The finding that over half of Japanese young men quizzed about their favourite Gundams had never even heard of Gundam has thrown the popularity of these cultural titans amongst the younger generations into question – with plenty reluctant believe it can be possible.
A Japanese magazine hoping to hack together a ranking celebrating the 35th anniversary of Gundam based on actual data undertook a survey of young men (women not even being worthy of even being asked when it comes to mecha matters it would seem) with the assistance of a market research firm.
They quizzed 200 young men in their twenties on such pressing matters as “what is your favourite mobile suit?” and “which mobile suit would you most like to pilot?”
This effort rapidly ran into a rather fundamental problem (aside from the pathetic sample size) – they were shocked to discover that 51% of respondents had never even heard of Gundam to start with.
Some of the results they did gather by way of an omake – the favourite mobile suits from those who had actually encountered the original series:
1. Gundam
2. Char’s MS-06 Zaku II
3. Char’s MS-14 Gelgoog
4. ZEONG
5. DOM
This finding was greeted with disbelief by the online masses, although whether this can be blamed on the woeful ignorance of the younger generations with respect to the all-important world of fictional giant robots or their own insular outlook is another matter:
“They must have heard of it.”
“There are new shows every few years so it is amazing they haven’t heard of it.”
“Next it will be kids not knowing Macross, and after that Eva!”
“Why do they have to know about Gundam again?”
“They know, they are just ashamed to admit it.”
“Come on, even the Chinese know their Gundams!”
“I’m 38 but I’m a bit troubled by this belief that you are some kind of philistine traitor if you don’t know about Gundam.”
“We should be amazed 49% know about it.”
“I think it is a lot. They asked commoners and not anime fans so amongst them there are sure to be lots who never watch TV or the like at all.”
“Why is it so shocking that someone doesn’t know?”
“Macross embraced moe and is even now popular with the young. Why did it come to this…”
“AGE…”
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6 years ago sankaku was better at doing clickbaits
6 years ago sankom still featured somewhat relevant news. Still, I like this place best because there ain't raging mods banning you over expressing your opinion like most other places I've been to.
indeed i too love that, you can get into some lovely dogfights here, and nobody cries.
except the Chinese,though.
I banged ur mommy. u jelly?
very true. It's a miracle they haven't banned me yet.
pretty much why this place is a hotbed for assholes and scum. its probably just not as bad as 2ch or youtube because its nowhere near as popular, thankfully.
Really? My stuff gets deleted half the time, and it's not like I'm filling it with inane drivel.
But I am anonymous. That's probably the reason.
No one will ever see this, I bet.
What? Comments are disappearing only temporarily for technical reasons?
Damn, there goes my persecution complex.
Probably just lost in limbo. That happens sometimes. Check again a couple of days or a week later and your comment will be there alright.
One time i also been in rage but it appears that comments just got lost for like half hour. Not going tell you how hard i get trolled after that.
it's either delete on purpose of by fail, sometimes i notice 4 comments on new post, then bam, it's all gone as if it's never been there. Also this moderation is eternal.
I don't believe I've seen any comments deleted on here before. I admit I've trolled because it seems most other people do too.
@Chen-04
"somewhat relevant news"
yeah like getting butt hurt about K-on and latter admit that you like his shity hentai
you hypocrite jerk
@3:47
-0.4 means 2 people downvoted you. Chen is only one guy.
13:44 30/06/2014 (-0.2)<---WTF??
i see what you did there downvoter
@03:50
or probably he's got more than one computer to beging with
downvote me won't save you sucker
"Bad (-0.4)"
"Bad (-0.2)"
@Chen-04
why are you such a pussy full of sand?
that is so weak and pathetic not to mention the fact that you have and arrogant attitude
K-on wanker fan boy
erm yeah, back then sankaku was doing clickbaits with seiyuu's pussy.
"They quizzed 200 young men in their twenties on such pressing matters as “what is your favourite mobile suit?”"
200 respondents is statistically 'extremely' small compared to large proportion of targeted Japanese demographics.
Should take around five to ten-fold to ensure their survey is statistically significant and reputable. One more thing - are they picked the sample in truly random manner?
In the end - if your survey sample is too small, then your argument is invalid.
You kidding me? Dude at their 20s not knowing about gundam? I am 2x and everyone around me from different part of the world knows about Gundam....well except one or 2 dude but 51%? Gundam Seed, 00, unicorn and AGE or even the buildfighter... they should have heard at least one of them. I am not even asking them to identify RX-78 or zaku II. If this is true, I believe more people don't know about Obama than Gundam and I am not even joking.
100% if you ask ppl from gundam store
I know right, what the hell man? I knew about Gundam when I was five and that was 15 years ago.
200 isn't the big problem, it's how those 200 got picked. Sample size is just a way to increase the probability of having a sample that accurately represents the population in regard to the property that is to be observed.
When you take most of those 200 from a shopping mall at 10AM for example, you're probably not gonna have a sample that represents the male population of all of Japan.
Don't know what Gundam is?
This is a good sign.
Now if only they could do same with Naruto.
Wow, that name takes me back. Are there still Naruto-Fans out there?
Never ceases to amaze me at how I laugh everytime someone calls Gundam Seed Destiny a good show.
The problem is the world's technological growth has halted. When Gundam was big back in the day, society was constantly making advances in technological marvels we were trying to make it to space, stuff at that level captivated us. Now technology advances seem to have come to a halt and no one has any interest in pursuing robotics. I checked on neo gentronyx that guy hasn't posted an update since 2011 and he stopped working on the gundam well before hand. When were trying to better our technology again I'm sure gundam will come back. Might I also remind more factual evidence is we were also sci fi heavy Cowboy Bebop, Tenchi Muyo, Outlaw Star, Ghost in the shell, Evangelion they were all big when technology advancements were booming.
With current media coverage obsessing over major crimes and the lives of famous people it's no wonder society's in decline.
Our technological advancements are becoming consumer products instead of reaching for new achievements in human history.
We haven't put a colony on the moon, we're not expecting a manned mission to Mars till 2026 with a more realistic projection of 2040.
We're continuously becoming overpopulated and underpaid. Being told we need things we can't afford. And nothing's changing in a way to make any of this easier, only worse.
It's no wonder we're forgetting about wonderful idea, we're too grounded and worried about ourselves making it to the next meal to think about it.
This
It seems much of the world has forgotten how to dream.
Dreaming is badthought, citizen. Dreaming means wanting things better which means things not being equal which is raciss and sexiss and evil. You don't want to be evil, do you citizen? Stop dreaming and be equal like all the rest.
Or else.
Technology is still pressing ahead, rather quickly at that. There is however a level of marketing towards the masses with any of it that dumbs it all down(new phone features are an easy example). Still hoping for fusion power before 2030.
Seriously? Think about your computer. Compare a $400 crappy computer in Walmart and some $2000+ computer just 10 years ago. How about your tablets, smartphones.. yes PDA existed back in 10 yrs ago... how about 3D printers and scanners that everyone can purchase? How about the monitors that can only be 5mm or less thickness for desktop computer and LCDs modules that only 2mm or less thickness and run in color with very high resolution and ppi? I personally make robots at home but the thing is that people dont make giant ass robot not because we cannot, it is because it makes no sense to make one while one single round from a tank can blow up an entire building. In fact, our technology in term of robotics has advanced beyond what the original gundam author had predicted... Google boston dynamic Petman and Big dog. They are so smart that you dont need a person to control them.
no, we cant build robots the size of gundams and have them move the way they do in the shows, it isnt physically possible. we simply dont have a material for the job that can handle it, keeping the robot light enough while remaining strong enough. steel doesnt even come close to the job. to have a giant robot that can jump above its knees, we need to invent a new material. we DO have some new materials coming along quite well that blow steel out of the water, so that problem might go away pretty soon (also allowing us to make space elevators because hell yeah). the next problem is power. something that big that needs to move that fast, carry additional weight for weapons, requires an enormous amount of power. it needs a nuclear reactor installed on it, its the only way to get enough power, a diesel engine aint gonna cut it, but the problem with nuclear is we need to make it tiny to fit inside the machine. a traditional light water reactor sure isnt going to do the job. we get a lot closer with reactors using molten salt (thorium reactors), which can be much smaller as they are much more stable, so i dont know on that one. you couldnt really call the reactor small, but maybe? i would assume it would need to be scaled down even further, but that is assumption not fact. need an engineer to answer that question i suppose
It's not that technical growth has halted, it's just at our fingertips. We don't have to dream about it anymore. It's there.
(Also, most of us realized that giant robots are stupid.)
Giant Robots are awesome.
It's just the ridiculousness that's getting more and more exaggerated because you want to trump the previous generation.
eg in Gundam00 it seems like they're outputting new models every two weeks. a few dozen special machines with different abilities made in a year.
A complex machine takes years to develop then building a prototype takes almost another year. Then testing will probably take a year until all bugs are ironed out and safety can be guaranteed. In the meantime mass production lines are prepared, etc.
Another thing: One Mobile suit wielding a weapon that decimates a whole fleet is way too unrealistic. Weapon output comes with the sheer size of the energy container, which makes it impossible for one single unit to carry.
Just make a fucking flying machine with a gun. Why does it need to be shaped like a human?
so an atomic bomb anime would be cooler, because it's practical?
Problem with giant robots
they're either unrealistic. And there are cooler unrealistic things to make an anime about.
or they're just plain unpractical and easily defeated by weapons that are more practical. (That is if the show is unrealistical enough to allow them to support their own goddamn weight on two feets.)
"(Also, most of us realized that giant robots are stupid.)"
"And there are cooler unrealistic things to make an anime about."
Jesus H Christ, get some taste.
Its not really unrealistic when they have the firepower and mobility they do.
@Octopi
so that include that rape & murder in anime would be cooler,because it's practical also?
Gundam a shit.
Gundammit Jim,you need a doctor not a mechanic!
the average otaku completely forgets within a year or so any given series, judging by most polls i see on this site.
It's because anime do not age well. The older they are the more they suck ass. Try to disprove my by providing an Anime from before 1978 that is better than whatever you liked from 2012-2014 the most. (If you can't even prove to yourself that older anime are better you shouldn't wonder why otaku forget about old stuff.)
oh fuck you meant before 1978, not between 1978 and now, my apologies. still there are some cool series from that era. might look less polished but they are very entertaining.
Sure, my point is only that they all got worse than they were when they were new and are now less enjoyable than most new anime that catch your interest.
Ashita no Joe starts out cool, but then it decides to be about boxing, which I found incredibly boring. (Why the fuck would Joe lose sight of his goal to make money over a stupid boxing match? And then he gets all depressed about SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER killing his rival. Instead of feeling lucky that the bastard is gone.)
chen... seriously, learn to speak for yourself and only for yourself. how can anyone take you seriously when you say "ashita no joe is boring because boxing" and anyone knows that all you need added to an anime to make it good in your eyes is a naked loli? of course you like newer anime better than old ones. next you'll say that any selena gomez movie is a masterpiece next to any old black and white film.
I see what you did there, I would've provided Lady Oscar a.k.a The Rose of Versailles but seeing as that aired 1979 I suppose that's not an option (although I believe Ashita no Joe would make a fine example it's somewhat unique in that). I believe there are alot of great classics that shouldn't be overlooked (although they always are), such as Space adventure Cobra and Touch. Point taken though, a staggering percent of anime age very poorly and are replaced by new very similar shows and go on to sell all the same.
>anime do not age well
Unless they're made by AIC, Madhouse or Ghibli, then chances of aging well go up significantly, especially for movies.
Masami Obari almost destroyed AIC,you have to know that.
masami obari makes everything better
ghost in the shell is still an awesome anime, but technically, and in plot. Ninja Scroll is also still awesome. Gundam Z it's so damn amazing i couldn't believe it was done so many years ago.
so I do know a bunch of titles that are indeed better than today's titles.
I don't think thats always true
i'd take any older mecha anime over todays because of the shitty out of place CGI they use.
except for gundam, at least they stick to hand drawn.
Gintama mother fucker!
Stereotype statement used for more than a decade.
People've gotta get over this already.