is yours and what is fanart is fanart only.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:07 10/04/2016 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    I hate to play devil's advocate but it's fan's ignore the original creator's request that will cause issue for the fanart/doujinshi scene. The creator has every right to want to curtail any misrepresentation of their creations. Simply throwing the creator's genuine request aside because the fanart isn't intended for kids is just self-serving for the people that create the fanart off the original work. This is similar to the rationality that software pirates condone their behavior.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:35 10/04/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    Because fanart hurts sales of the original material?

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:36 10/04/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    I would buy it actually, but I'm still waiting for anime tv series :)

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:44 10/04/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    hell yeah, i would love it!

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:06 10/04/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    It definitely hurts the image of the material if the material is a textbook for children.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:09 10/04/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    this not hurt his sale, instead this (just imagine someone is doing this to your daughter, sister or mother) would you like it.
    P.S. i dont care

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:11 10/04/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    Actually the creator is right on this one. It will become an issue when parents or the kids themselves start googling for the adorable character only to find filthy porn all over the internet, this will damage the sales of the book as parents will become too preoccupied by the sexualization of the character. After all, it's the character that the book is mostly known for, not for being an english book itself, unlike pokemon which is now a huge series widely known for its videogames and not the filthy fan art.

    Hopefully there should be more ecchi pictures than explicit ones so the character keeps being protected as a mascot for kiddie books.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:36 10/04/2016 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    ... Safe search or maybe parents could actually be parents and monitor their children.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:46 10/04/2016 # ! Good (+0.6)

    Yeah I never let my Children buy Pokemon related products because they have filthy fanart....
    said no Parent ever!

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:13 10/04/2016 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Just don't do any ecchi drawings of Hatsune Miku, that would be bad.....

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:15 10/04/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    They will. By not letting them buy the product

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:05 12/04/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    What kind of fucking kids searches up a character from a english textbook? And why don't you fucking search her on google right now? You barely see "filthy porn" at all and if you're a parent that is worried of what their children will do on the internet. You be having filters.

    The only porn you'll see is from the 18+ side of pixiv, sankaku channel, exhentai, and just hentai sites in general and that is just the kid's fault when you clearly have huge signs that tell you to be 18+ to access the site.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:19 12/04/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    I don't buy that logic, if that were true then all the furfags who draw pictures of disney characters would have shattered the company's image years ago, but I don't see parents condemning disney for fanart.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:21 16/04/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    They can't search for this if it's NSFW, and if they insist well they wouldn't really go on telling their parents about it right? Besides, websites that hosts these kinds of contents are a bit sneaky.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:00 10/04/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    It can affect the author in a rather obvious way - all it takes is "+1 dumb parent".

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:55 10/04/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    "what is your is yours and what is fanart is fanart only"

    Well, until your publisher says they don't need your services anymore because too many schools decided to not go with the textbooks after web searches for the character start turning up too much explicit content. >_>

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    Comment by cpc65
    09:54 10/04/2016 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    "I'm hot for teacher" - D. L. Roth

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:17 11/04/2016 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Wait a second, man... whaddya think the teacher's gonna look like this year?

    OH MY GOD!!!!

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    Comment by cpc65
    07:12 12/04/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    I brought my peeencilll.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:21 10/04/2016 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Ellen Baker is just a Jun Nagase rip-off. All the guy did was change the color and drawing style.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:58 10/04/2016 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Lol at the last image.

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    Comment by Daniel Park
    14:15 11/04/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    man I just busted out laughing at that one.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:28 10/04/2016 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    She's like that new Christmas toy that gets played with so much it's broken before the day is over.

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    Comment by Anonymous
    21:26 11/04/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    ... and she hates it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:39 10/04/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    Uh, I am not seeing porn fanart of any "kids' show" ruining said shows, so... why would it happen for this character then..? She has even less exposure than TV shows (no pun on "exposure" intended...).

    More importantly... How did the creator find out about it so fast..? That seems oddly suspicious.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:47 10/04/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    Maybe because News Sites ALL AROUND THE DAMN INTERNET post about it?

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:21 11/04/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    poor girl, that murica chick...
    look on what those otakus (and weaboos too?) have done to you...sooo shameless and lack of respect to all muricas..
    that's why we need donald trump as the next murica president..so that those filthy otakus and weaboos won't dare to make fun of murica chicks anymore (blacks, mexicans and hispanics do not count)
    all hell donald trump!!! the next president of murica

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:27 10/04/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    The black guy in the pregnant image reminds me of Wasabi from Big Hero 6 for some reason, lol.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:24 11/04/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    i thought this was about Mary Cagle at first.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:59 12/04/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    Holy fuck. It sure feels like tumblr in the comment section.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:52 11/04/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    News Flash to creators of characters/universes/ANYTHING:

    Your creation WILL be sexualized. By someone, somewhere, doing whatever that someone can imagine, by whomever these 'someones' are. You CANNOT stop it.

    If you are not okay with this happening, regardless of whether you support or 'endorse' such activity or not, it does not matter - If you are not at the very least "at peace" with the fact that it WILL happen, then either do no create it, or do not release it to the public in any way, shape, or form. Keeping it private and to yourself is the ONLY way to "protect" it from the masses doing whatever they want with it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:02 11/04/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    It's not that she's not ok with lewds of her character. It's that if people keep making lewds, so much so that a google search of the character leads you to a porn site, then the company producing the textbook will have no choice but to drop the character.It's happened before, and if people don't practice some goddamned restraint, it's gonna happen again.
    No more Ellen Baker.
    No more waifu to sperg over.
    And it'll be the fault of people like you.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:07 12/04/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    But the thing is google search doesn't do that at all. It's not that hard avoiding porn at all unless you're on 18+ sites of course.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:04 11/04/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    It might actually be better if the artist acknowledged her growing popularity and started up a contest for fan-art with winners being granted some recognition in the next installment of New Horizon. It might not do anything for cleaning up the ero-art, but it would increase the clean to smut ratio.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:25 11/04/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    According to the blog post on the illustrator's web site, he says he answered the interview questions hastily and didn't mean to come across as too assertive. He concluded that people shouldn't worry too much about it and just have fun.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:27 11/04/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    Nice. Time for more lewd pictures.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:16 11/04/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    Honestly, I get why she's asking to tone it down: when you look up Ellen Baker anywhere, the porn and suggestive fan art hilariously overshadows that of the original work. I'd be concerned too if I made something for kids and the most accessible piece of info about said character is mostly lewd drawings and shit.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:06 12/04/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    "Anywhere" like where? Searching on google images, you barely see porn at all and the only places you'll find those porns are on 18+ sites which is the kid's fault for going on them in the first place.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:04 12/04/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    all I see are ugly old ladies.
    Also what Anonymous
    05:52 11/04/2016 said. Don't want us to sexualize your creation, never release it.
    I do not care about what kids might see, hell on present day basic tv kids will see people almost have sex or two hot girls full of lust kiss at least once.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:11 10/04/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    So, let's repress freedom of artistic expression?

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:35 10/04/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    It's the creator's intellectual property, nevertheless. It's the same as if art galleries want to forbid people from committing vandalism or taking photos, for lack of better comparison.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:58 11/04/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    No, that's a leap in logic you dimwit.
    The correct comparison would be "making H doujins of Mona Lisa". And even then, there is a huge difference between the two.

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:34 11/04/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    1st, your aggressive immediate resort to calling names seems to suggest you cannot support your arguments better otherwise. Classic case of a Sancom hypocrite.

    2nd, they still down the copyrights to whatever the hell their work is. Most creators would agree it's vastly too difficult and isn't worth it, but they could sue the shit out of anyone if they actually feel inclined to because hell, that's what damn copyrights are for.

    Now use the common sense in that little skull of yours, kind sir.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:32 11/04/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    There is not that much of a difference. Even art like this has the potential to explode in prestige in a century or so. It is self-serving dimwits that would rather take the low-road than the high-road.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:15 10/04/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    Rule 34 - UGH even a quick google search of the phrase "RULE 34" leads to a website that has this teacher on it right there front and center lol.

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