SNK: “Square Enix = Criminals”

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Police raids on Square Enix have been followed up by furious excoriation by SNK Playmore, condemning them for “major criminality,” “completely insincere conduct,” and “pernicious conduct” by way of explanation – and confirming that the company is so adamant that certain Square Enix executives should be arrested that it has targeted them individually with criminal charges.

With distribution of Square Enix published manga Highscore Girl now largely suspended over the apparently unauthorised inclusion of SNK characters and police having raided their offices in search of evidence, SNK Playmore has let rip on them in a series of published statements.

The first SNK ever even heard of the matter was when the anime adaptation was confirmed and the studio responsible approached SNK themselves directly in order to confirm the rights last summer, they say.

They set about rectifying matters immediately, but got nowhere and eventually sought to have charges filed against Square Enix in May of 2014.

Having made the incredibly modest demand that Square universally cease all of their “highly illegal” publication and distribution of Highscore Girl, they were repeatedly ignored:

“There was not a shred of sincere conduct from them.

There is no way we could possibly countenance this kind of pernicious conduct from a major listed company, who should themselves be very much concerned with protecting copyrights and taking a firm stance against this sort of activity.

Our firm will take similarly severe measures to protect our games and characters from infringing usage in future.”

The “unavoidable” criminal charges of copyright violation were in fact filed against not only Square Enix the company, but also individual members of their publishing arm, raising the rare prospect of their employees actually being arrested.


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    Avatar of Palmtop Twintails
    Comment by Palmtop Twintails
    17:06 08/08/2014 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Does SNK even make any relevant games these days?

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:31 08/08/2014 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    That's why they're so adamant with those charges. SNK hasn't made any thing worth it these days and thus they are trying to "protect" the only thing that they manage to still milk money from, namely all their old IPs and characters associated with them... They wouldn't be able to make a cent nowadays otherwise.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:38 08/08/2014 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    of course they haven't made anything worth buying; they're a shell company, that recycles KOF

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:36 09/08/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Better than Crapcom. They go a step further than recycling and literally regurgitate the exact same crap back out at us for decades to come.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:36 09/08/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    >better
    >lolno, SnK's always been shit.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:10 08/08/2014 # ! Good (+0.8)

    Could this actually be cooperation behind the scene setup by both SE and SNK to promote their products through scandal?

    Avatar of Erranty
    Comment by Erranty
    20:24 08/08/2014 # ! Good (+0.6)

    Considering how badly SquareEnix needs it, yes.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:36 08/08/2014 # ! Good (+0.8)

    More like considering how badly both companies need it. SNK raped KOF, as did SE rape FF.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:45 09/08/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    whatever they come out with I'm pirating, fuck'em.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:41 09/08/2014 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    SNK died. Koreans bought the name and ip. It should be called SNK CHONMORE now.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:49 09/08/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    ...that explains the whole lawsuit. Koreans hate japanese, and vice versa. This is a perfect way to stir some shit while undercover.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:08 15/08/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Nope..still Japanese. SNK died in 2001 then purchased by Aruze. Then Kawasaki's new company "playmore", purchased back SNK with success, thus titles SNK Playmore. Read the wiki.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:55 08/08/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well..currently they are busy with mobile game with mainly Metal Slug Defense and Rhythm of Fighter and so far the fan there enjoy it(Based their offical facebook) and to me the game is not bad.
    Beside...based on the news been posted,Square Enix has been using SNK stuff without their consent and will make some extra profit from the homage especially with the anime been planned...

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:30 09/08/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    ROFL as if mobile games are real games.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:39 08/08/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    does square have any games left that they havn't destroyed yet?

    i think both square and snk are both failure companies, probably for different reasons, but the failure is still the same..

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:55 08/08/2014 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Bravely Default?

    Comment by Anonymous

    What is that about, mortgages?

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:37 09/08/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    I wouldn't mind if both companies grief each other silly. SNK raped KOF, as did SE rape FF.

    bravely default!

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    Comment by Erranty

    Kingdom Hearts? I dunno, I haven't played BBS or DDD yet.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:14 09/08/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Eidos blows. The only good game they've made since SE acquired them is Human Revolution. The rest of their shit just sucks. Especially the latest thief and hit man games.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:24 09/08/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Though I'm not much of a fan of it Kingdom Hearts has a loyal following.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:29 08/08/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    While the main studio of SE doesn't produce that good stuff these days, Eidos produces some good and some moderate games still

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:36 09/08/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Kingdom Hearts is still going strong because the one behind the development of the games of that series is a perfectionist from what I hear.

    The next games in line will be KH3 and FF15 which is also directed by the same guy I think

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:46 08/08/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Does Square Enix?

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:36 09/08/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    I sign this, but the same goes for SE: Does Square Enix even make any relevant games these days?

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:09 09/08/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Last I saw SE is still making money. Shiranui is getting old and flappy. No one wants to fuck a dust bowl

    Avatar of Chen-04
    Comment by Chen-04
    17:20 08/08/2014 # ! Quality (+0.9)

    SNK go home.

    It's not like Squeenix distributed ROMs with the manga or something, so they should STFU and GTFO. It's not illegal to reference pop culture. At least it shouldn't be.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:20 09/08/2014 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    It shouldn't be, but some people get really anal about it. Disney, for example, is very protective of its IPs and characters (such as Mickey Mouse).

    Anyway, in Japan, it is normal for references to have slight differences (ie. the small penis defense). Sony becomes Pony, Nintendo becomes Nintenbo, etc.

    Genshiken had a similar premise to this manga (used KOF95, etc), but as far as I know, the original manga changed names and such.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:18 09/08/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    That's because Japan has no likeness copyright laws, but does have trademark laws in place. So the character designs aren't patented down, but the names are. BTW This is why you see tons & tons of recycled character designs between titles too.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Blind fanboys these day,pls read the article you dipshit

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    Comment by Daniel Park
    09:53 09/08/2014 # ! Neutral (-0.2)

    Its not a reference its flat out theft. SNK is totally within their rights here.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:57 10/08/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    You need to understand something, game magazines reference to characters all the time and most of them don't have to pay any sort of royalties because it isn't illegal to mention something by name even when you profit off that. It would the equivalent of Capcom suing Akira Toriyama for having one of his characters say "I love the megaman games." If anything SNK should thanking Square Enix for referencing to their games and drawing attention to them.

    It would would be outright theft if the storyline was primarily focused around SNK copyrighted characters but since it is a video game and the characters play said games then it isn't so much an issue of copyright violation because they are referencing them more then making it about them. However lets say they have some sort of grounds for copyright infringement, various copyright laws state that to make a parody of something even if you profit from it is not illegal.

    This is a frivolous lawsuit. I don't like Square Enix, but in this situation, their "parody" romance novel is protected under copyright law.

    Avatar of Chen-04
    Comment by Chen-04
    17:36 09/08/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yeah.. because talking about characters totally is stealing them.

    Avatar of Chen-04
    Comment by Chen-04
    07:53 11/08/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'm pretty sure they made money on their original story.. not by referencing pop culture.

    Comment by Anonymous

    If they made money from using these SNK characters, however slight, and SNK didn't get a kickback from it then that's going to be a problem. It's an issue of when there's money involved that's when people care. In this case it's money which SNK feels it's entitled to.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Chen read the article carefuly SE is at fault, blind fanboys these days

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    Comment by Chen-04
    07:56 11/08/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    How? Quoting the part you think might help your argument could help your baseless claims out.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:24 08/08/2014 # ! Drivel (-1.0)

    they went not referencing, they were plagiarizing.
    square did something stupid, and now they get a penalty for their actions.

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    Comment by Erranty
    20:28 08/08/2014 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Plagiarizing would be using the characters in a storyline or a game, not referencing them or the game they're from in a manga. That's just free advertising for someone else!

    SNK is really grasping at straws here, but the way Japan's legal extortion system works might actually cause SE some trouble...

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    Comment by Erranty
    16:44 09/08/2014 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    @07:39 If they were actually characters, and had lines, there would be trouble. However merely referencing something isn't illegal in any way unless it's slanderous or libelous.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:52 09/08/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    no no snk was pissed because they (squarenix) put their logo in the manga while they didn't even asked for snk's permission. i've seen tons of snk character references in anime and other manga but they atleast changed minor details or asked snk's permission.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:46 08/08/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Good, SE deserves all the trouble it gets.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:30 09/08/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    The thing is, from what I know you do have to get permission to blatantly use other creators' characters in your creation. Sure, it's free advertisement, but one that uses something without permission.

    And yes, I am aware it is still stupid. But rules are rules.

    Comment by Anonymous

    So if Microsoft put out a comic book with featuring unauthorized Nintendo characters, you think their wouldn't be a law suit?

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:33 08/08/2014 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Right, and I suppose every time a x-brand car is shown in a hollywood movie or television show without express written consent, while still featuring the original branding logos and even in same cases being referenced by name, that's "plagiarization" too, huh? Fucking idiot.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:34 08/08/2014 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    damn, thats a really good analogy. i am totally going to steal that to explain the idea in future haha

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:49 09/08/2014 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    @02:37
    http://images.sankakucomplex.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/high-score-girl-7.png

    >"SPECIAL THANKS"
    >"SNK PLAYMORE CORPORATION All rights reserved."

    Well look at that, don't you look like a FUCKING IDIOT. Do the world a favor and kill yourself already. I'm serious, do it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:28 09/08/2014 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    @21:34
    Imitation is the best form of flattery, so I'm told.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:17 10/08/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    @07:56
    Bullshit. There are tons of instances where in movies & television they do not ask permission to use their products. These days, in those instances, they removed the badges from the products. Ever take notice of missing blue ovals on Ford SUVs, on tv dramas? They're missing because they never asked for permission to use their logo.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:20 09/08/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Doesn't matter if they mentioned who the work was "borrowed" from if that mention didn't come along with a paycheck attached to it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:41 09/08/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    @02:37
    You fucking dumb fuck, the back of every volume gives mention to the works featured in that volume. If was even mentioned in the other article! Damn kid, you are fucking dumb.

    Comment by Anonymous

    >> every time a x-brand car is shown in a hollywood movie or television show without express written consent, while still featuring the original branding logos and even in same cases being referenced by name, that's "plagiarization" too, huh?

    Except of course for the *minor* fact this DOESN'T FUCKING HAPPEN. EVER.

    Hollywood and network television are VERY FUCKING CAREFUL about corporate branding and sponsorship. If you see a vehicle logo or model mentioned by name or shown on screen it's because the manufacturer outright SPONSORED IT by providing the vehicles for the production. Or agreed to license it for money.

    This. DOES. NOT. HAPPEN. PERIOD.

    Squenix done goofed. Somebody either forgot, or more likely since this is Squenix- were arrogant enough to think they didn't *need* to follow the fair-use/parody excuse. And then a parody manga which noone cared about suddenly became big money when someone wanted to turn it into an anime production. Then of course, SNK started to give a shit.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:37 09/08/2014 # ! Drivel (-0.8)

    Check out the "thank yous" on a hollywood movie, betcha they mention the vehicle manufacturer at least, do you think they would chance it and not mention them, now whos the fucking idiot???

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:53 08/08/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Oh please. It wasn't the smartest thing but the whole lawsuit is just ridiculous. It's nothing but a desperate money grab by people who have nothing else. They drew some street fighter characters. They also drew Streets of Rage, Raiden, Jason vorhees, original Zelda and Arthur. You don't see those companies crying over parody.

    They Had Cops Raid And Search Their Offices Because They Drew Pictures! What exactly did they hope to find? It's nothing but a case of 'scream as loud as you can until someone takes you seriously.'

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:28 09/08/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yes, the entire process is extremely contemptible, but it's a little hard to deny that SE should have known better. Their supposed to know stuff like this, it's basic business law.

    Comment by Anonymous

    snk: remove our shit from your manga
    se: /ignore
    snk: FU i sue you bitch!
    courts: se you have snk shit in your manga & you didnt remove it like the owner of the shit wanted.. guilty!
    (all of you guys cry its not plagiarism)

    Comment by Anonymous

    SNK: hey SE remove our shit from your manga!~
    SE: /ignore
    SNK: FU! i sue you bitch! your using our shit and your not legally allowed!
    courts: i see SE did not remove SNK shit from the manga like SNK requested. therefore they are using someones shit without permission! that sounds like plagiarism!!~... guilty!
    (and all you posters are crying its not plagiarism and demote the OP to a -1.0)

    satire much?.. yesssss






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