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Avid watchers of shonen fighter series Fairy Tail have been expressing extreme levels of disappointment with the show’s latest broadcast, mostly due to the deviation from the manga when it comes to some much appreciatedly perverse prison scenes, which originally featured the incarcerated main characters in the nude.

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    Comment by Anonymous
    04:39 22/06/2015 # ! Good (+0.7)

    Striping human nude is a very old psychological trick that often going with torture. Torturing dressed person is half effective than torturing him/her nude and pretty pointless. It's a basic logic.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:46 22/06/2015 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    If you want to get into logic then the real illogical problem here is that their captors undressed them only to go out of their way to give them something else to wear. What kind of bad guy would do that? "We're gonna torture you and degrade you but... keep you unclothed? Oh dear no, we're not THAT evil!"

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:12 22/06/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    So you're saying every movie, every documented torture, every US blacksite that had their victims clothed in whatever garmet during the torture is incorrect because of an 'old psychological trick'.

    gtfo

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:12 23/06/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    If they keep them clothed in a movie it might be because they don't want the censor board to give them a higher age rating. Torture is ok to see as long as there's no nudity!

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:26 22/06/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/06/02/us-usa-torture-khan-idUSKBN0OI1TW20150602

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:17 23/06/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    You didn't read too much about it, did you? Just search for "us torture naked".

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:13 22/06/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    the actual reason for that may be close, but it's merely a small piece of the puzzle.
    Forced nudity during interogation is merely meant to pull someone out of their comfort zone as they are exposed.

    When the objective is just to cause pain, you couldn'T care less about the victim's state of undress.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:31 22/06/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    So for Gray the trick would be doing it dressed then...

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:49 23/06/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    Torture is as much a mental process as a physical process.

    You would find a few hours of reading serious material on the subject very enlightening.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:29 22/06/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yeah nothing about that is a "basic logic"

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:17 12/01/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    Who gives a fuck anyway, its a garbage show like all Shonen shit. Its not even fun anymore like it was at the start, it is literally just tits now. Still, im glad they censor Wendy

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:18 23/06/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    Here is some good reading to have a more realistic and clear understanding of modern torture.
    http://americanempireproject.com/empiresworkshop/chapter3/DODHumanResourceExploitationTrainingManual1983.pdf

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    Comment by Rya
    05:20 22/06/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    Abu Ghraib - the Manga.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:33 22/06/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    Guantanamo - the Manga.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:53 22/06/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    There are dozens of ways you can torture someone without going full nude. Electrocuting someones balls for example with a high voltage device, water boarding, suffocation, inflicting pain on the nerves, and various creative methods.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:21 22/06/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    You want to electrocute someone's balls through their jeans? You are doing it wrong man.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:18 22/06/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    I never said that, I said you can torture someone just as good without going full nude. You'd obviously have to strip the lower half. And to the person saying its only half as effective, imagine a powerful electric shock constantly being used on your balls and tell me you wouldn't tell whoever did it whatever they wanted to know.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:33 22/06/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    so no balls electrocution? dude, you don't know how to torture!

    Comment by Anonymous

    Still only half as effective as reducing them to their bare state, THEN performing torture on them.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Even if that is true it doesn't discredit what the original anon said.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:57 22/06/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    Torture itself is illogical, people will say whatever you want them to to stop it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:20 22/06/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    You mean as a form to gather information. Purpose of torture is not always getting information...

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:42 22/06/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    Bribing is actually far more effective in interrogation.

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:22 22/06/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    Nah torturing is so boring and unproductive. If one has to torture, water-boarding in the CIA style is easier and more effective. Or, simply apply bullet to the head for disposal.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:29 22/06/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    Bullet in the head is not considered an interrogation method by any standard...

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:17 22/06/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    The idea behind tourture is not to cause the most pain and try to kill them, but push the body to the limits of extreme discomfort all while keeping the subject conscious enough to still speak information when he/she finally breaks.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:37 22/06/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    I wasn't assuming anything? I was going by the context of torture displayed in the manga. That was all lol. Didn't think this was a general conversation about torture. I'll leave now and forget everything I've seen here today ._.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:14 23/06/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    @12:17 - but the way your comment was worded made it sound like you were speaking generally rather than about just this specific scene...

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:20 22/06/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    But you're assuming that anyone who wants to torture someone is always doing it because they want to gain information or something. Sometimes it just happens out of pure hatred. In fact you could argue that interrogation through torture is something someone would only do either due to ignorance of the fact that it isn't the best way to get information or they're just using it as a guise to punish a victim out of hatred and feelings of superiority.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:41 22/06/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    They also made prisoners listen to certain music for extreme lengths of time. Force them listen to a high-pitched vocaloid singing a repetitive song for hours or watch a bad anime.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:06 22/06/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    particularly Rick Astley's Never Gonna Give You Up song.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:40 23/06/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    I let this run each night, the prisoners love(hate) it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI_fgwbmJg0

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:58 22/06/2015 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    I knew sancom would post about this eventually and yes i was also disappointed with the lack of erza's nudity!

    im guessing they left mira nude cos most of her body was covered anyway while erza was almost completely exposed in the manga

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:01 22/06/2015 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Fuck the Anime, its always been an abomination compared to the manga, and this is the last straw. Its a slap in the face to every single fan of anime, to every adult in the world, to every fan of Fairy Tale, and to humanity itself. Hopefully whoever made the decision to completely destroy the deep emotional context of this part of the story will have something horrible happen to them, they should be fired and thrown out in the streets, tarred and feathered or bukkake'd all over in front of their loved ones.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:48 22/06/2015 # ! Neutral (+0.3)

    treason!!!!!

    how dare they not show them fully naked.

    such a travesty.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:59 22/06/2015 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Wow... yes disappointing but this was broadcast, maybe Blu-ray will yield different results.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:00 22/06/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    Looks like hentai xD

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:18 24/06/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    If this counts as hentai then they need to invent a new word for the sex-filled stuff i've been reading/watching all this time.

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    Comment by Anonymous
    14:58 22/06/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    Guys, help me out here. Who are the sexy ladies in SanCom's new BG?

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:50 23/06/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    I've been wondering the same. Even tried a TineEye search and got nothing.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:02 22/06/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    If only we could see more details in the nudity :(

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    Comment by Anonymous
    15:26 22/06/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    Where's my torture porn, geez.

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:49 23/06/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    "Torture Porn" doesn't require sex or nudity actually. The Saw films are considered "Torture Porn".

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:51 24/06/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    I actually find this change more tasteful, I mean its a shounen anime please think of the target audience.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:55 24/06/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    Would like to add that its primarly all of your faults for sexualizing the human body. Breasts are for feeding and vaginas/penises are for creating life. the anus is for pooping and so on and so forth. I don't mind a bit of nudity because its human nature. but its hardly something to be upset about.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:11 24/06/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yeah, let's not ever be sexually interested in each others bodies anymore so that human beings cease to have the desire to engage in sexual activity with each other and die out. Fact is, all human beings view other human beings in a sexual light. If any complaint can be made is that bodies of females vs males have been made more forbidden (women can't or wouldn't show their chests in public while men do so without any concern) in most cultures over most of human history, thus making the female chest far more tantalizing than it would be otherwise.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:16 24/06/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    @07:55 - Also it's hypocritical to say in one post that the body isn't sexual and shouldn't be made sexual and then in another post say that younger male audiences shouldn't be subjected to the "totally nonsexual human form". After all, female breasts are "just for feeding" right? So what harm would it do to show them in an anime kids watch? How do you propose to counter this culture of "sexualizing the female body" when you make it seem so forbidden to view the beauty behind the cloth?

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:54 04/07/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    The main problem is that the main age demographics for Fairy tail (Not to be insulting) is around like 4-10 year olds. People think that this anime/manga is for teens and all but come on, teenagers don't watch this stuff. Remember when in the early episodes of Fairy Tail, there was a disclaimer where Natsu told the fans to sit as far away from the TV screen as possible. I mean come on, that's Dora the Explorer level s!@#, so the demographics are at play here

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:00 25/06/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    This anime insults the manga.





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