Final Fantasy VII Remake “Now An Action RPG!”

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Square Enix have seemingly not learned at all from their previous (and upcoming) releases in the Final Fantasy franchise, as the latest trailer for the Final Fantasy VII remake has been excoriating for apparently revealing the beloved classic has now taken the form of an action RPG – a choice that will likely have long-time fans converging on Square Enix HQ with flaming torches and pitchforks in hand.

The gameplay trailer that debuted at the PlayStation Experience 2015, featuring combat reminiscent of another Square Enix series, Kingdom Hearts:

Devoted Final Fantasy VII fans unconcerned with the remake’s “blasphemous” changes can pre-order the game anyway.


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    Avatar of Geno-nii
    Comment by Geno-nii
    18:20 06/12/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    ANGRY MOB!!!

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    Comment by HouseLife

    Really anyone who didn't see this coming is a fool. Not because 'Squeenix sucks' or because this will tarnish FF7 for some ridiculous reason, but because it was blatantly obvious it was going to be more action-oriented. The time of classic turn-based is gone, and not in a vindictive way, it's simply not a method of gameplay that is craved in triple-A titles by this generation of gamers. The only reason real-time action play didn't exist back then for these games is because the technology wasn't ready.

    Turn-based is endearing and fun, but everyone complained about how it was implemented when they tried multiple times to give everyone the best of both worlds. Nothing will make them happy, so even I say 'screw them, make a good game, not a good game that tries to please idiots.' I would have been fine if it was like the original, but am also happy to play the game in a new way. If it was just the same game over again, there really would not have been a good reason for it. They even said it's not going to be the same game, so nobody should be surprised or unhappy by this.

    Comment by Anonymous

    How dare you. Common sense and logic on an internet forum, specifically this one? Cut that out right now!

    Comment by Anonymous

    You're back!! And thank you for your wisdom to a forum that is incensed over every little thing.

    sincerely,
    a 2 year lurker

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:57 08/12/2015 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Your words are contracting and makes no sense. Especially the part:

    >The only reason real-time action play didn't exist back then for these games is because the technology wasn't ready.

    Technology has nothing to do whether game is turn-based or not. In fact there were ARPGs at the time and before of FF7.

    It's just shallow game design for modern ADHD generation who want everything _now_ and have no way to lose. Even the whole the art direction was changed to be more like those typical shallow hollywood action movies. I would even argue that the original PSX version managed to have better impact of Midgar, and the Avalanche with the setting / art direction than this trailer.

    In the original the people did not seem like superhumans, (apart from the character traits). They had normal conversations and avoided fights. Here it seems like "Fuck yeah lets raid this place while throwing some witty dialogue!". And seriously what the hell is up with Barret, he looks like something out of Blade now.

    FF7 was mix mash of serious, gritty, funny and weird and I don't see the remake doing it's justice for that.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:24 08/12/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    > technology wasnt ready

    seems like nobody even realized about seiken densetsu 3. rocking arpg genre, on snes

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:57 08/12/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    Not to forget about Ys series, which I would say is the best ARPG out there just because of it's simplistic design. (But even their newer ones are starting to stray).

    But FFVII isn't Ys.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:31 08/12/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    >The only reason real-time action play didn't exist back then for these games is because the technology wasn't ready.

    Right, because the 3rd person camera and hack n' slash titles debuted with One Piece Pirate Warriors. You're a fucking idiot. Please kill yourself. Not even joking. Do it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:30 06/12/2015 # ! Drivel (-0.8)

    it barely even shows the combat chill the fuck out

    Comment by Anonymous

    Typical of sankakucomplex...

    Comment by Anonymous

    most fans are actually ecstatic and very excited and happy about this gameplay trailer..

    so basically whine harder Rift.
    Some people are so blinded by nostalgia that they think FF7's battle system is god-sent. It's not. The battle system is so simple that it's almost brain dead. A little action oriented combat isnt killing it.

    And this is coming from a turn based fan. Embrace change already.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:00 07/12/2015 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Most fans are actually upset and very annoyed and disheartened about this gameplay trailer...

    so basically try harder anon.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:33 06/12/2015 # ! Good (+0.6)

    HAHAHAHAHA !

    I knew it...

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:47 06/12/2015 # ! Good (+0.8)

    Id really like to laugh with you, but since I played the original, Ill just sit here and cry...

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:06 06/12/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well, in this reboot/remake or whatever, the lifestream is probably made up of the tears of all the ffvii fans who felt they were wronged.

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    Comment by Rya
    18:34 06/12/2015 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Cutscenes, cutscenes, cutscenes, massive framerate drop at 0:45... looks like a square enix game.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:08 07/12/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    Not a problem, they'll have plenty of time to fix that as they usually delay main series Final Fantasy games at least 3-5 years.

    Comment by Anonymous

    yeah, ignore the fact the game isn't due for another fucking years, at least

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:47 07/12/2015 # ! Good (+0.6)

    fanboys are the worst fans

    Comment by Anonymous

    You're fuken idiot....

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:54 08/12/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    I know right? Isn't the game out like next week? Oh how will they find the time to fix everything?!

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:26 08/12/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    How the hell did you even realized that framedrop?Its barely noticeable.
    Stop being so annoying dude,you are just looking for a reason to complain about a perfectly fine game.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:43 06/12/2015 # ! Good (+0.6)

    square enix clearly forgot how mad people were for butchering the lufia 2 "remake"

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:47 06/12/2015 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    square has been dead to me for years. this wont revive their shit company.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:48 06/12/2015 # ! Drivel (-1.0)

    Turn-based is redundant with new-gen mechanics and graphics.
    It works for low poly and stylized sprites.
    How stupid will it look if a realistic character with realistic movements stood still in a pose, waiting to be hit and then get his turn.

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    Comment by WEL
    23:34 06/12/2015 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    just as stupid as a guy using magic and doing shit a normal human can't. So much for realism....

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:48 06/12/2015 # ! Good (+0.8)

    This looks like B grade action movie. Sigh

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:30 06/12/2015 # ! Drivel (-1.0)

    And your mother was in that adult video I watched last night, but I still fapped to it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:26 07/12/2015 # ! Good (+0.8)

    GREAT JOKE, FAGGOT

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:17 08/12/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    That was my father dammit!! You sick fuck.

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    Comment by Chen-04
    18:49 06/12/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    Just as expected of the company that forgot how to make games.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:50 06/12/2015 # ! Good (+0.8)

    so its a remake in the way that its not the same game at all its just ripping off the story to make $$

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:54 08/12/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    They already explicitly said that there will be changes, it's not like they pulled this out of nowhere.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:52 06/12/2015 # ! Good (+0.6)

    Cloud looks like some kind of malnourished junkie with AIDS. super skinny to the bones carrying big ass sword

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:04 06/12/2015 # ! Good (+0.8)

    Isn't that pretty much what Cloud is?

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    Comment by Kudilicious
    22:20 06/12/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yes.

    And it's completely appropriate, given that he was poisoned for 5 years.

    I'm just glad that they didn't make him look like a K-pop star.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:18 07/12/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    Luckily his bones are made of fricking adamantium. He wouldn't be able to lift that slab he call a sword without spinal problems otherwise.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:19 07/12/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    18:52 Oh look another moron who doesnt know cloud

    Comment by Anonymous

    oh look, it's one of the gayboi in cloud's fanboi club!

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:53 06/12/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    Looks turn based to me... Looks ARPG only because they showed the attack sequence after inputting the commands through the menu.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:11 06/12/2015 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    I guess you have never played kingdom hearts.

    Comment by Anonymous

    As long as it doesn't become just a linear action game constantly interrupted by cutscenes, I've got no big qualms. I'm also very dubious that FF7's enduring popularity is due to its gameplay, it's the story, characters and atmosphere that have "immortalized" it, and that's what S-E should strive to keep intact.

    They are investing lots of money on it and pandering only to a shrinking, aging (face it, FF7 is almost 20 years old), unpleasable and unpleasant fanbase means they could not make it at all. Thinkling it would have been the exact same game only with updated visuals and sound is delusional - the original is always there for those people (it's been published on the PS4 Store right after that trailer).

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:11 06/12/2015 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    FF7 gameplay was one of the reasons the game holds up. The materia system allowed a lot of interesting battle tactics and is also reason the original FF games are liked by speedrunners.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Typical of these perverted cock sucking shit stains, bitching and moaning like a bunch of unsatisfied idiots.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:23 06/12/2015 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Soooo stop bitching and moaning if you're unsatisfied with these comments

    Comment by Anonymous

    Sancom asswipes are always crying. that's the only thing they are good at.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:03 06/12/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    This clip clearly shows the menu with attack-Magic-Summmon-Items. I would say that it is more likely that we are just seeing the action of the attacks and not the boring turn>press attack>turn> press attack> turn> press magic> select magic> etc.
    And with the better graphics systems available now why would they have all of the enemies in a line? it makes more sense for a surrounding group to actually look like they have you surrounded.

    Cloud does need get himself a sammich though....way too skin and bones.

    Not to say SE wont horribly botch this, but it is too early to light the torches. (but keep them handy)

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:49 06/12/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    No no no, Cloud has been cutting down on those sammiches to look good for Sephirot

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:57 06/12/2015 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Square already admitted that the combat will be changed and not like the original FF7. So I have a big feeling this will be action RPG and less traditional RPG.

    I'm a fan of both hack n slash and RPG so I am okay with either.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:52 07/12/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    The menu system is of the same type as KH. It could be the enemies are lined up by coincidence, or trying to group up against you.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:06 06/12/2015 # ! Drivel (-1.0)

    the original ff7 combat is kinda a snooze so some changes are expected. It's still hard to say how it'll play based on the footage here.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:28 06/12/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    It's not even in the Alpha stage, so there's bound to be changes -- lots of changes.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:18 07/12/2015 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    We're not asking you if you like it. Thing is, a lot of people liked it as it was. Your own tastes are not relevants; most people here are not complaining about a "il looks good" or not. They are complaining about how stupid it is; if you want a ARPG you play a ARPG, not fucking FF7. Tastes are not relevant; even if FF7's battle system is "a snooze", it's quite clear that most people liked it this way,so while changing it a bit probably would have been ok, turning it int yet another LR/FF15 clone's is just screwing around for cash with the name of a classic for a completely "new" game.
    The crappiest game ever could verywell be crappy; if people like it this way, that's how it is. And not screwing around and saying that "people that are complaining just don't understand what an RPG is." (Right, Nomura?)








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