Funimation GamerGate Quip “Inexcusable!”
- Categories: Anime, News
- Date: Oct 4, 2015 17:22 JST
- Tags: English, Funimation, GamerGate, Prison School, Translation
An incendiary GamerGate reference inserted into the 7th episode of Funimation’s Prison School dub has prompted outrage online and a response from the company, though most have greeted it as little more than a cop-out and far from a sincere apology.
Criticism has stemmed both from the line’s irrelevance and deviation from the source material, and its obvious and rather ham-fisted attempt to shove the hugely persuasive “gamers are evil misogynists and the gaming media a paragon of integrity” narrative so beloved of feminists, knights of social justice and gaming industry media shills down the throats of disinterested viewers.
The line was concocted by Funimation write Tyson Rinehart, who has seemingly dug himself a deeper hole by taking a rather sarcastic stand in regards to the incident on his Twitter:
If you think rape threats against women in gaming are acceptable, I’m glad my script pissed you off. #PrisonSchool #itwasjustonelineyounerds
The “offensive” line:
Whatever the politics of the matter, neither the reputation of dubs in general or their respect for source material seems likely to be improved by the incident.
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not surprised this fuck adds shit like that, gamergate wanted responsible media, media said fuck you, blamed it on silly sexism in making shield, now this asshole sides with corrupt media, he should be fired
Gamergate is a /pol hate movement that got sexists to spin a web about responsible media that caught up a bunch of bandwagonners who really have no clue what corruption even entails.
But no, do go on and tout that shit, supporting a hate movement is totally fine as long as your reasons aren't hateful, right? I mean, that's what ISIS supporters tell me all the time!
That said, I don't disagree that he should be reprimanded for the line. It's incredibly poor form.
Anti-Gamergate is a coalition of child molesters and rape apologists. They also went to the UN to ban porn, and delicious/hilarious ecchi anime like you see here.
If you agree with any of these things you should take up the white cis male cum soaked flag that is AGAINST GAMERGATE
Hahahahahah! That was great, thanks for that :)
You're an SJW. Kill yourself.
so in order to remain an "individual" you just oppose all groups because you expect people can't treat you like an individual? The only ones calling GG a hate group are dumbasses who haven't looked at facts, no one besides SJW's calls it a hate group.
And SJW's are retards.
Actually, the way the voting has gone implies it has.
I don't know why you're trying to sound smart, but just so you know, it's not working.
I'm not in any 'anti-gamergate' faction, I'm just anti-gamergate. The problem is you seem to miss that there's a whole spectrum of opinions, and by pretending their are you are alligning yourself with a hate movement.
Sure, there's a horrible movement on the other side, but I am most certainly not part of that either. I'm what you call an individual, a difficult concept I know, I don't follow any hive-minded goal.
People supporting the independence of Ireland did not have to support IRA's terrorism. Similiar objectives do not equal similar mindsets neither similar actions.
We all want better games, but what we consider better and how we ask for them is completely different.
GG is not a hate movement, and let me ask you, how the fuck do you think a few thousand gamers will be able to stand up to publishers? Publishers might make the deal, but the corrupt journos still accept it. How do you expect publishers to ever get challenged if they got the media in their pocket? It is by the way also the job of JOURNALISTS to expose such corruption, which they are not doing, why should people spend their free time on doing what someone gets paid to do?
Nope they're all heartless murderers, just lime musl... uh nm
What a narrow and anglo-centric view on the Black Panthers. I'm glad you can tell me about my culture and my history.
The Black Panthers goals weren't unpalatable, read up on the Ten-Point Program. Are any of those demands unreasonable?
The Systemic Oppression of the United States used it's media machine to drive their name into the ground. I guess you're just one of those racist pretend "progressives". I DO NOT BELONG TO YOU.
Gamergate is just a tag you idiot, if a handful of hateful people comment on it, it doesn't make it a hategroup.
With this line of thought, you could call any blog/video/article misogynist, if there are a few misogynist comment under it.
The difference is that those people weren't aligning with the IRA, gamer gaters are. I fully agree we should be targetting gaming corruption (and honestly the publishers are more a problem than the journalists), but I sure as hell won't allign myself with a hate movement to do it.
The Civil Rights movement didn't latch onto the Black Panthers because they had similar goals, they openly opposed them, much like many opposed the IRA (thus the troubles), and like I myself oppose gamergate.
gg started on /v/
Anon you're a faggot. If this is accepted what's stopping Funimation or a game publisher to force feminist propaganda on us through anime and games?
Imagine having to sit through a dialogue in Fallout 4 or Jojo were the protagonists talk about rape culture and the wage gap.
This shit is already happening in DC & Marvel comics. We need to make it clear we don't want social justice in our entertainment or we are all going to suffer in the end.
You talk to Isis supporters all the time, do you?
All-you-can-eat Snackbar my friend. We have no bacon.
I've spoken to enough, I live in a prominently Islamic area so it comes up, but the majority are ardently against them.
I know I've been out of the loop for awhile, but I thought Gamergate was supposed to be gamer demand for truthfulness & integrity between gaming media/journalism and the game makers? Like, full disclosure about incentives when it comes to reviews (since there's been more than a few magazine journalists who've claimed to receiving gifts and the like from companies for better reviews which "they" ignored), etc.?
What makes them "creepy" all of a sudden?
Well, when the media says something long enough, stupid sheeple just fall in line. I mean whats easier, actually talking to people to see what they're about or reading about how they're all a bunch of cis white male oppressors?
The corrupt cabal of special friends shielded themselves by parroting the ridiculous lie that anyone who complains about their cronyism and nepotism "hates women".
That narrative magically transformed all diversity of gamers around the world into loser white male "misogynists" in basements who are "creeps".
The sad part is, lots of people believe that bullshit, because they rely entirely on Western "news" media to maintain their miniscule perspective of the world. They have been brainwashed into believing that women are poor, helpless princesses who need rescuing.
Fact is, cronyism and nepotism is a big problem in a lot of places. Assholes cover for their friends while intentionally suppressing other people. Seen it myself, seen it happen to others. Seen it first-hand in the game dev industry too. It's there, and it needs to go away. Just because it's everywhere doesn't make it okay.
Sometimes they use techniques like harassing or insulting those who disagree with them. They always say "The ones who do that are small portion of Gamergate" and "They don't represent us" but they make little to no effort in changing that.
They are basically extreme SJWs but in the other side of the coin.
That was what it started out as, but soon some shady types started to specifically target women who spoke out against them. Soon the controversy became synonymous with the death and rape threats that the original movement was overshadowed.
No, that's far from being true. For one thing, women specifically were never the target (there are several male SJWs who don't exactly garner favor from GamerGate either; John McIntosh, Ben Kuchera, and Bob Chipman come to mind). Second, GamerGate never advocated death threats and doxing towards their opponents and the community as a whole is quick to condemn anyone who does it (in contrast, people of GamerGate have gotten death threats and doxes from high-standing figures of the other side; in spite of this, the people responsible never get called out by their own). GamerGate's intentions have always been well-meaning from the start, but mainstream media has constantly been trying to skew it by focusing on the few bad apples, if not lie outright and blame us for things we were never even responsible for to begin with (some people tried to tie GamerGate to the shooting of Cecil the lion.... fucking seriously).
Incidentally, while GamerGate's goals have mainly been about ethics in journalism, topics of feminism and political correctness just happen to tie into it because those are exactly the type of people that journalists have been shilling out to these past couple of years. Of course, as typical of social justice warriors, anyone who has any sort of criticism against such topics, no matter how fair, are to automatically be branded a sexist, a racist, or some other type of horrible term and dismissed immediately. GamerGate's fighting against this type of bullshit one-sided discussion so that maybe the voices saying something other than "Anita Sarkeesian is always right" can actually be heard worth a damn.
Damn... thanks Yamato.
This is literally proving the point. The only people who give a shit about "ethics in game journalism" are basement-dwelling autistic reptoids who don't know a fucking thing about the game industry. And then the hashtag also encompasses a bunch of especially autistic reptoidozones who publicly look like assholes on Twitter, making everyone who's associated with games at all look bad.
Basically if you associate with, associated with or did anything with any "side" of GamerGate you're fucking idiot.
Zoe, pls go and stay go.
Gee. I thought it was a bunch of dipshits who did a coordinated harassment of some chicks. If that doesn't fit your description for creepy then I fear for what you think does. :)
Look it's a sheeple. As I am a woman, you are unable to disagree with me, because that would be harassment, and sexual harassment, and misogyny.
Sorry, but as a transgender I can disagree, because otherwise it would be a LGTB hate crime.
You'll always find someone stronger than you, unless you are the MC!
Sorry, but as the last unicorn you are both unable to disagree with me, because if you did, rainbows would cease to exist.
*spoiler alert* Rainbows are unicorn poop
I'm not sorry and I'm a straight white male and I can disagree or agree, doesn't matter, because I am dominant.
If by "harssment", you mean disagree with or criticize femicunts(or anyone with a va jay jay) for instigating with GGers then yes.
Oh, you so got that wrong.
Hating people with "va jay jays" are totes ok... if they are "wrongthink" people, like Sarah Palin - completely ok to call her a crazy bitch, you wont see a single fuck given about that by the SJW loons - but dare just call one of their feminist leaders a liar, and you're not only harassing them, you're even committing "cyber violence against women"...
And no, I'm not making this shit up, I wish I was, but just recently one of the anti-GG, SJW posterchilds - Anita Sarkeesian - went in front of the UN and tried to redefine harassment into meaning "people making videos calling me a liar". At the same UN conference, they got the bright idea to rename online harassment of women "cyber violence", and saw it as an extension of "violence against women".
Sarkeesian btw, is a public figure - she's a feminist activist - by the SJW batshit cracy definition of "harassment", Donald Trump is the most harassed man on the planet at this very moment...
She also had Zoe Quinnspiracy with her and some other of the professional victim con-women that GamerGate wanted to root out but the media obviously went with their "These poor POOR opressed women". The UN has lost all credibility if they don't know about, or worse SUPPORT, these liars.
holy crap, that was such clumsy reference, I would be surprised if this wasn't personal on the writers part.
Considering the Twitter account, it seems personal, he's scolding out everyone he possibly anyway. Anyway, Funimation might want to rethink keeping him around.
Someone needs to tell those white knight types that they still will not get laid by Zoe Quinn, no matter how much she was accused of sleeping around.
She is fucking ugly inside and out.
@YotaruVegeta
"That's between her and the person she cheated on."
Except when the people she slept around with are notable figures related to her career, then it becomes more than just a private matter. Keep in mind, the main reason for this upset is not the fact that she cheated on her boyfriend. Hell, if it was just that, nobody would give a shit, but such isn't the case. She cheated on him with journalists who'd speak of her "game" (if you wish to call it that) favorably. Obviously, if they're in a relationship (and donating to her Patreon, no less), there's gonna be some heavy, heavy bias. She also slept with her fucking boss, which says a lot about how she most likely got her position in the first place.
Add this to the fact that her "game" gets praised in the mainstream gaming media when any sane person outside of their incestuous in-group absolutely abhors it, and you've clearly got a scandal that's very much worth a discussion in the public sphere. Hell, with the social justice stance gaming sites have taken over the last couple of years, it was already long-suspected that journalists, indie devs, and other figures such as Anita Sarkeesian were just currying favors with one-another, and the Zoe Post was a major breakthrough finally exposing such corruption for what it is. Of course, the gaming sites only made matters worse by trying to censor any and all discussion about it.
If given the chance to speak to the general audience of white knights, I'd prefer to ask them WHY they'd wanna get laid by Zoe Quinn. If you're gonna put your career and all of your credibility on the line for a member of the opposite sex, are you fucking serious about having it be some leftwing extremist with a pisspoor dye job, facial piercings, and a severe hatred of men? Seriously, THIS is the type of person you'd wanna shill out her non-game for, THIS is the type of person you'd cheat on your wife with? I'd honestly like to know just what the fuck is going through those people's minds.
She wasn't accused of sleeping around, she was exposed for sleeping around :) the zoe post which was written by her ex, details it with logs (which he video taped to verify it was not photoshopped) that showed she admitted to having cheated on him.
Why do some people even like Zoe Quinn anyway? I don't care about what she does online, but she isn't what you'd call attractive. When any of you who comment here or read articles here on a regular basis walk outside, I can guarantee you will see at least a dozen people if not more that are far more attractive than this woman on a daily basis.
The ethics in journalism is not so much from Quinn "sleeping around" as it was from Games Journalist and Gawker/ Kotaku employee Nathan Greyson carrying on an affair with her while writing about her product thus providing positive coverage and marketing. This sort of thing is a huge ethical Nono for real journalists... Except when you are part of the in crowd.
Further raising ethical questions was one of the others Quinn was sleeping with was the chief judge of the Indie Game contest that her horrid little Twine text game (seriously it was like a crude info com game from the 80's. ) took top awards at. Show of hands, does anybody see an issue here?
Did Zoe Quinn deserve rape threats? By no means. But she, those she slept with, and the industry as a whole that create and supported their behavior did deserve to have some pointed questions asked regarding their behaviors and the lack of ethics they showed. And asking those questions is not misogyny. It is not rape. And it certainly is not appropriate to castigate your own consumer base for raising the issue.
@YotaruVegeta
The average person here loves sluts. People however don't like attention seeking sluts that are also drama whores.
Haaa more, she fluck...6 or 5..not 1 or 2.
the person she cheated on its a happy man for you uhh..
Anon 11:01- I looked up GG yesterday, on Twitter, and they LOVE talking about Quinn, even to this day. I don't even know what she's up to for them to keep talking about her. I can understand Sarkeesian, who has a regular YT series, but I can't imagine Quinn has any pull whatsoever. She might be working retail at this point, because I don't read about her coming out with any new games.
Anon 02:18, please provide a link to this positive coverage. Did Grayson write a preview or review? Did he mention it an unusual number of times?
I never heard of her sleeping with someone to win an indie game contest. I'll just say you're making that up.
You all talk about SJWs and the mainstream media. Why would Quinn have to sleep with people to get media attention when these groups would easily support Quinn anyway?
No, Quinn didn't deserve most of what was said and done on the internet towards her, but it was done anyway. GG doesn't have leadership, and doesn't have any membership guidelines, so anyone who is pro-GG can be a misogynist, and can be horrific towards any target. While some in GG say that they're about purer purists, other people have drug it through the dirt.
Yamato:
So Zoe Quinn slept with some Kotaku dude. That's undisputable, admitted fact. He didn't promote her game. That's also fact. It's a free game. I know that doesn't matter, but what fame has she gotten off of this? I have heard Quinn's name WAY more in connection to Gamergate than actual games production.
So whatever fuck-and-promote scheme people believe that Quinn had didn't work. Her name got put up in bright lights, but is she making money off of any of this?
You talk about her getting praise in the mainstream media. She got more praise from people she didn't sleep with than the guy she did sleep with. So I wonder what the hell the big fuss was about. From my viewpoint, Quinn and her ex were both nutsos who put their dirty laundry in public.
Yes, GG can lay claim to one thing: sites like Kotaku had to rethink their transparency concerning their writers' relations to developers. Good on GG, but I read so much dirty shit before that, so I couldn't stand by GG.
Who cares if she slept around? What does that have to do with "ethics in journalism?" That's between her and the person she cheated on.
time to write to http://www.twitter.com/funimation about their writers taking things personally and misrepresenting their audience.
It obviously is. Guy seems like a complete dickhole. Good think I don't have to boycott Funimation over this (their products were already hot-fucking-garbage).
The writer or editor was outed as a major sjw
they're using their position to shove in sermons to the audience
Would you hate it if Gamergate was mentioned positively?
Exactly. Imagine if they inserted a line whining about the Iraq war, or Planned Parenthood, or telling people to vote for Hilary.
They're all f'kn irrelevant and shouldn't be there.
Yep because it shouldn't be there.