The latest episode of womanly warlord anime Madan no Ou to Vanadis has drawn some harsh criticism online due to some allegedly subpar art and animation, hopefully to be extinguished with the BD’s eventual arrival – and also offering its staple display of empowering girl on girl combat sequences.

The “atrociously inexcusable” animation in question:




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    Comment by Anonymous
    20:44 02/12/2014 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Only anal no-lifers would initially notice that. You would have to be purposely looking for issues, instead of watching the anime for what it is, to notice that.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:20 03/12/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    I agree with you bro, these people don't seem to understand how animation works. Budget is a serious bottleneck for shows like these. A show with average budget will have a few episodes where you will see a few instances where they rely on these kinds of frames to exaggerate movement and create the illusion of movement. It rarely happens and when it does, it does in an eyeblink. But what can you do, some guys are prissy princesses with giant dildos up their ass, everything they get has to be perfect even if it has only meh budget.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:26 03/12/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Maybe they didn't notice anything at first and replayed that part look for a glimpse of pantsu or something.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:40 02/12/2014 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Eh it looks fine to me. For a TV broadcast anyway, it would probably be fixed on the disc release.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:46 03/12/2014 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Yeah, every show that's got average budget is like this every now and then. Sides it's less than a second for this frame, I'm surprised anyone even noticed.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:29 03/12/2014 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    You mean you DON'T see everything at a tenth of standard time speed?

    What a weirdo.

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    Comment by YotaruVegeta
    00:30 24/12/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Besides that one scene, where's the "disaster" of animation? The rest of the show looks consistent to me. if you have an eagle eye on every little detail, then you'll see this, but in the moment, they hope you don't. Sometimes the cut corners. As long as its not a tremendous dip in quality, let it go.

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    Comment by Ario
    12:07 10/12/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Lol dat QUALITY FACE

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:53 03/12/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    This reminds me, I need to go to the market and pick up some high-quality cabbage.

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:35 03/12/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    This. is. a disaster.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:42 03/12/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    The sign when they start showing more ero is when you know that a show is going downhill and the animation is going to look worse than a highschool project.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:31 04/12/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Much better than american animation

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:18 02/12/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    This what happens when animation studios outsource part of their animation to other countries especially to Vietnam. ( I saw quite a few Vietnamese names on end credits)

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    Comment by squeezer
    23:26 02/12/2014 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    I usually don't watch the credits. I remember seeing Vietnamese names in a really well drawn show.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:48 02/12/2014 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    well... even good anime in bluray have some vietnam names in the credit... so what your point ?

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:11 03/12/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    This is what happens when you understand that this was a transition frame. It happens when you're not working on high budget - most anime is like this. To notice this you have to have been scrutinizing the show deliberately for flaws. (i.e. you hate it and just want to find something to throw at it, many shows this season have animation like this at times, why single this one out? That's what I have to wonder. Does the person hate harem? Or the studio in question?) Unless you normally watch your shows at 50% speed (in which case its high time for you to buy a new computer) you should find something better to do with your life than criticize a 0.25 second frame.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:50 04/12/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    No, this is Patrick.

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    Comment by Onanymouse
    01:32 03/12/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Outsourcing is a symptom, not the problem. Overseas studios can only be as good as their contract is worth, including Vietnamese ones.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:24 02/12/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    When isn't sailor moon crystal criticized same way like this. I mean I see sub par scenes every 30 secs on that show from stick legs to out of proportion size creepy eyes! Toei animation has the worse quality control I ever known.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:43 02/12/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Not that bad TBH. My only problem with this animu is how trivial the Casus belli are.

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    Comment by Akamatsu
    12:26 02/12/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Count this among the reasons I dropped this show.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:40 02/12/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'm sticking with it until the painful end! I was masochistic enough to watch Rail Wars!

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:54 02/12/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    One of the few anime this season where mc is not effeminate, changed sex or totally Gay ..
    Also do not live behind the female characters squealing satellizaaaa ..... and being a complete useless ..

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:56 02/12/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    I watched a total 15 minutes worth of Rail Wars over the 12 episodes & I still think that was too much . . .

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:39 02/12/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Some ppl have too much time in there hands....

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    Comment by Anonymous
    19:40 02/12/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'm not sure if those fingers are singers.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:17 02/12/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Nah, their hands are too busy fapping.

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    Comment by severance
    12:45 02/12/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    The animation in question kinda looks like Ukiyo-e.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:06 02/12/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Dats narutoxpain animation in firts gif XDXDXD

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:11 02/12/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    "When gravity fails"

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:52 02/12/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Still wonderful pieces of ass with no ass boobs fantastic assed women who dont exsist today.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:38 02/12/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Was too busy looking at her legs to notice her face...

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:13 02/12/2014 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Didn't notice as well. Drawing is not really important in those kind of motion frames

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    Comment by squeezer

    I dropped the show mainly because story is really bad. Why would a POW be treated like they are going on vacation? The art wasn't the reason.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:13 02/12/2014 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Because she wanted him as a servant dumbarse.

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    Comment by squeezer
    23:04 02/12/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    She also bathe in the nude in front of her captives in prison camp if the prisoner luckily roam in the right direction? And to see 'my lord' all you have to do is easily get capture.

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    Comment by YotaruVegeta
    00:43 24/12/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    He's not really a prisoner of war in the traditional sense. His whole country has been taken over by this War Maiden. This is fantasy land, not WWII. Relax.

    Anyway, how does that one fact make the whole anime bad?

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:58 02/12/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    You have no idea how noble lord hostages are treated in the medieval period, do you? And there's also the part where they're interested in recruiting him.

    But... the animation is horrible.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:17 03/12/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Animation is okay - other shows this season have similar frames every now and then. The show doesn't have the budget of say, Fate Stay UBW, you cannot expect a show that doesn't have that kind of budget to have a few episodes where they rely on transition frames to animate dynamic movement. I shouldn't be explaining this, if you have even passing knowledge of animation you should know what I'm talking about. Make an informed opinion, right now you're just talking shit because it's "cool". It lasted what? A quarter of a second? Unless your computer is a single core relic from the late 90's you have no excuse for watching shows at that speed. That gif is deliberately slow to emphasise the flaw, if you watched the show you would know that's not how long this scene was.

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    Comment by squeezer
    23:09 02/12/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    They weren't interested in recruiting his servant, but the servant was sent to the same prison camp?

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:45 02/12/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    In some cases, yes, the prisoners are treated that way.

    But not the exact way they are treated in this anime. They are potential allies, yes, but current enemies.

    Here it's all just an excuse.

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    Comment by squeezer
    23:20 02/12/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    You mean bathing nude in front of your captives is normal?

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:51 03/12/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    @Anon 20:26

    Yes, you got it right. They are “expected”. However, if you think that what was “expected” always happened and nobody ever acted otherwise, then you are being so stupid that you might as well stop.

    Also, the exact issue isn't with whether it's “always” or “sometimes”. The exact issue is with how what is shown in this anime is different than what is “expected”. Treating your prisoners like guests? Sure, expected. Acting as if you were buddies and you were trying to become a member of their harem for whatever inexplicable reason? Dude, just no.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:26 02/12/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    No. It's not SOME cases.

    Noble captors were expected to treat their noble captives in a way fit of their station, thus the captives are treated like a guest - freedom to roam around the captor's hold, a proper room, meals fit for a noble..., while waiting for the ransom to be paid.

    Captives were expected to pay their ransom within the agreed upon time frame and not attempt to escape.

    It's all some nobility honor crap thing for their noble societies. Either side failing that will be 'shaming' themselves in their circle.

    If there's anything about this that's portrayed wrongly in the anime, it's the princess' knights initially trying to shame the hero at the beginning. After all, his not some knight, his a lord. A lord's a lord, even if it's an enemy during war time. But I guess they covered that with the princess thinking of executing them after she found out.

    Comment by Anonymous

    just read the light novel. the anime is a disaster. only fanservice, bad voice acting and bad action scenes.
    the light novel goes very in depth in the war strategies, battle tactics, politics and other really interesting stuff.
    it feels like i'm watching a summary of a summary.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:13 03/12/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    What? The anime is rushed sure, but bad voice acting? The action scenes were satisfactory, not awesome, but I found nothing wrong with the voice acting man.

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    Comment by YotaruVegeta
    00:36 24/12/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    It's a book. Books can always go into more depth. Books don't have to worry about budget Also, the voice acting is just fine. I don't know what you're talking about.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Seriously, the story IS really bad & is in no way related to RL events. I think the overall shitty story & animation is more of an issue here rather than how they're depicting the treatment of a POW.

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    Comment by YotaruVegeta
    00:34 24/12/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Wh- what are you talking about The animation isn't shitty, and the story is alright. Why are you still watching it?

    Comment by Anonymous

    I blame the shit male MCs for the quality drop.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:56 03/12/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Is a blasphemy to call shit, compare this mc with 90% of last year ..
    Weak, gay, switching bodies with girls, not to mention the NTR ..
    The word harem lost until its meaning .. most is just a guy in the middle of a girl group ... doing some clowning.
    They managed to screw up tenchi with this stupid season ...

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:53 02/12/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    . . . But the shitty drawn character is female.

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