Street Fighter V Censored: “We Want to Keep it T-Rated!”
- Categories: Games, News
- Date: Dec 14, 2015 05:33 JST
- Tags: Capcom, Censorship, Feminism, Oshiri, Street Fighter
A recent statement from Street Fighter V‘s producer Yoshinori Ono has divulged the reasoning behind R. Mika’s already infamous censorship, explaining that the change was so the game could “maintain a T-rating”, dismissing claims that it was due to recent feminist pressure to quash overly sexy games…
The censorship in question concerned R. Mika’s finisher, which had the saucy girl slapping her rump before committing a finishing move on her opponent, apparently causing so much disgust that the scene had to be “removed” – by panning the camera up slightly.
A video demonstrating the atrocious butt-slap (with the “headbutt” apparently being perfectly fine):
Yoshinori’s initial response to the whole censorship issue mentioned the acquiring and maintaining a new audience being a priority, rather than just servicing fans of the franchise:
Our objective with Street Fighter is to start over from zero[…] We want the professional players and the casual fans of the series to return, but we also want to reach those who have never even touched a fighting game.
So we can’t have something in the game that makes people think, “This is not acceptable.”
The producer’s latest statement however has caused even more resentment amongst fans, due to his remark regarding how they wanted to keep a T-rating:
We are a ‘Teen’ rated franchise, and we want to make sure we keep that appeal to a very wide audience. We thought maybe in those instances things could’ve been pushed just a little bit too far so we had to tone it down slightly.
We want to make sure that Street Fighter remains a family friendly franchise and it’s that delicate balance that we play ensuring that we remain a teen game.
Naturally fans immediately noted the contradiction in his ratings remark, with games being incorrectly rated on a very frequent basis, and with some visual representations made by the naysayers seemingly getting the point across quite well:
Although such changes are hardly new, that developers are finally willing to admit to them – even in the face of considerable upset from fans – may mark progress of a sort, even if censors and anti-sex feminists can still claim clear victory.
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Censorship is censorship is censorship.
Never support a company that endorses such practices, and never buy any product that's been altered in some way.
I agree. There's people out there who don't care about this type of censorship and claim it's not a big deal and we should "grow up", but then will complain when a certain feature in the game that they care about gets censored. Bunch of hypocrites. Censorship like this should never be tolerated.
I mean...it could still be rated T just look at Blazblue; plug suits, under boob, jiggle physics I mean this is Japan lol. The ones who are complaining are the ones who haven't seen this kind of thing in fighting games. You expect girls to dress like Chun-li and that's it? It'd be boring. Sex sells whether it's in a video game or a movie. If you hate this kind of "partial nudity" in a video game no less, then don't buy it. But change it? Nah, the complainers are waisting their time because the company is losing the money from the people who DO like the sexy stuff in fighting games, whether it's a completely naked guy like Seth or R. Mika slapping her butt cheeks. Don't like, don't buy, but don't change the product for "those" people. New fans will only get you so much money till the point the play the game once and set it down. Just ignore the complaints. Just my option though.
tell them stupid femnazis to grow up first, those stupid "princess" wannabe´s think the whole fucking world has to revolt around them.
BUT GUESS WHAT BITCHES?, NOBODY GIVES A CRAP WHAT SOME FRIGID OLD HAG THINKS ABOUT SHIT THAT MEN ARE INTERESSTED IN!
Its hard though when great games like Hearthstone do that.
Other games like TERA are still progress compared to prude westerners even after the Censorship.
For crying out loud, the game is still in development. It's not censorship when the game is still in active development. This is completely different than something like changing a game from one region to the next, like what Nintendo did with Fatal Frame and Xenoblade X. Games go through development changes like what is happening with Street Fighter V all the time. That's not censorship.
yes it is. Call it creator changes or whatever but I'll (we'll) call it censorship.
"Oh but its just a butt slap/crotch shot (Cammy was censored too), you're pathetic if you won't buy the game because of that"
"Lynlee is 13 you sick pedo! good for nintendo removing her bikini"
and? They are not real, they are fictional characters, not living people. Also SFV and the other games are not a necessity they are a luxury. If I don't agree with what [insert company] is doing then I have the right to not buy it, they need my money but I don't need SFV right this second.
If capcom/whoever else wants to pander to the moralfags/soccer moms/sjws/whateverthe fucktheycallthemselves then cool, take away my fanservice and I'll give my cash to someone who understands I like that stuff unaltered.
Another thing to point out is if we don't tell them how much we do not approve of these edits then the censorship will not only get worse but it may last for decades, even become permanent. Soon we won't be allowed to sell shit with the explicit level of custer's revenge if we let these "holier than thou" assholes put us down just because we like stuff that most of society disapproves of.
I still plan on getting Street Fighter V but used around $15 and I'm doing that fight money thing for the extra characters because capcom isn't getting a dime from me.
Interesting thing, nobody cares that in game a man can acutually beat a woman senseless until the can't get up anymore (yo actually need to do it to win), but showing a buttslap is worth taking out.
weird i never hear the femnazis ban some Yaoi or Shota stuff where its necessary, but hey, thats prolly not really hurting any children anyway right?
What an entitled little brat. Use you head for once and actually think about everything you just posted. Just wow.
Nobody cares because there's nothing wrong with two people fighting in a competition, gender is irrelevant. It's only relevant when you make it relevant, like putting a girl in floss thin straps and then having her slapping her ass and nipple popping out. I actually liked the ass slap, it's cute and cheeky. If it was me I'd cover her ass up instead of having such a stupid costume and put the slap back in but that's just me. But the nipple slip? That's just stupid and unecessary. It's the sorta "PAY ATTENTION TO ME!!" garbage I'd expect from Mortal Kombat, not a respected, venerable series like Street Fighter.
Censorship usually occurs when games are in development.
"So we can’t have something in the game that makes people think, “This is not acceptable.”"
"Self-censorship can also occur in order to conform to the expectations of the market. For example, the editor of a periodical may consciously or unconsciously avoid topics that will anger advertisers, customers, or the owners in order to protect her or his livelihood either directly (i.e., fear of losing his job) or indirectly (e.g., a belief that a book will be more profitable if it does not contain offensive material)."
This is called self-censorship, and usually occurs before something getting released, duh.
The game was originally "sexualized" in one instance and was blatantly edited so that this wouldn't be the case. That's them censoring themselves and if you don't see how that's censorship then you're naive. There are different ways to censorship presents itself.
It's not like they re-did R Miku's move so that she's simply not slapping her butt and the fact remains that this was something they designed and implemented but went against it because they didn't want to upset people.
Similarly, they knew what they were doing when they gave Cammie a camera angle that highlighted her crotch but again the edited that out really badly.
And then there was the Chun-Li bug where on player had breast physics on the player select whereas the other didn't. I'm willing to bet that the actual glitch was the player not having the bouncing.
The real problem is with the people who don't see the problem with this. I'll highlight it for you. The problem isn't what they've censored, the problem is the practice of censorship. I don't care that they removed the breast slider in Xenoblade Chronicles X, I care that they felt the need to change their product to appease a part of our society who are too sensitive.
Right...
So when Christian moralists (and lately the regressive leftist/feminist moralists) have forced industries (comics, movies, games, etc) to adapt various rating systems and similar that economically punish refusal to kowtow to the moralist - expressively for the purpose of making the content creators adapt to the moralists ideologies and political agendas - it's not censorship?
Because the companies are still free to choose between releasing a game the way they want it and get a rating that loses them a shit ton of money, or change it so it adopts the moralists values?
No sorry - that shit is still censorship. It might not be the hard kind of censorship that directly impedes anyone's right to free speech, but the rating systems that in practice put heavy economic punishment on those who refuse to compromise with their artistic vision with the moralists sensibilities is in practice a system that enforces a soft censorship on the industry.
And how much of those Fans have been waiting YEARS for this Game to come out this way?
Face it, SFV is more niche than a Rockstar Title ever will be
This, yes.
The only rating that affects your bottom line is the AO rating. I think GTA V more than proves that you can make good money with a mature rated game. Anyway, with the booty slap included, SF V wouldn't get a harsh rating anyway.
The product hasn't been altered because it has yet to exist as a product. It's still in development.
You might be able to argue that you, personally, would never support an artistic work in which the artist(s) has made compromises, but companies aiming for certain ESRB ratings is a practice as old as the ESRB (the same for rating movies G, PG, etc.). Some companies even through "objectionable" content in just to push the rating up, a process sometimes referred to as "fifteening". Do reject those products too?
Censorship occurs in the development process. Especially with games in their late stages. Its still censorship.
Yes, makes sense in terms of the age rating. It doesn't seem the kind of game that this would be targeting that younger audience though does it?
Maybe in capcom-people head the T-rate will give it more visibility, as it will give green-light to display the game in front window of stores everywhere.
But i think old fans will know about it and buy even with 0 visibility, and the majority of new people will grap a cheaper digital copy in pc/psn...
are they not allowed to show call of doody in shop windows?
You're so way off base. It's not censorship if you change the the content yourself, under no outside pressure. Yes, there is self-censorship, but I can't count this as that, because you can see R Mika's ass ALL THE TIME in this game. Because you don't see it close up for a second isn't a call for boycott. She's ridiculously dressed, and that's awesome considering the times we live in.
It's self-censorship faggot, and the Censorship is caused by Western SJWs probably in localization making a stink, and not the original Japanese developers.
That's a ridiculous thing to say "There's tits and ass all over this game, but they moved the camera up an inch, so the whole game's forfeit."
It makes me wonder if people who say this were ever going to buy the game in the first place.
I bet Capcom Japan doesn't even know what the fuck SJW means. They just have a certain line they felt like they shouldn't cross. Street Fighter has never been the game that you come to for extreme cheescake. That's DOA's territory.
The very definition of Censorship it to alter content to keep from offending somebody.
https://www.aclu.org/what-censorship
THe company thought they migght offended somebody so they altered it. And it was a shit job at that. They just moved the camera up. Might as well just throw a stupid black censor bar over her ass for that one little scene. The fact is with all the other sexualization in the game it was a stupid move that just pissed of a bunch of fan. Cammy's intro too.
Damn straight i'm not buying this game now. Fuck them and their BS. There's plenty of other fighting games coming out that don't cave to SJW.
Well, your 12 year old insults have certainly convinced me.
What SJWs would be in localization, and what pull could they have over the content? They can make all the stink they want, but the localization team doesn't run shit. It's hard to conjure conspiracy theories, isn't it, buddy?
fear of public backlash, and wanting a specific rating from an outside group is social pressure, and that is an outside pressure. Even if they say the process was internal it was ultimately an external force that lead them to "their decision". Also be it from a google search or the oxford dictionary this is quite literally self-censorship.
You just love to go against the grain don't ya? Why don't you go back to your own planet? Oh, wait...
If the grain needs to be gone against, I'll fucking do it. If people are being illogical or fly off with an emotional response, someone has to talk a bit of sense.
I don't get where you're coming from, or even going to with that comment.
Capcom is restricting its own speech. If someone forced Capcom to alter content then that is censorship.
Man are you fucking dense.. it IS Intern Censorship.
Man are you fucking dense.. it IS Intern Censorship.
What is "intern censorship"?
Then reread it. Here's the simple point of my comment: It's not censorship!
I think the bigger the shame is the utlra super mega awsome remix is 6 months away.
Feminists ruin another game
look at what happened to Dead or Alive Xtreme 3
People need to stop buying there shit games when they censor.. hurt them where it counts there pocket book and they will stop listening to damn feminist crap heads that try to protect 2D and paper figures.. WTF?
feminists have nothing to do with this, dumbass
Wrong, this is a preemptive move so that they don't have to experience backlash. If this game were released in the west it would be met with reviews detailing how these games are wrong for sexualizing women. Maybe read the western reviews for Senran Kagura before typing, dumbass.
If the game's going to get backlash over its female characters, it's STILL going to get that backlash, because a) look at all the damn ass and titties in this game already and b) R. Mika's still smacking her ass! They just moved the camera up an inch. It didn't do much to save the game from the PC police.
You forgot hipocrite USA moralist too!!
Feminist are the stupid EXCUSE of Koei Antigaijin Tecmo to dont released DoaX 3.
1) if a you only play this for Mika, you could just look at porn. 2) No one gave a shit about the DoA Xtreme until KT used their anti-SJW bait.
Point has been made.
On one hand, maybe the butt slap is a -bit- too 'suggestive' (lol) for an actual fighting game (ie: one that -isn't- DoA). But, on the other hand, who really gives a fuck about a butt slap, even at a Teen rating...?
If you compare Cammy's old and new intros, you can see that they literally sacrifice the intro's integrity (the dramatic camera angle on her face) JUST to avoid the crotch shot. Same shit here, they're compromising how the character is seen (either their personality or literally) just to please a bunch of sensitive babies.
Devs need to grow some god damn balls already, or remember that they actually had a pair at some point.
Yeah. Cammy's intro just looks dumb now. They at least could have changed it to make it look better, but I guess they're too lazy. The camera placement looks very awkward now.
Can't slap her own butt, but you can punch her in the face repeatedly, and that is perfectly ok.
For SF6, they'll remove all the violence to make it more family friendly and appeal to a wider public.
Street card fighter alpha (betadogshit rated)
That's dangerous, they could include loli illustrations. Better make it text only.
You mean appeal to a smaller audience, since it won't attract anybody who wants it.
It'll then be rated E and Mario is a secret character.
Nonsense. Mario is too violent, what with the immolating of his foes and what not.
Well done m8, well done.