Tokyo: “Glorifying Incest” = “Not Condemning It”

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Tokyo has clarified its decision to ban Imouto Paradise for “improperly glorifying incest” – revealing that it now uniquely defines “glorification” as “not depicting as bad.”

An Asahi interview with Tokyo’s youth protection department’s chief PR flack reveals the city now considers any manga or anime which so much as fails to condemn incest as hardcore pornography.

The interviewer, having just read the manga, concedes it clearly deals with incest but is at a loss as to how it could be considered to be “improperly glorifying incest”:

What part of the title improperly glorifies it?

It’s the story as a whole. It’s a mistake to think we are just looking at a single part. Simply put, we are looking at how the story depicts incest, how the main characters think of it, and the like.

“Glorifying” in this case is “thinking it is not bad,” isn’t it?

What.

This sort of thing is unacceptable, socially. In terms of societal morals. The committee’s judgment on this manga looked at whether the story showed incest as a bad thing.

Not just this manga, but on TV there are a lot of “imouto-mono” works about, and they don’t think that is good. “What kind of frightening influence might a story like this have on a schoolboy with an imouto?” is what concerns them.

So the committee decided that “glorifying” something is now equivalent to “not depicting it as bad”?

Exactly. “Does the work depict sexual themes in a manner which society approves of” – it’s right there in section 15, clause 2, item 2.

Your pamphlets seem to say simple depictions of incest are not banned, only its “improper glorification” – I would think this meant something like “incest is so much better than regular sex guys!”?

Well, it’s a matter of interpretation. Is that what you think?

I think if you look in a Japanese dictionary you would be surprised to find a definition of “glorify” as “not depict as bad.”

That’s not our judgment then.


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    Comment by Anonymous
    14:00 31/05/2014 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    So that's why Ichihara books were never banned, they properly glorify rape, properly glorify abduction, properly glorify human traffic, properly glorify coerced prostitution, properly glorify fascism...

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:47 01/06/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    You its fantasy just like religion so why ban it. Best to let people get it out of their system than keep it in. At the end of the day your Utopia is not real and people will be people.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:07 20/06/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    It is fantasy to say religion is a fantasy. Wishful thinking on your part.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:12 20/06/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    dude, he was being sarcastic

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    Comment by John Hayabusa
    17:49 31/05/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    I really hope that WIXOSS does not get banned for its incest. Last episode was a wincest.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:23 01/06/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well it's technically NOT incest since it's Hayano with a Yuzuki body.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:51 01/06/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    I have to wonder, why are there so many of these lately? Are they trying to politicize a movement?

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:17 28/06/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    forbidden=hot?? So i'm sure you think fucking your mom is probably hot huh?? Fans of this incest/rape shit are just disgusting. Most can't even get laid in real life. The Japs have a disgusting thing going on with this kind of crap

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:10 02/06/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Nah, it's because it's forbidden.
    Forbidden = hot.

    It wouldn't matter if it were incest or something entirely different. It's a trend just the same as the trend that went on where there was a shitload of stuff about dating your teacher. "forbidden" romances are usually more interesting and sexy than normal romances. It's not like everyone who enjoys stories about imouto romance would date their sister, it's not the incest that makes it hot, it's the forbidden aspect to it. The abundance is due to the fact that stories like Oreimo sold so well.

    It seems to be dying off now finally.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:00 03/06/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    WIXOSS shows incest as a very bad thing, so it's ok. I mean, nothing is ok. Fuck Ishihara.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:43 31/05/2014 # ! Drivel (-1.0)

    disgusting Johncest

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:30 31/05/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    大日本帝国万歳!
    アジアの若い娘を帝國軍の性奴隷にするぞ。

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:12 01/06/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    何を言っている。どういう事、ていうか、関係じゃないだろう。

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:32 31/05/2014 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Instead of glorifying incest, Tokyo will now glorify fascism.

    Comment by Anonymous
    Comment by Anonymous
    14:11 31/05/2014 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    You're right, they've been doing that ever since they started censoring porn.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:32 31/05/2014 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Sieg hail comrades. That Hitler Mein Kampf manga was tokyo approved.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:26 01/06/2014 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Hey, at least they stand by their allies.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:43 31/05/2014 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    guise, it's not Incest. It's WINcest ! Sorry for being such a grammar nazi on an internet message board n' all, but people have got to learn to spell it right !

    Comment by Anonymous

    Try to glorify Western Bias lol

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    Comment by NakkiNyan
    12:23 31/05/2014 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    From the same country that has staged chikan and other rape porn. Groups like these are just being stupid.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:33 31/05/2014 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    gang rape = legit form of group bonding for Japanese men, one of the big mayors commented on it before, in defense of baseball teams gangraping a girl.

    consensual incest = unspeakable abomination

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:54 01/06/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Illusions Japan: RapeLay

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:00 01/06/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Wasn't rapelay banned? WTF are you talking about?

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:17 01/06/2014 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Rapelay isn't banned, it's just that Illusion has distanced itself from the title (shitty gameplay being one of the reasons and bewilderment that hairy foreigners can actually buy it being the other).

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    Comment by Mitchell
    16:07 01/06/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Every-time someone says that "hairy foreigners" I laugh. Like your culture and race doesn't have hair? or is it cause your max height is 5`5 and anyone taller must be hairy. Thanks for the laugh.

    I really don't see a point in banning anything anymore. You can get everything on the net now. Do they conduct ISP tracking legally over there?

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:02 01/06/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    They only bans animation just because they can and it's easier that way. It seems that real rape porn (also some real rape cases, real child prostitution etc.) involving REAL people is less important than a virtual girl.

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    Comment by Dark Mage
    15:55 31/05/2014 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Youth protection department?
    I you ask me it sounds like huge waste of taxes that would be better spent elsewhere.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:25 01/06/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Not entirely sure if they even know what's good for themselves anymore...

    Tell them to put it elsewhere and they'll put it back into the same thing with twice the vigor.

    A shame the same can't be said about their relationships with women.
    *dishpan*

    Thank you, goodnight.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:15 31/05/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    It's (Youth protection department) been there for thousands of years. How did Socrates die?

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    Comment by fxc2
    13:39 31/05/2014 # ! Good (+0.7)

    Best interviewer question ever: "What?"

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:55 31/05/2014 # ! Good (+0.8)

    He swallowed the following "the fuck?". The interviwer's japanese after all...

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:21 31/05/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Is there an equivalent to "wtf" in japanese?

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:33 31/05/2014 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Nani sore?
    Or however you spell it

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:47 02/06/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    ksama kono mama san no ama

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:43 31/05/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    17:33's one fucking idiot

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:34 31/05/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    nante kotta
    nantoiu koto da
    ittai dou iu koto da

    etc.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:30 31/05/2014 # ! Good (+0.6)

    It's not "What?". It's "What."

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:28 31/05/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Flat what. When you can't comprehend what the hell someone is smoking.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:38 31/05/2014 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    For a country with such a low birth rate that it's probably rare that anyone even HAS an imouto, they seem to be pretty concerned about making sure those hypothetical imoutos don't get any play, and that's pretending that comic books are somehow going to overcome the overwhelming weight of biology to make someone bang their sister.

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    Comment by msoltyspl
    19:24 31/05/2014 # ! Good (+0.6)

    Common sense doesn't apply to Japan.

    Only mindless, spineless and uncoditional obedience towards:

    - someone elder
    - someone above

    Usually both at the same time. Thus we have some random retarded or a tiny set of retards - usually very old and completely lost in modern world - doing those nonsenses.

    At least in the rest of the world they are sometimes challenged for the sheer idioticy of their ideas. But in Japan ? ...

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:04 01/06/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    I was with you up until that last part. Where in the rest of the world is such idiocy challenged?

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:15 20/06/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    "Only mindless, spineless and uncoditional obedience towards:"

    What a load of BS. Show me a country where laws are not formulated by older people, MPs, congressmen, senators, diet members, etc. Show me a society in the West where CEOs, major shareholders, bosses and the like aren't older. Older age triumphs all until a point where the middle age people oust the very old.

    "- someone elder
    - someone above"

    Actually people who glorify and support this cartoon pedophilia are aiming for that. Older man, usually some stuck up pedo with a thinly trimmed mustache, 'educates' a young girl. If not that then it's a jungle of older teenagers who are just as stupid and possibly just as vile as the old guy wanting to bone the child.

    "Usually both at the same time. Thus we have some random retarded or a tiny set of retards - usually very old and completely lost in modern world - doing those nonsenses."

    The modern world is entirely under the control of these old f-ers. They show you which clothes to buy, which music to listen to, which fast food to eat, etc. Modern world is one big marketing gig. And you're the sucker.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:09 23/09/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    What msoltyspl is trying to say is that in the social standards in Japanese is that you are suppose to be quiet and submissive to your those that out rank you. In this case, a older brother ordering a younger sister to do obscene acts, under that pretext.
    That isn't the case Western cultures, where siblings are seen as equals regardless of age. The brother can't do anything without being o.k.ed by the parents first; as will as the sister can run to the parents for anything.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:35 31/05/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    It's Japan. You'd be surprised. I hear the real problem is shota / mother interaction, with mothers providing increasing sexual rewards to their own sons for improving school grades.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:48 02/06/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    And this is wrong in any way because....?

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:35 31/05/2014 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    They just need to show the protagonist saying "Oh, no, I'm falling for my sister, this is bad!"

    Then continue as if nothing happened.
    Problem solved.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:37 31/05/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    "Warning: do not fuck your own sister. It is a bad thing."

    before every episode lol

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:11 01/06/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    I totally want to see this now at the beginning of every episode of some imouto show "Make sure you watch in a well lit room far enough away from the TV, and don't bone your sister!"

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:49 02/06/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Umm kids...having sex with your sister is bad...mkay...

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:17 01/06/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    "dont try this at home!"

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:41 31/05/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Given that thats 'Oh no, I'm Falling For My Sister, This Is Bad' is roughly what half the titles of these things are anyway, I guess they're safe then.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:28 01/06/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    That's far too short a title for anime these days.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:17 03/06/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    "Lately my sister can't be this cute and is acting unusually strange because she doesn't have too many friends, which no matter how I look at, it is her fault that I'm unpopular because she doesn't like her big brother at all!"

    Comment by Anonymous

    One Day I Suddenly Got a Little Sister with Blonde Twin Tails and I Cant Hold Myself Back Anymore.

    Comment by Anonymous

    "Oh No, I'm Falling For My Sister, This Is So Very, Very, Very Bad For Me And My Little Sister Who Is Quite Young To Be Banged, But I Want To Bang Her So Badly. But It's Bad."






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