AKB48 Election Fraud: 1000 “Used” Votes for $10,000

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The latest general election drama to grip the nation sees an outraged AKB48 begging for a refund of the ¥950,000 he used to buy 1000 vote tickets which had already been used – having appropriately enough been described in the auction as “second-hand.”

The incident began on Yahoo! Auctions with an innocent enough seeming auction of 1000 “second-hand” general election voting tickets (normally bundled with CDs as a way of rigging the music charts) to an AKB48 otaku desperate enough to pay ¥950,000 for them.

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On arrival of the precious voting tickets the buyer was unhappy to find they had all in fact been used:

“They were all used to vote already!”

“After paying for them, when they arrived they were all already used. Even for a second-hand purchase they are not worth ¥950,000 at all. The seller is clearly malicious!”

He apparently intends to take the matter to the police if no restitution is forthcoming.

The seller is having none of it:

“Somebody demanding a refund for second-hand goods they bought like this is too much. I’m reporting your negative rating to Yahoo! as inappropriate.”

Despite all this the seller managed to accumulate over 400 “good” or “very good” ratings over the course of their auctioneering, and the tickets were clearly identified as “second-hand” – and nowhere did the description state they were “unused votes” (or for that matter “already used”).

Yahoo! appears to have suspended the seller anyway, but it is not clear what action they are taking – though popular opinion seems to be in the seller’s favour:

“How I laughed…”

“Well, they were advertised as ‘second-hand’!”

“Buy the CDs at least, idiots.”

“AKB48 fans are such easy marks.”

“This is obvious fraud. Get the police involved!”

“Second-hand means used. What did he expect?”

“You should still be able to use a second-hand item. These could not be used!”

“No way would this result in charges. The seller clearly states they are used.”

“AKB48 otaku never change.”

“Who cares what happens between these otaku maniacs!”

“It’s bizarre to have an election dependent on buying votes anyway.”

“God, the general election is now the NHK’s top story… what has happened to the world.”

“This otaku was asking for it. How did he think he was going to get 1000 tickets for ¥950,000 when they only come with CDs which cost ¥1500 each?”

“You’d think he might have realised something was up right there.”

“Anyone prepared to spend ¥950,000 on something like this is already beyond help.”

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    • Anonymous says:

      I think malicious intent would be difficult to prove. After all, the seller could argue that he thought any prospective buyer would use the second-hand tickets to wallpaper their otaku room, or to create an anti-AKB48 artistic display. Or a ticket castle.

      Obviously I’m not a lawyer, and I’m sure not a Japanese lawyer, but given that there are other theoretical uses for second-hand tickets, I’d bet criminal charges would be difficult to bring.

      • Anonymous says:

        you know that you are really stretching it here. a VOTING ticket that cant be used to VOTE is as useful as an eraser that doesnt erase. it is garbage and you cant fucking sell it for that price (950000 yens). you are leading people to think they are useful tickets when they arent. you want more malicious intent than this?

        • Exactly… If he were selling them for a small fraction of the amount, I could maybe see that argument holding up, but selling them for the majority of the cost of purchasing CDs new would indicate the codes should still be usable. Of course, if the CDs themselves were included, and mentioned in the listing, the buyer would have a much harder case, as they would have still acquired something arguably useful out of their purchase. At least, as useful as AKB48 CDs can be.

  • Anonymous says:

    What could possess someone to buy 1000 CDs of anything? Someone tell me. Why would you want that many? Votes aside, unless its a super cheap game or something of resell value on Ebay, you don’t need more than 1 or 2 copies lol

  • Anonymous says:

    I miss these articles showing how corrupt the idol industry in Japan is…
    Come on Sankaku, mainstream sites only show the good sides of it, almost doing free PR work for them.
    Someone has to talk about the ugly dark sides!

  • Anonymous says:

    For some reason it feels like all this akb-stuff is just a cover-up to distract from something much more controversial.
    But what?

    Is it China-related or an internal political scandal?

    • Anonymous says:

      It’s just a big deal online every year. AKB fans are active and antifans counter this by watching for this kind of news. I’m gonna check out AKB on google trends, see how big they get around may-june

  • Anonymous says:

    This is the same kind of idiot that buys a picture of a Playstation or an xbox box for $500. I don’t really have any sympathy for people like this, that get scammed so easily. Those people really don’t belong on the internet. And make the rest of us look bad.

    The good news, for this chump, is that yahoo auction used actual Japanese banks for payment. So he should have little issue getting his money back, at his bank’s expense.

  • Anonymous says:

    The buyer never stopped to think about why somebody would be selling thousands of “second hand” CDs that people only buy for the sake of voting? Didn’t think to maybe verify with the seller if the votes were used before dropping a million yen?

    I swear, human ignorance and stupidity knows no bounds.

  • “Second-hand” means it have been owned by another owner, it does’t imply they were used per se. The buyer probably thought it would be logical if they was unused, so he bought them. Clearly an idiot though.

  • Anonymous says:

    I’m totally with the buyer here. “Second hand votes” doesn’t imply used because the votes come with a CD, right? If you buy “second hand votes”, is easly understandable that you are buying the card (without the CD) the same way you can buy a code from a person for a DLC.

    If the votes were used, there is obviusly a fraud, or at least was a missleading description since “second hand” isn’t equivalent to “used” in this case. So its worth and licit if he wants to reclaim to the seller.

    That being said, anyone that expends ¥950,000 on this shit is stupid and deserves be scammed every day, but the fact he deserves it doesn’t mean he wasn’t right.

    • Anonymous says:

      Well the seller didn’t Lie about it. He just told the truth about what he was selling. Second Hand Voting Tickets. He used them up, wanted more money, then put up his tickets for auction. If he called them “Used tickets”, I’m sure no one would buy it. If he just sold them as “Tickets”, he’d be in trouble (I think.) since it’s kind of… You know, Mean. He called them Second Hand to let you know that they were owned by someone before, and anyone who uses common sense would probably know that If they sell voting tickets which were previously owned before, they’re used up. Although I got to admit, that is a pretty annoying thing to deal with, if I was the buyer.

      • Anonymous says:

        the seller is clearly making a fraud here cuz “second hand” goods mean something that still can be used. a used voting ticket can not be used again and so has ZERO value (unless the buyer owns a recycling company).

        he selling tickets that have no value for 950000 yens is clearly a gross overvaluation of the product and this led the buyer (a silly one? yes, but still…) to error.

        for example, you cant sell a PC with a broken hard disk (aka one that doesnt work) for the same price as one that works and simply label it as “second hand”. a voting ticket that cant be used to vote is nothing but garbage.

      • Anonymous says:

        No, you can get “second hand” means you are buying something that already had an owner. (Shops and such are not considered “owners” because they distribute the product doesn’t own it, theyr intention is not to keep or use it). But that doesn’t mean he necesarily used it, you can buy for example a pair of shoes someone bought but never used. Those shoes are second hand.

      • Anonymous says:

        Not true; it could also mean simply having had a prior owner.

        The fact that they were being sold at all implies that they had some value to them, as auctioning off what amounts to worthless pieces of paper and accepting such an outrageous price for them implies fraud in and of itself.

      • Anonymous says:

        sec·ond·hand adjective \ˈse-kən(d)-ˈhand\
        : having had a previous owner

        : buying or selling things that have already been owned or used

        : not original : taken from someone who was not directly involved

  • Anonymous says:

    here in america we shoot aol cd’s with guns as a cheap alternative to clay pidgeons (if you can still find aol cd’s).

    maybe we should get the rednecks to buy em all up and go to town. just think of it as recycling.

  • Shiro_Amada says:

    You know, for all that money he could’ve gotten himself a couple of pros, if you know what I mean.

    Or, if he’s really into the juveniles, he could’ve literally BOUGHT (like, for keepers) one of those promiscuous little high school whores who sell their used underwear online.

    That being said, I doubt pussy even is on these people’s minds. They’ve probably strayed so far from “normal”, they don’t even think about sex, but innocent moemoe lavulavu with their waifu. Then he should’ve spent that money on a good shrink.

  • Anonymous says:

    Dude 1: “Selling voting tickets hat someone used to own before.”

    Dude 2: “MEE! I’ll BUY FOR 950k YEN!!!”

    * 5 min later *

    Dude 2: “AW WHAT THE CRAP. THEY’RE USED ALREADY. ICKETS OWNED BY SOMEONE ELSE COULDN’T HAVE POSSIBLE BEEN USED. IM CALLING THE COPS.”

    srsly bro?