Final Fantasy VII Remake: “Will Be a Multi-Part Series”
- Categories: Games, News
- Date: Dec 8, 2015 18:35 JST
- Tags: Final Fantasy VII, Remakes, RPG, Sony, Square Enix
As if recent revelations weren’t depressing enough for those in favor of Final Fantasy VII’s old turn-based combat, it has been announced that the Final Fantasy VII remake will also be a multi-part series, a choice that fans have already been denouncing as a cash-cow milking of the most embarrassingly epic proportions.
The reasoning behind this volatile decision stems from the game’s sheer size, as producer Yoshinori Kitase claims that attempting to fit the entire remake within a single game would be impossible due to the graphical quality – an issue that somehow could not easily be resolved with the usage of multiple discs, as the first game and so many others have done for decades.
A Famitsu interview also unveiled that other game companies such as CyberConnect2 have been lending a helping hand as well, and may possibly be the culprit for making the game episodic, as CyberConnect2’s .hack franchise is so infamous for.
The developers however have tried to reassure gamers that each volume sold will be equivalent to that of a full-size game, though no particular qualification as to what constitutes a “full-size game” is provided.
A brief discussion with the game’s producer Yoshinori Kitase:
The Final Fantasy VII remake can instill shock and awe or cause a massive upset once it arrives sometime in the distant future; it can be pre-ordered now – the first installment at least…
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just remember, by supporting them all these years no matter how much and how often they fucked up you asked for this.
I haven't bought a game made by Square / Square Enix since Chrono Cross. And if the store would have let me I would have returned it. Piece of crap shat all over my memories of Chrono Trigger.
I liked Chrono Cross. I didn't really consider it a sequel to Chrono Trigger. Just a game that was in a similar universe and used some or similar characters.
chrono cross is probably square' earliest mistake. it's damn good as a game on it's own, but very, very bad as supposed sequel/continuity to chrono trigger
I felt the slide started with FFVIII, but I was at least able to force myself to play all the way through and beat it. I dropped Chrono Cross very early due to general dislike of the gameplay and characters. It's one of only two RPGs I've started and haven't finished, and the other game was a ragequit when I lost several hours of gameplay to a random battle party wipe after forgetting to save.
The stupidest part about this is people are saying it's okay because the original game was 3 discs.
The original game was 3 discs because it had a fuck ton of prerendered CG movies. That's completely different from splitting up sections of the story into episodes.
To elaborate further on my comment:
If I recall correctly, in the original game, regardless of what disc you were on, you had access to most of the world.
Now, if what they are saying is true, ie. "it's not possible to fit such a large world onto a single disc", that means the world won't be accessible at any time like the original.
In other words, it likely means the locations the player can travel to will be limited within the scope of each episode. That is, of course, if they are not giving us some bullshit excuse.
I personally think they're full of shit. It should be possible to fit the game data onto a single disc, and the console only needs to load the surrounding area at once.
Well, of course there's no point putting in Icicle Inn and beyond if the first part ends in the Forgotten City.
Also, in FF7 after certain events, places get locked. In that case, there's no need to put in content for those, since they aren't supposed to be accessed.
It depends on what exactly are they planning to cut.
If the price is 20$ I don't mind it being in 3 parts, but yes, majority of the world was accessible on first disc even before you got Highwind, you could travel a LOT with Tiny Bronco or you could get Golden Chocobo.
If the price will be low then I am willing to take 3 parts. I have a gripe over the combat system because I don't like the new remake system they are forcing down on me so whether I buy it or not depends how they actually end up playing this. I don't enjoy Final Fantasy Hack n Slash. I have DMC for that or Darksiders/2.
FF7 has a lot of content, I worry about what is locked out from the first part of the game. But I won't even buy it if it gets the Real Time combat system instead of ATB Turn Based.
They can easily do dual system (or triple cuz Original FF7 had dual system actually, Turn Based and Active Time Battle).
But idiots that have problems with thinking will love mindless hack and slash.
actually it'd be FFVII-1 FFVII-2 and FFVII-3 to save several BDs (the game could cost very expensive to buy, I guess they don't want to sell a whole set of BDs directly)
Also, games from the Xbox One and PS4 are not played off the disk anymore. So even if you need multiple BDs, it all just gets thrown on the hard drive anyway. This is just SE making excuses.
Oh yeah. I completely forgot that PS1 had jack all memory, so it was always loading forever. The FF7 videos were streamed straight off the disc as was audio. We've come a long way since then.
Most likely, the game will be a straight linear game ala FFXIII. Say bye bye to exploring the world in FFVII.
Not to mention the 3rd disc was barely used and it was FUCKING CDS. NOT BLURAYS.
Dual layer Blu-Rays can hold 50GB. The new BDs for 4k blu-ray can hold over 100GB.
CDs could hold 700MB. Megabytes. It took 3cds and they didn't even use the whole 700MB each.
The original looked like ass though.
compared to modern games, yes. but at the time of it's release that's a whole other story
Yeah, I fucking hate apologists.
What apologists? The game hasn't even been released to be defended from criticism.
You are bashing a game that you haven't played yet.
That's why i'm holding myself back from talking smack. As long as it's reasonably priced and it turn out to be great i'm fine with the split.
They got blu-ray technology, SE is fucking with us by saying "it's too big to fit in 1 disc"
A fucking blu-ray disc can hold up to 50 gbs of data
I'd be okay with it if they added "new content" that lets you fuck Aeris and Tifa, but that's not going to happen.
Everyone's still going to buy the fuck out of this game though. SQEX have been edging the exploitable FF7 fanbase for many years now, and they're at the point that just a small touch will get them to blow their collective loads. It'll probably even have DLC shit too. On top of all that, who wants to bet the final product won't look nearly as good as these "gameplay" clips?
Maybe I'll buy it in 2020 when I can get a PS4/FF7 bundle for less than $200 or something.
Anyways, even if FF7 is just another cash cow now, at least we can thank it for all the many years of great FF7 porn and doujin comics.
More great non-ecchi art from the same artist as above:
https://chan.sankakucomplex.com/?tags=tama_%28tmfy5%29
Why the hell are people so stupid that they think that what they are talking about is the number of gigabytes the game is. They are talking about the cost of asset production. Seriously, anybody with half a brain would have figured that out.
Why the down-voting. Trigrim has made a valid point. Don't get pissy because you don't like the truth.
Because... they didn't even bother to find out what it takes to actually make a game?
That's what multiple discs are for. Just the same as it was for the original game. Blu-rays can hold 50GB with standard dual layer.
There's no way the final release package is going to exceed 150GB if they released on 3 dual layers.
So making an expensive game automatically gives you the option to sell it more than once to the same player?
You heard the guys, RockStar!
Then they should just be honest and say that production of the remake is too fucking expensive so they want you to pay N times the cost of the average game.
The problem is with their stupid excuses about how the game's size requires this, despite the original being just one installment.
Not to mention their lame attempts to save face by saying that each partial game is equivalent to a full game.
They where honest, people just misunderstood what they meant when they said that the game's size would need it to be released in parts.
Updating to the latest technology and making it a ARPG is extremely expensive. Can you imagine the fights against the Weapons as a ARPG? That would be totally different than fighting them in a turn based RPG and way more expensive to make. All the boss fights would be way more expensive to make, because they would need much more complicated A.I.. The sets would need to be tested a lot more to make sure that you can traverse them properly and not get stuck in the scenery. They also claimed that that you would be able to explore other parts of Midgar, not just sector 7 like in the original.
Then they shouldn't have made it into an ARPG...
@anon
I guess the reason they use ARPG is because they want to make it accessible to younger gamers. Most popular MMORPG also use ARPG, that's why they also popular on younger demographics.
I remembered myself didn't have interest on any Turn Based RPG until I was 20. My friend first showed me FFVII when I was 17 yet I found it really "boring & unattractive" despite all the CGs and visual effects.
I finished myself FFVII when I was 22.
FFVII Re: Episode 1 - ARPG
FFVII Re: Episode 2 - Tactical RPG
FFVII Re: Episode 3 - Turnbased RPG
FFVII Re: Crisis Essentials - android/IOS RPG
FFVII Re: Crisis Interlude - android/IOS card game
FFVII Re: Vincent: Another Story - 3rdPS/FPS
I'll just wait for the rhythm game "episode"
FFVII ReAlternative: Midgar Groove - beat/rythm game
ffvii after saga: project gaia. building simulator :v
Don't forget
FFVII Re: Aerith Resurrection.
it will sold the most.
They only did this with Final Fantasy 13 because they over developed the first game in the series and cut out a lot of content which they used for later games, especially 13-2. They're probably expecting to do this again with FF7 remake.
Can we have a game where Zack doesn't die? Always found it bullshit in Crisis Core when you've over levelled your character and are comfortably dealing with the soldiers that the game takes away the choice of surviving from you.
Instant Death By "Damn I'm Not In The Sequel"
No surprises here, they have been preparing their "lie" since even before the announcement, they've been telling us for years FFVII was just "too big".
Anyone who didn't expect this was simply not paying attention.
Never excited about this remake because I knew since he beginning it was going to be a scam.
The scam still worth to play the shit out of.
Just pirate, nigga.
I am usually very against pirating however in some rare cases it is justified and this is one of them.
Is PS4 even cracked yet?
Afaik the remake will be multi platform, including PC.
PS4? PC!! noob~
This is going to turn out like Kingdom Hearts. How long do you think the waiting time will be between episodes? A year? Maybe 3-5 years? "Long awaited game" may be taken in a different context. It could even turn out like the Broken Age fiasco.
"We can't give you the whole game on multiple discs at once due to the graphics, so we'll give you the whole game on multiple discs and charge you for each disc. That solves the graphics and multi disc option!"
Don't worry! Even if they are dividing one full-size game into multiple pieces, each piece is equivalent to a full-size game!
Who would have thought the Banach-Tarski paradox also applied to videogames.
Modern AAA games lack on content. Splitting FFVII into multiple parts and making each one equal a modern AAA game in content should be easy.
So, you're argument is that modern games are shit so we should not expect more from this remake?
It seems you don't understand why people kept asking for the remake. We don't want them to release a shitty "modern AAA" game under the FFVII title. What we want is the original game presented with modern technology.